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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 17, 2024 19:11:02 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68841141Having missed every one of the past twelve years targets, the Scottish Nationals succumb to reality. The Net Zero by 2045 stays, but the waypoint gets thrown in the sea Most excellent
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Post by jonksy on Apr 19, 2024 15:19:54 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68841141Having missed every one of the past twelve years targets, the Scottish Nationals succumb to reality. The Net Zero by 2045 stays, but the waypoint gets thrown in the sea Most excellent Yet another humiliation for the SNATS and the usual braindead will blame it all on Westminister...It accelerated strait down the shitter..
Yousaf mocked for dropping climate targets – but claiming green plan is ‘accelerated’
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 23, 2024 15:10:43 GMT
If I'm being fair about this, I don't see it as a way to rub Scots Nats noses in it
If anything after recent research I'd be more likely to shake his hand and buy him a beer (hang on he's islamic, make that a glass of vegan squash) to celebrate his joining me on a reality podium
Because everyone else is way behind the UK on this climate shit and Liz Truss's memoir tells you why but no one will accept her view because she's even more odious to the party Infiltrators from Trotskys-R-Us than Enoch Powell
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 23, 2024 17:20:13 GMT
My guess is China will reach net zero first, and they will do it with massive solar arrays in the Gobi desert where it is too inhospitable to live hence land is free. They will also be world leaders in green technology, so they will make a mint out of it as Western governments enforce the technology on people. Of course one of the main advantages to China in doing this is the US won't be able to fuck with their energy supplies. A related reason is to do with petrodollar. Oil has always propped up the value of the dollar since they got that agreement with the Arabs. Mad isn't it, and to think only a few years ago Tory bastards were haranguing China about its lack of green credentials and going on about the UK being a world leader in green technology, so as if the sun shines out of their arses and not the Chinese. For China they are like damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 23, 2024 19:39:40 GMT
My guess is China will reach net zero first, and they will do it with massive solar arrays in the Gobi desert where it is too inhospitable to live hence land is free. They will also be world leaders in green technology, so they will make a mint out of it as Western governments enforce the technology on people. Of course one of the main advantages to China in doing this is the US won't be able to fuck with their energy supplies. A related reason is to do with petrodollar. Oil has always propped up the value of the dollar since they got that agreement with the Arabs. Mad isn't it, and to think only a few years ago Tory bastards were haranguing China about its lack of green credentials and going on about the UK being a world leader in green technology, so as if the sun shines out of their arses and not the Chinese. For China they are like damned if they do and damned if they don't. China are the worst offenders in putting shit into the atmosphere and our oceans Baron....And even you should know there is no such thing as net zero on a living planet.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 23, 2024 20:31:35 GMT
My guess is China will reach net zero first, and they will do it with massive solar arrays in the Gobi desert where it is too inhospitable to live hence land is free. They will also be world leaders in green technology, so they will make a mint out of it as Western governments enforce the technology on people. Of course one of the main advantages to China in doing this is the US won't be able to fuck with their energy supplies. A related reason is to do with petrodollar. Oil has always propped up the value of the dollar since they got that agreement with the Arabs. Mad isn't it, and to think only a few years ago Tory bastards were haranguing China about its lack of green credentials and going on about the UK being a world leader in green technology, so as if the sun shines out of their arses and not the Chinese. For China they are like damned if they do and damned if they don't. I rather suspect they will in fact be the last, and i will be dead long before anything remotely like it arrives anywhere. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 23, 2024 20:42:16 GMT
My guess is China will reach net zero first, and they will do it with massive solar arrays in the Gobi desert where it is too inhospitable to live hence land is free. They will also be world leaders in green technology, so they will make a mint out of it as Western governments enforce the technology on people. Of course one of the main advantages to China in doing this is the US won't be able to fuck with their energy supplies. A related reason is to do with petrodollar. Oil has always propped up the value of the dollar since they got that agreement with the Arabs. Mad isn't it, and to think only a few years ago Tory bastards were haranguing China about its lack of green credentials and going on about the UK being a world leader in green technology, so as if the sun shines out of their arses and not the Chinese. For China they are like damned if they do and damned if they don't. I rather suspect they will in fact be the last, and i will be dead long before anything remotely like it arrives anywhere. Solar will eventually work out cheaper than any other energy source. You get a lot of radiation in the Gobi desert and they are building them on a mega scale. So the reasons are it is cheap, reliable, low maintenance and can't be meddled with by Uncle Sam blowing up pipelines. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 24, 2024 3:24:38 GMT
I rather suspect they will in fact be the last, and i will be dead long before anything remotely like it arrives anywhere. Solar will eventually work out cheaper than any other energy source. You get a lot of radiation in the Gobi desert and they are building them on a mega scale. So the reasons are it is cheap, reliable, low maintenance and can't be meddled with by Uncle Sam blowing up pipelines. You do talk some bollocks BVL.....Instead of blowing up pipelines it's just as easy to blow up cables and sub-stations carrying electricity FFS. If you covered 50% of the globe with solar farms it still wouldn't generate enough power for the reqirements of the globe. And the production of solar panels is still very far from being green.
Workers install solar panels in California. Although solar energy is a clean alternative to fossil fuels, making the panels themselves can have a negative environmental impact.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 24, 2024 10:19:13 GMT
Solar will eventually work out cheaper than any other energy source. You get a lot of radiation in the Gobi desert and they are building them on a mega scale. So the reasons are it is cheap, reliable, low maintenance and can't be meddled with by Uncle Sam blowing up pipelines. You do talk some bollocks BVL.....Instead of blowing up pipelines it's just as easy to blow up cables and sub-stations carrying electricity FFS. If you covered 50% of the globe with solar farms it still wouldn't generate enough power for the reqirements of the globe. And the production of solar panels is still very far from being green.
Workers install solar panels in California. Although solar energy is a clean alternative to fossil fuels, making the panels themselves can have a negative environmental impact.
Everything has an "impact" in dumb bitch reporting. Rather than read that crap, can you tell me what you mean by impact. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 24, 2024 16:14:08 GMT
You do talk some bollocks BVL.....Instead of blowing up pipelines it's just as easy to blow up cables and sub-stations carrying electricity FFS. If you covered 50% of the globe with solar farms it still wouldn't generate enough power for the reqirements of the globe. And the production of solar panels is still very far from being green.
Workers install solar panels in California. Although solar energy is a clean alternative to fossil fuels, making the panels themselves can have a negative environmental impact.
Everything has an "impact" in dumb bitch reporting. Rather than read that crap, can you tell me what you mean by impact. If you can't see the impact that chemicals and litheum have on the planet BVL maybe you should read up on the subject rather than act like a flagpole for the chinese. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 24, 2024 20:47:18 GMT
Everything has an "impact" in dumb bitch reporting. Rather than read that crap, can you tell me what you mean by impact. If you can't see the impact that chemicals and litheum have on the planet BVL maybe you should read up on the subject rather than act like a flagpole for the chinese. You just don't keep up with developments in the East. For a start the bitch about the range is fast fading into history since to give an example, the Huawei M9 just out can do 630km. Also the bitch about cold temperatures is being sorted, and finally the bitch about lithium can be countered with the new sodium batteries. They are in fact a lot cheaper as well so the bitch about price is no longer a valid bitch.
The thing is in my view the Brits are looking pretty stupid if all they can do is moan when the Chinese are rapidly developing the technology. We stand to get left way behind. Mind you our country does not own any major car manufacturer, which is just as well because those ICE production lines will be white elephants. Anyone who has to pay off still for those is going to be at a competitive disadvantage agaisnt those who go straight into EV manufacture. It's a fiercely competitive market and I hear the response of the US plus slave Britain and likely the EU as well is a to go for protectionist measures, which will screw us even further. Without competitive pressure we stand to end up as backwards as the soviet union was when it practised protectionism.
Our best bet to be frank with you is do what Lotus do. They partner with a large mass production firm in China. Lotus have the cool tech and their Chinese partners have excellent manufacturing skills, so they are one of the few examples where production is up. You see once you partner with a respectable Chinese firm you get to sell loads of cars in China. They love the cars. Chinese like the cool British classic designs. Anyway of course some firms can choose not to but I think there is going to be some serious bankruptcies across Europe. NB this was one main reason why they said we should have stayed in the EU, but I can't see a future for the EU car manufacturers, especially if they get protectionist. The UK is free to do a free trade deal with China and get building.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 25, 2024 6:17:57 GMT
If you can't see the impact that chemicals and litheum have on the planet BVL maybe you should read up on the subject rather than act like a flagpole for the chinese. You just don't keep up with developments in the East. For a start the bitch about the range is fast fading into history since to give an example, the Huawei M9 just out can do 630km. Also the bitch about cold temperatures is being sorted, and finally the bitch about lithium can be countered with the new sodium batteries. They are in fact a lot cheaper as well so the bitch about price is no longer a valid bitch.
The thing is in my view the Brits are looking pretty stupid if all they can do is moan when the Chinese are rapidly developing the technology. We stand to get left way behind. Mind you our country does not own any major car manufacturer, which is just as well because those ICE production lines will be white elephants. Anyone who has to pay off still for those is going to be at a competitive disadvantage agaisnt those who go straight into EV manufacture. It's a fiercely competitive market and I hear the response of the US plus slave Britain and likely the EU as well is a to go for protectionist measures, which will screw us even further. Without competitive pressure we stand to end up as backwards as the soviet union was when it practised protectionism.
Our best bet to be frank with you is do what Lotus do. They partner with a large mass production firm in China. Lotus have the cool tech and their Chinese partners have excellent manufacturing skills, so they are one of the few examples where production is up. You see once you partner with a respectable Chinese firm you get to sell loads of cars in China. They love the cars. Chinese like the cool British classic designs. Anyway of course some firms can choose not to but I think there is going to be some serious bankruptcies across Europe. NB this was one main reason why they said we should have stayed in the EU, but I can't see a future for the EU car manufacturers, especially if they get protectionist. The UK is free to do a free trade deal with China and get building.
You have fell into the usual doom goblins trap BVL... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 25, 2024 9:22:02 GMT
You just don't keep up with developments in the East. For a start the bitch about the range is fast fading into history since to give an example, the Huawei M9 just out can do 630km. Also the bitch about cold temperatures is being sorted, and finally the bitch about lithium can be countered with the new sodium batteries. They are in fact a lot cheaper as well so the bitch about price is no longer a valid bitch.
The thing is in my view the Brits are looking pretty stupid if all they can do is moan when the Chinese are rapidly developing the technology. We stand to get left way behind. Mind you our country does not own any major car manufacturer, which is just as well because those ICE production lines will be white elephants. Anyone who has to pay off still for those is going to be at a competitive disadvantage agaisnt those who go straight into EV manufacture. It's a fiercely competitive market and I hear the response of the US plus slave Britain and likely the EU as well is a to go for protectionist measures, which will screw us even further. Without competitive pressure we stand to end up as backwards as the soviet union was when it practised protectionism.
Our best bet to be frank with you is do what Lotus do. They partner with a large mass production firm in China. Lotus have the cool tech and their Chinese partners have excellent manufacturing skills, so they are one of the few examples where production is up. You see once you partner with a respectable Chinese firm you get to sell loads of cars in China. They love the cars. Chinese like the cool British classic designs. Anyway of course some firms can choose not to but I think there is going to be some serious bankruptcies across Europe. NB this was one main reason why they said we should have stayed in the EU, but I can't see a future for the EU car manufacturers, especially if they get protectionist. The UK is free to do a free trade deal with China and get building.
You have fell into the usual doom goblins trap BVL... Try replying with some intelligence. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 26, 2024 20:59:53 GMT
If you can't see the impact that chemicals and litheum have on the planet BVL maybe you should read up on the subject rather than act like a flagpole for the chinese. You just don't keep up with developments in the East. For a start the bitch about the range is fast fading into history since to give an example, the Huawei M9 just out can do 630km. Also the bitch about cold temperatures is being sorted, and finally the bitch about lithium can be countered with the new sodium batteries. They are in fact a lot cheaper as well so the bitch about price is no longer a valid bitch.
The thing is in my view the Brits are looking pretty stupid if all they can do is moan when the Chinese are rapidly developing the technology. We stand to get left way behind. Mind you our country does not own any major car manufacturer, which is just as well because those ICE production lines will be white elephants. Anyone who has to pay off still for those is going to be at a competitive disadvantage agaisnt those who go straight into EV manufacture. It's a fiercely competitive market and I hear the response of the US plus slave Britain and likely the EU as well is a to go for protectionist measures, which will screw us even further. Without competitive pressure we stand to end up as backwards as the soviet union was when it practised protectionism.
Our best bet to be frank with you is do what Lotus do. They partner with a large mass production firm in China. Lotus have the cool tech and their Chinese partners have excellent manufacturing skills, so they are one of the few examples where production is up. You see once you partner with a respectable Chinese firm you get to sell loads of cars in China. They love the cars. Chinese like the cool British classic designs. Anyway of course some firms can choose not to but I think there is going to be some serious bankruptcies across Europe. NB this was one main reason why they said we should have stayed in the EU, but I can't see a future for the EU car manufacturers, especially if they get protectionist. The UK is free to do a free trade deal with China and get building.
I sometimes wonder if you're for real The 'range gripe': the range quotations are obtained by placing a car on a flat track and running it at 28 km/h until the battery goes flat. No hills, no bends aside from the oval track, it's like triang Hornby mimic motorways The 'cold temperature' gripe certainly isn't being sorted And the chinese companies that partner with European firms produce shit with tractor engines. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 26, 2024 21:06:49 GMT
You just don't keep up with developments in the East. For a start the bitch about the range is fast fading into history since to give an example, the Huawei M9 just out can do 630km. Also the bitch about cold temperatures is being sorted, and finally the bitch about lithium can be countered with the new sodium batteries. They are in fact a lot cheaper as well so the bitch about price is no longer a valid bitch.
The thing is in my view the Brits are looking pretty stupid if all they can do is moan when the Chinese are rapidly developing the technology. We stand to get left way behind. Mind you our country does not own any major car manufacturer, which is just as well because those ICE production lines will be white elephants. Anyone who has to pay off still for those is going to be at a competitive disadvantage agaisnt those who go straight into EV manufacture. It's a fiercely competitive market and I hear the response of the US plus slave Britain and likely the EU as well is a to go for protectionist measures, which will screw us even further. Without competitive pressure we stand to end up as backwards as the soviet union was when it practised protectionism.
Our best bet to be frank with you is do what Lotus do. They partner with a large mass production firm in China. Lotus have the cool tech and their Chinese partners have excellent manufacturing skills, so they are one of the few examples where production is up. You see once you partner with a respectable Chinese firm you get to sell loads of cars in China. They love the cars. Chinese like the cool British classic designs. Anyway of course some firms can choose not to but I think there is going to be some serious bankruptcies across Europe. NB this was one main reason why they said we should have stayed in the EU, but I can't see a future for the EU car manufacturers, especially if they get protectionist. The UK is free to do a free trade deal with China and get building.
I sometimes wonder if you're for real The 'range gripe': the range quotations are obtained by placing a car on a flat track and running it at 28 km/h until the battery goes flat. No hills, no bends aside from the oval track, it's like triang Hornby mimic motorways The 'cold temperature' gripe certainly isn't being sorted And the chinese companies that partner with European firms produce shit with tractor engines. It's because the battery has larger energy storage. 97 kWh |
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