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Post by jaydee on Nov 29, 2022 10:08:02 GMT
I totally agree with your point about PFI - a disastrous way of trying to hide increased public spending. and extremely devious of labour. Dont forget much of the figures didnt show up on brown and blairs books , as the payments were kicked into the long grass for future governments to pay . Good way of labour avoiding the old tax and spend label , but as ever with that party someone somewhere has to foot the bill for their profligacy. This is PFI. Thanks to the Tory's. As the sleaze bags in the days of the old Scottish Office, elected by nobody in Scotland. Screwed the public to boost the bank accounts of the sleaze bags. By the time the toll was scrapped in 2004, on the Skye Bridge the £20m bridge had raised £33m for the American company that owned it. The Scottish government then bought the bridge for £27m and cancelled the toll. Which was the highest in Europe. The total cost to the public was an estimated £93m, for a £20 million bridge. When Alex Salmond became Fist Minister in 2007 he scrapped all PFI and tolls in Scotland. My late wife was from Skye and I had a run in with the tolls while towing a caravan with my then works van. She had a disability badge. The toll tried to make out as it was a works van it did not cover my wife's badge.. . That was £11 pound for the van and £11 for the caravan to cross. I agreed to pay for the caravan. But refused to pay for the van. I refused to move till a police officer arrived. After 30 minutes and a tail back of a few miles.. they waved me through. On the way back home. I was waved through without hassle. Those living on the island were awarded discounts. But still extortion. In terms of hospitals in England. They have 71% of hospital in the UK with 84% of the population. The NHS in England has been totally destroyed by the Tory's in England. Who clearly want it privatised. www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/18/bain-capital-plasma-resources-ukwww.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/25/boris-johnson-conservatives-nhs-fundingThe £300 Billion PFI debt to English local authority NHS trust is appalling. And since 2010 some 30 or so, i cannot recall the exact number have had to be taken into administration by the government. The irony it is that bunch of despotic muppets in Westminster who caused the problem in the first place. Then add on the rest of the local authority debt. I really do get my kill when stupid Englishmen come on here ranting garbage about the Scottish NHS. Which needs reforming but unlike England has not been decimated to near destruction, as it is a retained matter. . It does not matter how many times you put facts and figures at them. It is just ignored. Still ranting the continual havering salering rubbish. Then the laughable bit. Johnston promised to build £40 new hospitals to bring it up to the population status in Scotland. At a cost of £24 billion to the tax payer. That's me paying for English hospitals after paying for Scottish ones. A couple of doors and a new lick of paint were put on the dilapidated hospitals in English NHS trusts. And he claimed it was a new hospitals. And it is beyond believe. Complete and clueless idiots believed the fanny and swallowed it hook line and sinker. One thing is for sure. The PFI debt in England is not going away. If this bunch of muppets in Westminster get another fours years. The NHS in England will be sold to the Americans. As in Brexit. Dragging Scotland with it. The main reason why energy rich Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. Give it a day and clowns will still be ranting about the dreadful state of Scotland. In the links. For Britain read England
fullfact.org/health/48-new-hospitals/www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jul/05/pfi-cost-300bn |
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Post by Handyman on Dec 3, 2022 13:34:43 GMT
The NHS in the four countries is not run well and badly organised IMO, the reason more Patients attend A&E in England is because England as you rightly point out has a much larger population, more people live in London than the whole of Scotland, the bulk of the taxation used to fund all four counties is raised in England. You would think that the NHS in NI, Wales and Scotland due to their smaller populations would be run more efficiently but it appears that is not the case certainly Wales is not, England also struggles to cope due to the size of its population. NHS or Private Care, Private Hospitals, Private Hospitals don't have A&E departments, they don't have the same equipment at the NHS most don't have MIR Scanners and similar large, sophisticated expensive equipment, but they will use NHS equipment if they need to which they pay the NHS for using them. Private Hospitals do not have long waiting lists operations etc for the very obvious reasons they do not have anywhere near the huge number of patients that the NHS has, most Private Hospitals will carry out procedures and other surgical operations six days a week, they also carry out operations on NHS patients to try and reduce the NHS waiting lists which the NHS pay for. Private Medical Insurance is now cheaper than ever before due to stiff competion between the Insurance Companies, and the falling number of people who have lost their work, inflation and have to economise, now you can get Medical Insurance for under £30 a month. If you do have Medical Insurance, it is an easy process you ask your GP for a Referral Letter which you pay a fee for, once that is done the Insurance Company arranges for the Private Hospital to deal with you within days for an examination and if needed surgery within a couple of weeks after at most NHS badly organised and inefficient has been for years lots of wasted taxpayers' money, it needs to be run better by people who know what they are doing, not none medically trained CEO and Heads of Departments |
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Post by morayloon on Dec 3, 2022 16:04:49 GMT
The NHS in the four countries is not run well and badly organised IMO, the reason more Patients attend A&E in England is because England as you rightly point out has a much larger population, more people live in London than the whole of Scotland, the bulk of the taxation used to fund all four counties is raised in England. You would think that the NHS in NI, Wales and Scotland due to their smaller populations would be run more efficiently but it appears that is not the case certainly Wales is not, England also struggles to cope due to the size of its population. NHS or Private Care, Private Hospitals, Private Hospitals don't have A&E departments, they don't have the same equipment at the NHS most don't have MIR Scanners and similar large, sophisticated expensive equipment, but they will use NHS equipment if they need to which they pay the NHS for using them. Private Hospitals do not have long waiting lists operations etc for the very obvious reasons they do not have anywhere near the huge number of patients that the NHS has, most Private Hospitals will carry out procedures and other surgical operations six days a week, they also carry out operations on NHS patients to try and reduce the NHS waiting lists which the NHS pay for. Private Medical Insurance is now cheaper than ever before due to stiff competion between the Insurance Companies, and the falling number of people who have lost their work, inflation and have to economise, now you can get Medical Insurance for under £30 a month. If you do have Medical Insurance, it is an easy process you ask your GP for a Referral Letter which you pay a fee for, once that is done the Insurance Company arranges for the Private Hospital to deal with you within days for an examination and if needed surgery within a couple of weeks after at most NHS badly organised and inefficient has been for years lots of wasted taxpayers' money, it needs to be run better by people who know what they are doing, not none medically trained CEO and Heads of Departments There will always be administrators required. Isn't the US system 'top heavy'? "Administrative costs of care (activities relating to planning, regulating, and managing health systems and services) accounted for 8% in the US vs a range of 1% to 3% in the other countrie" jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671 Private Health Care merely produces a 2 tier system. One where patients who have such cover can queue jump. The real bone of contention is that, very often it is the same physician who checks you over courtesy of the NHS, that will carry out the procedure in a Private Hospital. As an example, I had eye surgery carried out some years ago. I was told that it would be months before the operation could be fitted in but, I could have it done the following week if I was willing to pay about £3,000. I just do not think that such blatant queue jumping is right. Somehow, the NHS should be better funded and brought up to a decent standard. There is always money found to fight wars. If the UK was not so belligerent country we would be able to better fund our NHS On the matter of funding. It is Scottish money, raised from taxation in Scotland, that pays for the NHS here. No English money is required. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 4, 2022 8:15:44 GMT
Somehow, the NHS should be better funded and brought up to a decent standard. There is always money found to fight wars. If the UK was not so belligerent country we would be able to better fund our NHS On the matter of funding. It is Scottish money, raised from taxation in Scotland, that pays for the NHS here. No English money is required. So there is nothing preventing the SNP from increasing the funding in Scotland to give you the best healthcare system in the world - it's just a matter of political will. Which is a shame as it would be a good experiment to see if throwing billions more at the NHS really made much of a difference. |
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Post by jaydee on Dec 4, 2022 9:24:33 GMT
It is Scottish money, raised from taxation in Scotland, that pays for the NHS here. No English money is required. Alas. The amount of money allocated under Barnett to the NHS of Scotlands own money, is derived from the needs of England. As you point out it is Scotland own money. The problem is. If Scotland needed more. Tough. In the case of the NHS using Scotland own money and needing more. That will only be allocated by Westminster if it is needed by England. Then the Barnett consequencials kick in. As in covid. From which the Scottish government was short changed over the period of the pandemic by £5 billion. That is just on the NHS. Scotland contributes on average 9.6% of all UK tax with 8.4% of the population. That's 1.2% of Scottish GDP whistling south or on average around £6 billion a year. Not to mention with 8.4% of the UK population Scotland is awarded 3.4% of defence procurement. While the subsidy junkies of the South east are awarded some 45%. Again a shortfall of around £5 billion. Despite the fact Scotland contributes 2.7% of its GDP to defence. Despite the fact that there is not one surface war ship stationed in Scottish waters. Instead of the Royal Navy propping up the bars of southern England and feeding the local economy. The Royal Navy should be stationed in Scapa Flow, whee it was during the two world wars. The danger to to the UK is from the northern approaches. Where Russian subs are slinking in and out of the GIUK gap. To the horror of the United States. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 13, 2022 22:21:08 GMT
Good to see that the NHS in Scotland is concentrating on the important stuff. Although I did wonder where they are proposing that these patients be removed to - reeducation camps maybe?  |
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