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Post by Pacifico on Mar 26, 2024 22:16:38 GMT
Starmers policy of renegotiating the current EU agreement to boost economic growth rejected by EU. Will he have any policies left by the election?
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Post by wapentake on Mar 26, 2024 22:21:31 GMT
What’s the more realistic approach he thinks of,abject surrender ?
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 26, 2024 23:19:16 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest.
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 27, 2024 7:00:10 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. That depends on the EU, not the "sovereign" UK.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2024 7:08:02 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. That depends on the EU, not the "sovereign" UK. Bitter remainiac tears, I almost feel for you.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 27, 2024 7:36:48 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. There is no majority for that
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 27, 2024 8:02:57 GMT
Starmers policy of renegotiating the current EU agreement to boost economic growth rejected by EU. Will he have any policies left by the election? Oh well it might add more votes in labour favour .
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 9:41:28 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. That depends on the EU, not the "sovereign" UK. And the EU says "No", thankfully.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 9:50:23 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. Wishful thinking, and the sooner you and the rest of the remoaners realise that, we might start making even bigger headway with Brexit, you daydreamers have held us back long enough now, forget the EU it's on its last legs, we got out just by the skin of our teeth ... phewwww
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 27, 2024 10:12:09 GMT
Whatever will be, will be
The current Trade Agreement has to be reviewed in 2025, that is part of the agreement, but if the EU decide to not make any major changes, then there's nothing we can do about it, but at least Keir Starmer has TRYED to get a better deal, he will have made an effort to get a better deal.
The sole reason Starmer will have attempted to get an improved deal is for our economy, for exporters, for our businesses, for jobs and growth.
The world tends not to like Failures, but most will always admire them that try their best.
We shall see what next year brings, but cheers to Starmer for looking after our interests
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 27, 2024 10:35:26 GMT
totheleft
I quite agree. Let's remember that Starmer is such a pro-EU fanatic that he was even proposing we overturn a democratic vote, so that we could vote again and this time deliver the 'correct' result. Starmer wants to regain those Red Wall votes and seats, the obvious thing for him to do is to advise the EU that it's in both his and their interests if they don't appear too eager to jump straight back into bed together.
I'd be asking the EU to appear to play hard to get for the moment, and likewise I'd playdown any ideas of major realignment intentions. Of course once he's in No.10 then the whole charade can be scrapped, both here and in Brussels, and their real intention of getting us joined at the hip will soon be out in the open.
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 27, 2024 10:42:48 GMT
Not 100% sure what Starmer was presenting to the EU apart from regulatory alignment with EU rules . That the EU wants more than that to re-open the agreement means we would be moving into a very dangerous period under Starmer .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 10:43:54 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. He can if he wants. The rest of the country said no, remember?
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 10:45:58 GMT
We may as well just rejoin to be honest. Wishful thinking, and the sooner you and the rest of the remoaners realise that we might start making even bigger headway with Brexit, you daydreamers have held us back long enough now, forget the EU it's on its last legs, we got out just by the skin of our teeth ... phewwww As is usual with reading Tory newspapers one has to go beyond the headlines in order to get to the truth of the matter. Ammunition for the whinging Tory poodles comes first. --"Mr. Thomas-Symonds told The Telegraph: “The deal agreed by this Government with the EU means that the TCA (Trade and Cooperation Agreement) must be reviewed in 2026 - this will be an important opportunity for both sides to look at how improvements can be made. “A Labour Government would look to build upon the TCA to secure improvements in our trade and security relationships with the EU, including through a veterinary agreement and a UK-EU defense and security pact to complement NATO and strengthen European security. “These commitments will be - firmly - within Labour’s red lines of no return to the Single Market, Customs Union or Freedom of Movement.”It is those with their heads so firmly stuck up Brexit's backside that they do a Putin/Trump move by blaming others for their own failures, who need to wake up.
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 10:59:45 GMT
totheleft I quite agree. Let's remember that Starmer is such a pro-EU fanatic that he was even proposing we overturn a democratic vote, so that we could vote again and this time deliver the 'correct' result. Starmer wants to regain those Red Wall votes and seats, the obvious thing for him to do is to advise the EU that it's in both his and their interests if they don't appear too eager to jump straight back into bed together. I'd be asking the EU to appear to play hard to get for the moment, and likewise I'd playdown any ideas of major realignment intentions. Of course once he's in No.10 then the whole charade can be scrapped, both here and in Brussels, and their real intention of getting us joined at the hip will soon be out in the open. Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual, would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake.
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