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Post by Vinny on Apr 16, 2024 10:45:35 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68816566Anyone born after 2009 would be unable to legally buy cigarettes or vapes, ever. Double standards there. If they want to ban it, ban it for everyone. See what happens when tobacco smuggling / growing goes through the roof.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 16, 2024 10:55:51 GMT
Totally agree.
I don't smoke, so it makes no odds to me but having one set of adults with more rights than another is simply wrong.
And either way it's pointless seeing as less and less people are smoking anyway.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 16, 2024 17:04:55 GMT
Stupid policy - that it is being introduced by a Tory Government with enthusiastic support from Labour shows they are simply two cheeks of the same arse.
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 16, 2024 20:39:51 GMT
Sunak's authority took a further bashing tonight as barely more than half of Tory MPs voted for this flagship policy.
According to some newspapers, there are fresh rumours of a leadership challenge, or manouvering for when the time is right to put the knife in.
Probable leadership contender Kemi Badenoch s decision to vote against it will be of particular concern to Number 10.
Would the back stabbers risk a leadership challenge so close to the general election ?, what will happen in just over a fortnight when the Tories get another hammering in the local elections. ?
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 16, 2024 21:46:03 GMT
Fucking ridiculous that a supposed Conservative Government should put this nonsense forward. We now havea Conservative party that does not believe in conservatism, a Labour party that does not believe in socialism and a Liberal Democrat party that does not believe in liberalism and only in democracy when it suits.
What a shit show..
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 16, 2024 22:07:25 GMT
Fucking ridiculous that a supposed Conservative Government should put this nonsense forward. We now havea Conservative party that does not believe in conservatism, a Labour party that does not believe in socialism and a Liberal Democrat party that does not believe in liberalism and only in democracy when it suits. What a shit show.. Fact is the sort of people who run corner shops selling to kids today will just get richer. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 22:38:06 GMT
Health leaders have welcomed plan to create smoke-free generation – but PM is facing trouble from some Tory MPs
Rishi Sunak’s tobacco and vapes bill aims to create the UK’s first smoke-free generation in a landmark public health intervention. The tobacco and vapes bill ensures anyone turning 15 from 2024, or younger, will be banned from buying cigarettes, and aims to make vapes less appealing to children. The legislation does not ban smoking as anyone who can legally buy tobacco now will still be able to do so if the bill becomes law [Which it will].
Is this nonsense legislation? I mean, the government banned canabis in 1928.
However, should the government really be legislating to stop people doing things that may or may not damage their health? If you say yes, then what's next, alcohol, fast food, meat. Perhaps climbing or any sport that is considered to be a risk to health should also be banned?
[Moved from elsewhere. Apologies Vin]
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 22:39:58 GMT
Fucking ridiculous that a supposed Conservative Government should put this nonsense forward. We now havea Conservative party that does not believe in conservatism, a Labour party that does not believe in socialism and a Liberal Democrat party that does not believe in liberalism and only in democracy when it suits. What a shit show.. Which is why Reform UK are polling 15%. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 16, 2024 23:47:29 GMT
Sunak's authority took a further bashing tonight as barely more than half of Tory MPs voted for this flagship policy. According to some newspapers, there are fresh rumours of a leadership challenge, or manouvering for when the time is right to put the knife in. Probable leadership contender Kemi Badenoch s decision to vote against it will be of particular concern to Number 10. Would the back stabbers risk a leadership challenge so close to the general election ?, what will happen in just over a fortnight when the Tories get another hammering in the local elections. ? Except they weren't backstabbers as it was a free vote, so not voting against the whip, but voting with conscience. The cabinet themselves were split. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 17, 2024 7:16:18 GMT
Cannabis was banned in Britain in 1928. Where is the cannabis-free generation?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2024 10:42:46 GMT
Sunak's authority took a further bashing tonight as barely more than half of Tory MPs voted for this flagship policy. According to some newspapers, there are fresh rumours of a leadership challenge, or manouvering for when the time is right to put the knife in. Probable leadership contender Kemi Badenoch s decision to vote against it will be of particular concern to Number 10. Would the back stabbers risk a leadership challenge so close to the general election ?, what will happen in just over a fortnight when the Tories get another hammering in the local elections. ? It was hardly a "flagship" policy. It was not even in the manifesto, was it? It seems that smoking is a pet hate of Sunak's and he has translated it into this ridiculous law which will result in inequity. As far as a leadership contest goes, they already had too many, they are a joke. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Apr 21, 2024 17:08:43 GMT
I have twice in the last week been verbally abused whilst sitting outside a Costa's by street people who have asked me for a roll-up. I told them I don't give anybody tobacco anymore "because it's now too expensive". Today a guy I declined to give a roll up to, who "gave me verbal" then went away, came back a few minutes later and, in front of several other people, suddenly started throwing punches at the guy I was with ... who had told him to stop hassling me. He had to be subdued by the other men present. The staff called the police and FOUR police cars turned up. The guy I was with knows him ... and is now worried that he'll damage his car. The police were unable to locate the man ... they did check the nearby streets.
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Post by Hutchyns on Apr 21, 2024 17:20:56 GMT
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Look on the bright side, within a few years there could be plenty of youngsters that will need us 'grown-ups' to buy their fags for them from now on. Naturally we'll expect monetary compensation for our time and trouble ...... this will subsidise the cost of the tobacco you buy for your own use. I can't imagine Sir Keir being any keener on civil liberties or equality under the law than Little Rishi, so start compiling a list of young puffing clients straight away.
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Post by vlk on Apr 21, 2024 17:31:40 GMT
So sometimes in the future when the 2009 generation and younger have grown up there will be situations where clearly adult people will have to show ID that they are old enough?
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Post by Hutchyns on Apr 21, 2024 18:11:25 GMT
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Hopefully a younger generation will come through abhoring the authoritarian regulations we have put into law and will repeal them. But if not a method of identifying a legal purchaser born in 2009 (or before) and someone born in 2010 (or after) with no such legal rights to purchase the same product will be necessary.
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