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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 23, 2024 20:54:25 GMT
I don't think they get it sandy. Whoosh... It's quite intentional. The Anyone But England lot have to support Hamas. Is there any actual evidence at all that anyone here "supports Hamas". I get that there will be a minority of people at the protests that do, so making comment about some of them seems reasonable. But you constantly aim barbs at posters here but never once present any evidence that they are doing what you are insinuating they are doing. Not sure, to be honest, if that is borne out of dishonesty or delusion, but either way it does not come across as a good debating technique. All The Best |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 23, 2024 21:06:25 GMT
Has anyone seen this video? It points a different picture to what was portrayed by the Right Wing media. The rabid righties on here (of which there are many) will dismiss it because of the presenter, Owen Jones. Those righties should watch and learn If it was all a perfectly innocent walkabout, why did he need a security person, previously of Mossad, with him? Probably for the same reason that the copper didnt think it was safe for him to walk through the protest - the mob would turn on him. So now you admit the cop was right,took some time knew you’d get there eventually  |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 23, 2024 21:27:25 GMT
Probably for the same reason that the copper didnt think it was safe for him to walk through the protest - the mob would turn on him. So now you admit the cop was right,took some time knew you’d get there eventually If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 23, 2024 21:32:30 GMT
So now you admit the cop was right,took some time knew you’d get there eventually If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. Of course it is also the job of the Police to arrest those who deliberately provoke or incite violence as well. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 23, 2024 21:35:31 GMT
If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. Of course it is also the job of the Police to arrest those who deliberately provoke or incite violence as well. All The Best So being openly Jewish incites violence, is that not the point many are making. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 23, 2024 21:41:48 GMT
If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. Of course it is also the job of the Police to arrest those who deliberately provoke or incite violence as well. All The Best When did walking across a road become incitement? Or is it enough to be simply a Jew? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 23, 2024 21:55:40 GMT
Of course it is also the job of the Police to arrest those who deliberately provoke or incite violence as well. All The Best So being openly Jewish incites violence, is that not the point many are making. Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 23, 2024 22:03:44 GMT
So now you admit the cop was right,took some time knew you’d get there eventually If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. No I’m not,you said and I quote And I agreed with you |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 23, 2024 22:13:02 GMT
So being openly Jewish incites violence, is that not the point many are making. Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best I agree the police acted according to their beliefs as to his intent but the upshot explanation was you are openly Jewish and as such may draw violence from person or persons unknown but certainly in the marchers. So if the point was to expose the anti Jewish aspect suspected amongst the marchers the police did that for him by agreeing that there was and he may be in danger from them. The fact that he wanted to openly walk close to them was to expose the anti semitic aspect. Why is that so difficult to understand. If a black man was exposing racism amongst a BNP march the left would be in reverent supporter and would be apoplectic with rage if he had been prevented from walking there by the police. As I said we see the hypocrisy. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2024 22:19:07 GMT
Of course it is also the job of the Police to arrest those who deliberately provoke or incite violence as well. All The Best So being openly Jewish incites violence, is that not the point many are making. It could be the cultural norm for some people. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2024 5:56:19 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2024 6:11:47 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2024 6:22:08 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 24, 2024 6:29:30 GMT
If people commit violence then the job of the Police is to arrest the perpetrators - you are just victim blaming again. No I’m not,you said and I quote And I agreed with you Then the Police should take action against those that commit violence - not the victims. Stop victim blaming. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 24, 2024 6:34:22 GMT
Except the video posted earlier indicates he was doing much more than just being openly Jewish. He was clearly there to deliberately provoke a reaction from the protestors. The Police therefore, clearly had a duty to intervene. All The Best I agree the police acted according to their beliefs as to his intent but the upshot explanation was you are openly Jewish and as such may draw violence from person or persons unknown but certainly in the marchers. So if the point was to expose the anti Jewish aspect suspected amongst the marchers the police did that for him by agreeing that there was and he may be in danger from them. The fact that he wanted to openly walk close to them was to expose the anti semitic aspect. Why is that so difficult to understand. If a black man was exposing racism amongst a BNP march the left would be in reverent supporter and would be apoplectic with rage if he had been prevented from walking there by the police. As I said we see the hypocrisy. Nail hit on head. |
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