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Post by jaydee on Mar 30, 2024 12:23:57 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 30, 2024 12:30:52 GMT
Perhaps a more cogent question would be to ask why Scotland still needs its own legal system after more than three centuries in the Union? What is the practical benefit and what is the incremental cost? Exactly, abolish division. Have one legal system for the whole UK. Abolish devolution. Cut costs. Unite our country. I agree. Devolution has been a complete farce especially since the SNP got hold of the controls.
As a point of principle and straightforward common-sense none of the 'national governments' should have any powers above those that would be given to an English region, just as is the case in say France and Germany.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 30, 2024 12:31:48 GMT
You just di with Scotish law. In what way does my understanding that there is Scots Law translate into my recognising that Scotland is a country? Now let me think. Does Scottish law mean it refers to England. Or maybe Canada. No matey it refers to Scotland. And for your info there is no such thing as a UK law or a police Officer or a UK court or a UK prison, or warden. So stop being stupid. Now about you explaining how Scotland is not a country
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 12:40:08 GMT
Abolish division. The Scots the Welsh and the English are all THE BRITISH. And scrap the separate footie teams too. Have a Great Britain team at the World Cup with the best Welsh, English and Scottish players all on the same side. We might actually even win a World Cup.
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 30, 2024 12:44:10 GMT
Not sure I agree about the football. Hard to think of any players that would make the England squad. It might be a good idea to abolish the four national FAs though, they have long been a bone of contention at EUFA and FIFA.
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Post by happyjack on Mar 30, 2024 12:52:29 GMT
“Now let me think. Does Scottish law mean it refers to England. Or maybe Canada. No matey it refers to Scotland. And for your info there is no such thing as a UK law or a police Officer or a UK court or a UK prison, or warden. So stop being stupid. Now about you explaining how Scotland is not a country”
No, it doesn’t mean that it refers to either England or Canada. It only relates directly to Scotland although it does impact upon legal thinking in England (just as English law and case history impacts upon legal thinking in Scotland) and, to a lesser extent, given Canada’s history and the influence of its sizeable Scots diaspora, probably Canada too.
And even if you were correct to claim that “there is no such thing as a UK law or a police Officer or a UK court or a UK prison, or warden” (which you are not) then so what? That wouldn’t make Scotland a country anymore that its separate education system, health system, devolved parliament, sports associations, tartan, shortbread or square sausage make it a country.
Scotland is not a country because it is instead, through choice, part of a larger country, commonly referred to as the UK or the United Kingdom.
So I ask you again, in what way does my understanding that there is Scots Law translate into my recognising that Scotland is a country?
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Post by om15 on Mar 30, 2024 12:53:50 GMT
I see that you have now exhausted the Asphalt Association for sources of inspiration for your unhinged ravings and are now resorting to Mumsnet. Have the Mumsnet members recieved warnings about you I wonder? Make the most of the weekend because on Monday you will be silenced by the draconian new laws in Scotland, unless of course you wish to rave about how white the top executives in Scotland are, that will be ok of course.
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Post by happyjack on Mar 30, 2024 12:54:25 GMT
Abolish division. The Scots the Welsh and the English are all THE BRITISH. And scrap the separate footie teams too. Have a Great Britain team at the World Cup with the best Welsh, English and Scottish players all on the same side. We might actually even win a World Cup.
Why do you leave NI out here, Vinny? Surely, if we go down that road, it would be appropriate to have a UK team, not just a GB team?
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Post by jaydee on Mar 30, 2024 12:56:32 GMT
Exactly, abolish division. Have one legal system for the whole UK. Abolish devolution. Cut costs. Unite our country. I agree. Devolution has been a complete farce especially since the SNP got hold of the controls.
As a point of principle and straightforward common-sense none of the 'national governments' should have any powers above those that would be given to an English region, just as is the case in say France and Germany.
Devolution cost you nothing. And as a stop before leaving bankrupt England brought about the tory wankers taking control in England, dragging Scotland with it. The SNP are a protection. Let me give you few facts. Go on be a first correct what i am about to say. Healthcare spending in Scotland is £2,368 per person, while in England it is £2,182. Scotland has 76 GPs per 100,000 people, compared to England with 60 per 100,000 .The number of patients spending over 12 hours in A&E was 0.2 per cent in Scotland, 2 per cent in England. Scottish nurses, Police Officers and firemen are the highest paid in the UK. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Scottish nurse average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. The doctors strike has increased that in England. I have no idea by how much. In terms of education . The Scots are the most educated people in Europe. Some 52% of Scots have University qualifications. That’s 8% higher than England. Not to mention. Scotland has four University's in the top 100 in the world. That's more per head than any other country in the world. Not to mention University placement is free. Saving some £14,000 a year. So imagine having a family of 4 going to university. As you know the class system does not operate north of the border. There were 3.9 million children living in poverty in England in 2020-21. That's 27 per cent of children, or eight in a classroom of 30. In Scotland. Funded early learning and childcare is free to parents, but funded by the Scottish Government. You can get up to 1,140 hours of funded early learning and childcare a year (around 30 hours a week in term time) if your child is 3 or 4 years old. Some 2 year olds are also eligible. On top of the National UK payment. Scottish Child Payment is awarded if successful towards the costs of supporting family in poverty. . It's a weekly payment of £25 that you can get for every child who's under 16 years of age. The payment every 4 weeks. It does not cost the English tax payer one penny. Neither does devolved matters. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. In terms of exports per head, Scotland out performs the UK: Scotland exports £17,455 per head per year, while England exports £8,626 per head per year. Scotland is an exporting powerhouse, Whose success has had nothing to do with being part of the UK, but whose future has been jeopardised due to the UK leading taking Scotland out of the European Union. In 2022 Scots paid 40 - 50% more on energy bills than the south of England. Energy is a retained matter and is part of the National Grid that runs the entire length of the UK and across the channel. Business all over the world are in business of making money and do not give a rats crap where they source there products to run that business. On average renewable costs 3.7 pence per KW hour to produce While on average Nuclear and fossil fuel costs around 50 pence per KW hour to produce. Scotland can now produce all it needs and more to spare on renewable. On wind and wave power alone Scotland holds some 30% of the European capacity. It's a power house. To cut a long story short. When renewable enters the national grid. That 3.7 pence turns into 50 pence on that product that Scotland exports by the bucket load. On indy the Scottish Government will operate two markets. One singular to Scottish needs and the other to the national grid. That 3.7 pence will give a return to the Scots of 50 pence. Simple mathematic. If business can produce a widget for 3.7 pence. Then the one that costs 50 pence to make is going to have a problem. That is the scale. Oil in Scotland is a bonus. The Scottish Construction industry has a turn over of £20 billion between 21,000 companies employing 125,000 people directly. That is 20% more per capita than England. In 2021 Scotland built 118 affordable houses per 100,000. Guess what, as the previous figures suggest. That is 22% more than England at 22% per 100,000. Because of the disaster of affordable housing in England. The Joseph Rowntree Foundation have found that over 1 million families in England are paying rent that they simply cannot afford. Then the likes of Sunak rants the Scots are the highest taxed in the UK. That is correct if you earn over £125,000 per year. That is around 20% of taxpayers. What clowns like him and D.Ross conveniently miss out. Some 80% of Scottish taxpayers pay less than those in England. Scotland has a progressive tax system, with various rates. . But the basic rate is dictated by the UK treasury. Which England is screaming for. Then of course look to the links below ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/220201/threadSo would you care to point out what the farce is. That is what you said. By the way. You do know he second Scotland leaves bankrupt England. England would have to borrow £100 billion more than it does now. That just to stand still. Would you care to correct anything. Now I recall from the days before Brexit. The pish you spewed about how the world needs England more than than England needs the world. And how the German car company would come riding over the hill at sunset Demanding a deal. That is the fanny you spewed. England The only country in the world ever. That voted to make itself poorer. So would you care to elucidate how Scotland would benefit from being run by clowns like Bojoke or Truss, as opposed to the SNP. It's a very simple question now you have a few facts, not Westminster fanny.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 30, 2024 13:06:44 GMT
I see that you have now exhausted the Asphalt Association for sources of inspiration for your unhinged ravings and are now resorting to Mumsnet. Have the Mumsnet members recieved warnings about you I wonder? Make the most of the weekend because on Monday you will be silenced by the draconian new laws in Scotland, unless of course you wish to rave about how white the top executives in Scotland are, that will be ok of course. Mr Stupid at his stupid best I have not left the Asphalt industry out. You rented it came from the National. Which by the way fact checks what it says unless it come from a 3rd party clown like you. So let me give you a copy and paste. I have not updated it yet. And the update version is very bad. But I will get round when you shout the same pish again. And unlike your rants, what have I to be silenced about by mumsnet. Pointing out racist prats. That's the idea. Now how abot pointing to one of my unhinged ravings that you never correct. While I correct every one of your unhinged ravings. Like how the former FM stole £600,000 The number of potholes filled in by councils in England and Wales has increased during the past year to almost 1.7 million, a survey suggests.The Asphalt Industry Alliance said this figure - up 200,000 from 1.5 million in 2019-20 - equated to one being fixed every 19 seconds. It now works out that £61,700 is needed to be spent for every mile of local road in England and Wales and it would take councils nine years to bring their crumbling networks up to scratch.. Requires updating.Now that in italics above that you described as unhinged ravings. There in your unhinged bollocks in the link below is my source. So in your unhinged raving would you care to correct it www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-10636661/Bill-fix-potholed-roads-soars-quarter-12-6bn.html
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 30, 2024 14:19:41 GMT
They've trashed the schools, the health service and the economy. Now the SNP are set to destroy free speech with 'hate crime' law that's an ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE
Under a new law which comes into force on Monday, if you live in Scotland you risk being charged with a ‘hate crime’ for something you say anywhere, including in your own home. Even your children will be able to report you to Police Scotland, which — from among its already over-stretched, lacklustre ranks — will deploy 500 ‘hate crime champions’ to bring the ‘haters’ to justice. Petty crime is pretty much ignored by the Scottish police these days, but its oh-so-woke-and-weak leadership vows to investigate every hate incident, in keeping with its recent appetite for acting as the McPlod enforcement wing of the SNP. Clearly scouring social media postings from a warm office is safer and more congenial than patrolling Glasgow’s Sauchiehall Street on a Friday night when the pubs are emptying out. Those who think they’ve been slighted or ridiculed will be able to report it, anonymously if they wish, to more than 400 new ‘reporting centres’ spread across the country, including one in a Glasgow sex shop (seriously) and a mushroom farm (again, seriously). It will be enough that someone feels what you said was hateful; they don’t have to prove that it was. In other words, if I think what you said is a hate crime, it’s a hate crime. Even if the police decide what you said wasn’t quite hateful enough to merit being charged, you could still be logged, without your knowledge, in a police non-crime hate incident (NCHI) database, to which future prospective employers could request access. So your career could easily be stymied simply by the recording of a crime you didn’t commit. It is, I think you must admit, quite a clever way of ensuring that only ‘right-thinking’ (i.e. liberal-Left) folks are ever appointed or promoted, especially in Scotland’s bloated, well-paid public sector. Yes, I am aware that Monday is April 1. But, contrary to all appearances, this is no April Fool. Rather it is an all-too-real Orwellian nightmare with a Scottish accent, brought to us by the same people who’ve trashed Scotland’s once world-class schools, made the Scottish health service unfit for purpose, turned Scotland into the drug-related death capital of the world and run the Scottish economy into the ground - linkWee Jimmy, followed by McYousaf, is it any wonder Scotland and the SNP are in a state of crisis.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 14:37:39 GMT
Remember the plan to cut up school fire doors because of COVID?
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Post by sandypine on Mar 30, 2024 14:47:30 GMT
In what way does my understanding that there is Scots Law translate into my recognising that Scotland is a country? Now let me think. Does Scottish law mean it refers to England. Or maybe Canada. No matey it refers to Scotland. And for your info there is no such thing as a UK law or a police Officer or a UK court or a UK prison, or warden. So stop being stupid. Now about you explaining how Scotland is not a country A country has to have its own government, the Scottish government is not wholly autonomous as there are aspects that are not devolved from the UK, so it is really not a country in the UN definition.
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Post by om15 on Mar 30, 2024 14:59:49 GMT
My understanding is that is you say or write anything in England which a Scot finds offensive the process can be carried out an Englishmen/women/others can be awarded a non crime hate incident record even if you live in Essex. Sunak needs to pass a law on Tuesday to block this crap, but he won't, which is why he will be chucked out in October.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 15:23:44 GMT
Not sure I agree about the football. Hard to think of any players that would make the England squad. It might be a good idea to abolish the four national FAs though, they have long been a bone of contention at EUFA and FIFA. I absolutely would abolish the four FAs, I would have an integrated league. Scottish Welsh and English teams would compete in the same leagues. Northern Irish too if they're good enough. But in the world cup our best players in a team for our united country.
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