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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 9, 2024 7:12:42 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 9, 2024 8:47:13 GMT
There'll be no need. The Tories will have deselected themselves by the next GE. Best prepare for a fascist Labour dictatorship. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Apr 9, 2024 9:06:49 GMT
andrewbrown
While a degree of tactical voting has always been around, the almost semi-official policy of tactical campaigning is what has put rocket boosters under it.
As we witnessed in by-elections and will for sure see playing out nationwide at the General Election, the Libs and Labs will be fighting it as an unspoken coalition .... one or other, depending on the constituency, effectively standing down their candidate by canvassing to the minimum, little in the way of mailshots, publicity, public speaking etc, so as to herd their voters to cast their vote in favour of the most likely non Tory winner (does not necessarily apply to Scotland or Wales).
Tactical voting or not, a substantial proportion of the electorate have come to realise that every choice is the same choice, and will consequently refuse to take part in the charade.
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Post by vlk on Apr 12, 2024 23:35:08 GMT
People need to stop believing that tweedledee is better than tweedledum or the other way round and the pendulum swings back the other way in 10 years time.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 13, 2024 6:15:12 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (Th Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 10:15:06 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (The Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed. This is pie in the sky. Muslims will vote however they want, but if their Iman has advised a particular vote, that is not illegal is it? They don't have to take that advice. Police being present at polling stations doesn't do a lot as voting is secret in a booth. Postal votes seem to have become the norm, these days, it used to be the exception. That does seem open to abuse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 10:21:14 GMT
There'll be no need. The Tories will have deselected themselves by the next GE. Best prepare for a fascist Labour dictatorship. It's so rigged that there isn't even a need for a campaign. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 13, 2024 18:11:09 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (Th Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed. Nobody should be allowed to vote unless they turn up at the polling station and I personally wouldn't allow immigrants the right to vote in General Elections |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 13, 2024 22:44:23 GMT
You mean like Boris Johnson?
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 14, 2024 9:58:57 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (Th Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed. Nobody should be allowed to vote unless they turn up at the polling station and I personally wouldn't allow immigrants the right to vote in General Elections don't come to Wales then |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 14, 2024 10:00:11 GMT
You mean like Boris Johnson? PARTICULARLY people who change their name the minute they get here to avoid being identified as what they really are |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 14, 2024 11:33:10 GMT
You mean like Boris Johnson? I wasn't really thinking of children born to British citizens who are working overseas . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 14, 2024 11:51:45 GMT
You mean like Boris Johnson? I wasn't really thinking of children born to British citizens who are working overseas . So you're not actually bothered about where people are born? No, neither am I. This thread is about tactical voting. 🙃 |
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Post by patman post on Apr 14, 2024 13:30:54 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (Th Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed. See if you can make the following adhere to your supposition:...
S115 Representation of the People Act 1983:
“Undue influence
(1) A person shall be guilty of a corrupt practice if he is guilty of undue influence.
(2) A person shall be guilty of undue influence—
(a) if he, directly or indirectly, by himself or by any other person on his behalf, makes use of or threatens to make use of any force, violence or restraint, or inflicts or threatens to inflict, by himself or by any other person, any temporal or spiritual injury, damage, harm or loss upon or against any person in order to induce or compel that person to vote or refrain from voting, or on account of that person having voted or refrained from voting; or
(b) if, by abduction, duress or any fraudulent device or contrivance, he impedes or prevents, or intends to impede or prevent, the free exercise of the franchise of an elector or proxy for an elector, or so compels, induces or prevails upon, or intends so to compel, induce or prevail upon, an elector or proxy for an elector either to vote or to refrain from voting.” |
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Post by patman post on Apr 14, 2024 13:45:46 GMT
I'm more worried about TMV (Th Muslim Vote) which organises voting among muslim populations so that a selected muslim candidate is block voted for - often by postal votes. There should be far more security around postal votes to prevent abuse and there should be a new law that prevents organising votes along religious lines. Also police should be present at polling stations to prevent intimidation. It might be a good idea to also check the mosques for imams telling people who to vote for - which is already illegal but never policed. Nobody should be allowed to vote unless they turn up at the polling station and I personally wouldn't allow immigrants the right to vote in General Elections Hopefully, complaints about voters requiring photo ID will subside.
Only British citizens, British overseas voters, resident Irish citizens and resident qualifying Commonwealth citizens are allowed to vote in UK Parliamentary elections...
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