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Post by Handyman on Mar 27, 2024 13:37:59 GMT
What do you think "renegotiate" means? renegotiate /ˌriːnɪˈɡəʊʃɪeɪt/ verb verb: renegotiate; 3rd person present: renegotiates; past tense: renegotiated; past participle: renegotiated; gerund or present participle: renegotiating; verb: re-negotiate; 3rd person present: re-negotiates; past tense: re-negotiated; past participle: re-negotiated; gerund or present participle: re-negotiating negotiate (something) again in order to change the original agreed terms.
Fool.
Yep and a desperate one that is why he resorts to insults when proved to be one, about as much use as tits of a Boar |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:50:05 GMT
What do you think "renegotiate" means? renegotiate /ˌriːnɪˈɡəʊʃɪeɪt/ verb verb: renegotiate; 3rd person present: renegotiates; past tense: renegotiated; past participle: renegotiated; gerund or present participle: renegotiating; verb: re-negotiate; 3rd person present: re-negotiates; past tense: re-negotiated; past participle: re-negotiated; gerund or present participle: re-negotiating negotiate (something) again in order to change the original agreed terms.
Fool.
Starmer is working with the 'TCA -- Trade and Cooperation Agreement -- that is part of the original agreement, and allows some beneficial changes to be made. Some biased dick head in an equally dick head newspaper changed that into a renegotiation of the original agreement. And biased Righties on this thread can't or choose not to see the difference. They are a pretty senseless lot who are easily led by obvious propaganda nonsense that suits their overly biased limited thinking. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:52:40 GMT
What do you think "renegotiate" means? renegotiate /ˌriːnɪˈɡəʊʃɪeɪt/ verb verb: renegotiate; 3rd person present: renegotiates; past tense: renegotiated; past participle: renegotiated; gerund or present participle: renegotiating; verb: re-negotiate; 3rd person present: re-negotiates; past tense: re-negotiated; past participle: re-negotiated; gerund or present participle: re-negotiating negotiate (something) again in order to change the original agreed terms.
Fool.
Yep and a desperate one that is why he resorts to insults when proved to be one, about as much use as tits of a Boar Your arrogant ignorance makes just about every post you make, an insult to intelligent thinking. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 18:28:41 GMT
It's the bit where it says "Renegotiate". Fool. 🙄 Don't be silly I asked where Starmer said i.e. in quotation marks, he will renegotiate the original agreement? Right here, in your very own Grauniad:
Fool.
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 28, 2024 8:31:09 GMT
That depends on the EU, not the "sovereign" UK. Bitter remainiac tears, I almost feel for you.  Are you so far doen the rabbit hole that you dont know that to rejoin takes approval from every member?? And please stop using outdated trite populist mundane pointless empty phrases. Even you can be a bit more otiginal. I hope. |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 28, 2024 8:38:06 GMT
Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual, would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake. Indeed. So many lies and the remnants still lying now. I find the term remnants hugely ironic, given the new tightening of non EU citizens' entry requirements to visit the EU , brought about by efforts to prevent illegal and terrorist activity. It is the UK citizens who are now considered as remnants, outsiders, in the same way as any other non EU citizens. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 28, 2024 10:15:27 GMT
That's why they've told Starmer to fuck off. It's all good. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 28, 2024 11:57:22 GMT
Bitter remainiac tears, I almost feel for you. Are you so far doen the rabbit hole that you dont know that to rejoin takes approval from every member?? And please stop using outdated trite populist mundane pointless empty phrases. Even you can be a bit more otiginal. I hope. I am very aware of that, and I have to say I'm pleased with the arrangement. It lessens the chance of the Independent and Sovereign UK ever being governed from Belgium again. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 28, 2024 12:55:22 GMT
...And please stop using outdated trite populist mundane pointless empty phrases... Like that one?  |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2024 13:04:10 GMT
Don't be silly I asked where Starmer said i.e. in quotation marks, he will renegotiate the original agreement? Right here, in your very own Grauniad:
Fool.
From the 'Link' "Labour leader to meet Emmanuel Macron amid his international tour to test appetite for closer ties to EU" Sept. 2023. --- So hopes for some renegotiations, not actions or intentions of renegotiating. -- "Joël Reland, a research associate at UK in a Changing Europe, said: “The EU is only interested in a very narrow technical exercise looking at how the TCA [trade and cooperating agreement] is being implemented.". -- Which is what Starmer / Labour settled for 2024. “The Labour party is also playing it very safe. It’s not looking to return to the single market, rejoin the customs union. It’s not even looking to set up a chapter on security and foreign policy,” said one senior official in Brussels." www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/19/keir-starmer-europe-talk-new-brexit-deal-labour-leader-emmanuel-macron-euSo Starmer never said he would renegotiate the original agreement. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 28, 2024 13:14:05 GMT
"Sir Keir Starmer has promised to seek a major rewrite of Britain’s Brexit deal in 2025 if the Labour party wins the next general election, saying he owes it to his children to rebuild relations with the EU... “Almost everyone recognises the deal Johnson struck is not a good deal — it’s far too thin,” he said in an interview. “As we go into 2025 we will attempt to get a much better deal for the UK.”
Also documented here:
And here:
Now stop being a fool, there's a chap.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 28, 2024 21:12:11 GMT
Not 100% sure what Starmer was presenting to the EU apart from regulatory alignment with EU rules . That the EU wants more than that to re-open the agreement means we would be moving into a very dangerous period under Starmer . Exactly. I wouldn't trust flip flop at all with regards to the EU. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2024 6:36:19 GMT
Not 100% sure what Starmer was presenting to the EU apart from regulatory alignment with EU rules . That the EU wants more than that to re-open the agreement means we would be moving into a very dangerous period under Starmer . . Neither would anyone else if they hand ant sense..
“Fantastic” – Starmer’s Choosing the Curtains at Number 10 After Election Triumphs..
I wonder it they will be red with a yellow hammer and sickle or blue with yellow stars?
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 29, 2024 9:15:26 GMT
Starmers policy of renegotiating the current EU agreement to boost economic growth rejected by EU. Will he have any policies left by the election? in all honesty does anyone either know what he intends it trust him to do it ? I ask seriously because even the few misguided souls I drink with who still support labour don't see how they can vote for him |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 29, 2024 9:23:18 GMT
Denigration and insults is all the Tory poodles have got, or ever had. No more than your denigration and insults referring to Brexit voters as a 'stain on the character of the British people'.
The only stain on our characters was the disgusting display of the undemocratic behaviour of British politicians, including the speaker of the house Bercow, trying to cancel the wishes and the democratic vote of the people in a legal referendum, Swinson/Corbyn trying to overturn democracy, they should hang their heads in shame, no one can talk about Putin or Kim Jong Un, when are own elected politicians were trying to play dictators.
As I have stated a few times, the fact is every labour candidate in Wales in the 2017 election used a proforma manifesto leaflet created not by the momentum-infected JC4PM but the Gestapo admiring Welsh assembly, and chose to be depicted not alongside their elected national party leader whose position was so far up the fence post as to make one's eyes water, but I stead be shown either without his face in shot using imagery captured if them in the commons chamber, or for the rejoiner contingent the the photoshoot on the steps of the Cardiff hit air shit pit with the jerk in the first minister's hole, whose policy was to do fuck all and then blame the silly people who voted to leave for getting themselves in the mess caused by his ideological refusal to act in the way the people voted.. every one of the scum used the same text promising to respect the declared will of the majority while in reality the moment they got their arses back in green leather they cibsired with that shutbag berciw to zombify tbe parliament hoping to follow David lammy's recommendation that the will of the people be completely ignored. 2019 was a direct result of their treachery |
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