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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 11:04:23 GMT
totheleft I quite agree. Let's remember that Starmer is such a pro-EU fanatic that he was even proposing we overturn a democratic vote, so that we could vote again and this time deliver the 'correct' result. Starmer wants to regain those Red Wall votes and seats, the obvious thing for him to do is to advise the EU that it's in both his and their interests if they don't appear too eager to jump straight back into bed together. I'd be asking the EU to appear to play hard to get for the moment, and likewise I'd playdown any ideas of major realignment intentions. Of course once he's in No.10 then the whole charade can be scrapped, both here and in Brussels, and their real intention of getting us joined at the hip will soon be out in the open. Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual, would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake. Indeed. So many lies and the remnants still lying now. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 11:05:45 GMT
totheleft I quite agree. Let's remember that Starmer is such a pro-EU fanatic that he was even proposing we overturn a democratic vote, so that we could vote again and this time deliver the 'correct' result. Starmer wants to regain those Red Wall votes and seats, the obvious thing for him to do is to advise the EU that it's in both his and their interests if they don't appear too eager to jump straight back into bed together. I'd be asking the EU to appear to play hard to get for the moment, and likewise I'd playdown any ideas of major realignment intentions. Of course once he's in No.10 then the whole charade can be scrapped, both here and in Brussels, and their real intention of getting us joined at the hip will soon be out in the open. , would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake. Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual hahahahaha
(now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) you should be more concerned about the stain on your bedclothes.
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 11:14:45 GMT
Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual, would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake. Indeed. So many lies and the remnants still lying now. Exposing your dishonesty for all to see is not necessary, it just confirms you as a possible perpetrator of the Brexit lies. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 11:17:19 GMT
Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual, would almost certainly have settled for a more well informed result. It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake. Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual hahahahaha
(now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) you should be more concerned about the stain on your bedclothes.
Denigration and insults is all the Tory poodles have got, or ever had. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 11:25:48 GMT
Starmer, being a reasonable and an intelligent individual hahahahaha
(now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) you should be more concerned about the stain on your bedclothes.
Denigration and insults is all the Tory poodles have got, or ever had. No more than your denigration and insults referring to Brexit voters as a 'stain on the character of the British people'.
The only stain on our characters was the disgusting display of the undemocratic behaviour of British politicians, including the speaker of the house Bercow, trying to cancel the wishes and the democratic vote of the people in a legal referendum, Swinson/Corbyn trying to overturn democracy, they should hang their heads in shame, no one can talk about Putin or Kim Jong Un, when are own elected politicians were trying to play dictators.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 27, 2024 11:33:15 GMT
Starmers policy of renegotiating the current EU agreement to boost economic growth rejected by EU. Will he have any policies left by the election?  He used to be Indecisive , now he's to not so sure if he was or wasn't  |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 12:49:03 GMT
Denigration and insults is all the Tory poodles have got, or ever had. No more than your denigration and insults referring to Brexit voters as a 'stain on the character of the British people'.
The only stain on our characters was the disgusting display of the undemocratic behaviour of British politicians, including the speaker of the house Bercow, trying to cancel the wishes and the democratic vote of the people in a legal referendum, Swinson/Corbyn trying to overturn democracy, they should hang their heads in shame, no one can talk about Putin or Kim Jong Un, when are own elected politicians were trying to play dictators.
You have turned my comment into a lie. Why have you done that? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 12:51:01 GMT
No more than your denigration and insults referring to Brexit voters as a 'stain on the character of the British people'.
The only stain on our characters was the disgusting display of the undemocratic behaviour of British politicians, including the speaker of the house Bercow, trying to cancel the wishes and the democratic vote of the people in a legal referendum, Swinson/Corbyn trying to overturn democracy, they should hang their heads in shame, no one can talk about Putin or Kim Jong Un, when are own elected politicians were trying to play dictators.
You have turned my comment into a lie. Why have you done that? Point out the lie? |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:00:16 GMT
Starmers policy of renegotiating the current EU agreement to boost economic growth rejected by EU. Will he have any policies left by the election? He used to be Indecisive , now he's to not so sure if he was or wasn't Where does Starmer say, he will renegotiate the original agreement? Your 'clever' arsed policeman is on show. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
Indeed. So many lies and the remnants still lying now. Exposing your dishonesty for all to see is not necessary, it just confirms you as a possible perpetrator of the Brexit lies.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 13:05:31 GMT
Where does Starmer say, he will renegotiate the original agreement?... It's the bit where it says "Renegotiate". Fool. 🙄 |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:12:58 GMT
You have turned my comment into a lie. Why have you done that? Point out the lie? My comment. " It was IMO the poorness of and the high levels of dishonesty of the Referendum (now an undeniable stain on the character of the British people) that left so much discontent in its wake." First off. I'm referring to my opinion, not making an accusation. Second off. The undeniable stain is about -- "the high levels of dishonesty that occurred during the Referendum". -- that were seen by the watching world. It was not directly aimed at the Brexit voters. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:14:24 GMT
Exposing your dishonesty for all to see is not necessary, it just confirms you as a possible perpetrator of the Brexit lies.
Ha ha ha, nice piece of projection. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 27, 2024 13:25:04 GMT
Where does Starmer say, he will renegotiate the original agreement?... It's the bit where it says "Renegotiate". Fool. 🙄 Don't be silly I asked where Starmer said i.e. in quotation marks, he will renegotiate the original agreement? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 27, 2024 13:30:15 GMT
What do you think "renegotiate" means? renegotiate /ˌriːnɪˈɡəʊʃɪeɪt/ verb verb: renegotiate; 3rd person present: renegotiates; past tense: renegotiated; past participle: renegotiated; gerund or present participle: renegotiating; verb: re-negotiate; 3rd person present: re-negotiates; past tense: re-negotiated; past participle: re-negotiated; gerund or present participle: re-negotiating negotiate (something) again in order to change the original agreed terms.
Fool.
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