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Post by bancroft on Apr 12, 2024 12:32:22 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 12, 2024 12:37:13 GMT
You ought to be aware that the legal fees and costs associated with cases like this one are considered as service 'exports'. As are of course the tuition fees paid by foreign students.
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Post by Cartertonian on Apr 12, 2024 12:49:32 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but I can't get excited about something as nebulous as exporting 'services'.
If we hadn't destroyed our own manufacturing base and were in the top four for exporting tangible, physical stuff, I might be more impressed.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 20:03:56 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but I can't get excited about something as nebulous as exporting 'services'. If we hadn't destroyed our own manufacturing base and were in the top four for exporting tangible, physical stuff, I might be more impressed. The only chance we have with manufacturing is let the Chinese reteach it to us. Our people don't seem to have ever seen any in their life's work. It's all offices and photocopiers in this country.
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:52:43 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but I can't get excited about something as nebulous as exporting 'services'. If we hadn't destroyed our own manufacturing base and were in the top four for exporting tangible, physical stuff, I might be more impressed. Apparently one of the UK major exports is the exporting of other peoples gold etc. through our Services.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 13, 2024 8:07:31 GMT
I am What the hell are we exporting Benefit claims to the countries the immigrants came from ? I can't think of any other UK growth industry. Apart from political bullshit, we make a lot of that
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Post by om15 on Apr 13, 2024 8:28:33 GMT
As a former reluctant member of the AUEW I can vouch for where the responsibility for that lies. Chinese, Japanese and Indian producers can manufacture physical things twice as cheaply as we do, one reason being is that the employees are not fixated on improving their work life balance, working from home, larger annual pay rises and a four day week. Prior to the saintly intervention of Mrs Thatcher I spent as much time on strike as I did working.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 13, 2024 8:29:47 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but I can't get excited about something as nebulous as exporting 'services'. If we hadn't destroyed our own manufacturing base and were in the top four for exporting tangible, physical stuff, I might be more impressed. The only chance we have with manufacturing is let the Chinese reteach it to us. Our people don't seem to have ever seen any in their life's work. It's all offices and photocopiers in this country. China is far too busy trying to sort their exports out than try andteach granny how to suck eggs.
China's exports tumble 7.5% in March and imports also fall as demand slows......
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Post by jonksy on Apr 13, 2024 8:33:22 GMT
As a former reluctant member of the AUEW I can vouch for where the responsibility for that lies. Chinese, Japanese and Indian producers can manufacture physical things twice as cheaply as we do, one reason being is that the employees are not fixated on improving their work life balance, working from home, larger annual pay rises and a four day week. Prior to the saintly intervention of Mrs Thatcher I spent as much time on strike as I did working. BMC was a prime example of that, you only had to look at someone wrong and they went on strike and woe betide anyone apart from cleaners who picked up a broom.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 13, 2024 9:26:21 GMT
As a former reluctant member of the AUEW I can vouch for where the responsibility for that lies. Chinese, Japanese and Indian producers can manufacture physical things twice as cheaply as we do, one reason being is that the employees are not fixated on improving their work life balance, working from home, larger annual pay rises and a four day week. Prior to the saintly intervention of Mrs Thatcher I spent as much time on strike as I did working. But she, above all, destroyed this country as a place where things were made, pushing us towards the services and invisible exports which made money for her pals in the city and surrey stockbroker belt to the exclusion of all who previously had manufacturing jobs.
Chinese workers make things more cheaply than we do because they are treated like we used to treat the mill girls forced into slavery in our satanic mills by the enclosure acts that drove our peasant smallholders off the land they survived on, giving it to our landed aristocratic gentry and providing a ready-made pool of starving poor forced to endure hell.
I don't give a flying stuff what our dear Baron says about China, I have seen the pictures, watched the videos, and heard the stories, told to me by the chap who worked as my understudy at barclays, whose job it was to go out to these low wage shitholes, where factories were being built to manufacture electronics for consumption by the western world, whose workforces lived in gated accomodation guarded by armed guards.
I have seen how industrial pharmaceutical precursors are manufactured in India, again because I worked with peple who escaped that hell hole and showed me.
I have seen first hand the outsourcing IT business and its rotten core.
We could indeed compete with these countries. All we would need to do is reduce the national minimum wage to a third, and tear up every single piece of health and safety legislation introduced since shall we say Humprey Davy's mining lamp. And we nned to get this idea that life is a valuable thing out of our ethos too. We have allowed bloated values of human life to poison our path to progress. When I was a teenager, a child killed in a car crash had no financial value in an insurance settlement because they had no income against which their worth was assessed
Go back to that, starve the feckless, let the idle die in the gutters and we would soon have a country with an export profile those of us at the top of the pile would be proud of. And the rest of you can rot in hell.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 13, 2024 9:34:23 GMT
Quote:
UK fourth largest exporter in the world - The UK has shot up from its previous ranking of seventh in 2021, United Nations data has shown, rising three places in 2022, the most recent year available. In doing so, it has overtaken France, the Netherlands and Japan in the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) statistics for goods and services exports.
It may not be the biggest news story on the planet, but I cant help noticing that the usual suspects, pro EU types and lefties who never miss an opportunity to sneer at UK Plc, are predictably doing what they do best.
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 13, 2024 9:42:24 GMT
If Brexiteers leave such a vulnerable flank undefended it should not be a surprise to find it being attacked.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 13, 2024 9:58:38 GMT
The only chance we have with manufacturing is let the Chinese reteach it to us. Our people don't seem to have ever seen any in their life's work. It's all offices and photocopiers in this country. China is far too busy trying to sort their exports out than try andteach granny how to suck eggs.
China's exports tumble 7.5% in March and imports also fall as demand slows......
Granny now had a problem successfully carrying out engineering inspections of engines. Over in Cornwall they told us they spent weeks meticulously checking the consignment before launch but forgot to check the fuel filter was fitted properly. It appears to have worked its way loose and as a result this export fell not 7.5% but 100%.
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 13, 2024 10:06:20 GMT
There's a similar 'for want of a nail...' story surrounding the explosion in a Rolls-Royce engine on Qantas Flight 32.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 13, 2024 10:13:39 GMT
As a former reluctant member of the AUEW I can vouch for where the responsibility for that lies. Chinese, Japanese and Indian producers can manufacture physical things twice as cheaply as we do, one reason being is that the employees are not fixated on improving their work life balance, working from home, larger annual pay rises and a four day week. Prior to the saintly intervention of Mrs Thatcher I spent as much time on strike as I did working. BMC was a prime example of that, you only had to look at someone wrong and they went on strike and woe betide anyone apart from cleaners who picked up a broom. 1975 was my last summer as a school student (admittedly between lower and upper sixth) and it was my first experience of full time work. The last four weeks of the summer holiday saw me sitting in the offices of the Property Services Agency in the grounds of the civil service buildings sited in Cardiff between the North Road Gabalfa Flyover and the Dental Hospital. Here i experienced first hand the problem this country has with its Civil Service which is now, as it was then, neither civil nor servile, and on the take in all sorts of ways. Like for example having free access to all the food peoducd by the Cleppa Park Agricultural Research Station. You had to be on the inside to fully understand the way the Civil Service pampered its people you really did But in stark contrast the first two weeks of that holiday introduced me to the world of manual work as done by the uneducated.
Today, if you walk down the road from the Whitchurch Crossroads in what is now a suburb of Cardiff's Urban sprawl towards Llandaff, you will come across a field by the river Taff, between the grounds of Whitchurch Lunatic Asylum and what was Llandaff railway station.
In 1975 this area housed a tinplate works, now long derelict, flattened and probably yuppie housing enjoyed by idiots who have no idea how poisoned the land they have their lawns on really is. The factory in its heyday took sheet steel made at East Moors Cardiff, rolled flat and then coiled, loaded onto railway wagons built for the purpose and transported up the Llandaff spur of the Taff Vale Railway iron ore railway line that ran where Eastern Avenue does now, where the cils were offloaded, cut into sections, cold rolled, pressed, acid cleaned, cyanide treated and finally pressed into car bumpers before a final electroplating process
My job, for two weeks, was to work with a crew hired through Manpower (the temping agency) to clean the lace during its two week shutdown. It was a ten hour shift with an hour for lunch in the moddle of what I reckon was the hottest summer to date (the drought of 1976 was yet to come)
I spent my first few days pushing yard brooms to clear areas where lorries would arrive with raw materials and collect finished car bumpers, painting yellow and white lines to mark out the reversing bays and loading areas, red hatching to identify the hazard areas where failing to watch where you were going would probaby mean a coil of several tons of steel being dropped on you, or maybe a decapitation from the moving steel sheet. I spent the rest of the time cleaning and oiling and greasing grimy machinery under the supervision of one of the factory's permanent employees whose job was to keep the equipment working. My introduction to surviving a factory environment where Health and Safety was a joke would merit a thread of its own.
It was an interesting fortnight. For a start I thought i would have problems "fitting in" but not a bit of it, if asked (and I was !!) I said i wanted to make money to put away so i could actually afford beer and stuff whie at University.
I grew up very quickly that fortnight. It was my first exposure to hardcore porn magagines for a start. I never did pluck up the courage to ask my then girlfriend to explore the physical possibilities of some of those centre page illustrations.... and for some of them, well, forty five years later i still haven't worked out the engineering needed.
But the most interesting moment occurred when after about forty five minutes of sitting around doing sod all i decided to actually pick up something and start doing some of the job i was being paid to do. This caused a certain amount of alarm amongst my fellow loafers, one of whom actually asked has i seen someone coming ......
I very quickly replied that I wasn't sure but out of the corner of my eye I had seen a door swing open about 100 yards away, which indeed I had. One of the others risked a gaze in the direction I mentioned and told me not to worry, that was down by the loading bay and the wind sometines did that, but from that point on during the seriously extended lunch breaks they used me as lookout ............
I came away from that fortnight with a turn of phrase embedded in my mind. Although it particularly applied to unskilled manual labour, it has served me well at all occasions where i have some managerial or mentoring responsibility
That phrase is "People Do What You INspect, not what you EXpect
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