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Post by witchfinder on Mar 24, 2024 11:13:38 GMT
There needs to be incentives to cycling for so many reasons, because cycling produces no polution, because cycling uses no fossil fuels, because cycling is good for us, improves health and the more people who walk or cycle takes strain off our NHS.
Polution is a serious problem in most town and city centres, the noticeable effects are asthma and breathing difficulties, and the less noticeable problems are other deseases caused by toxins.
It makes sense in every way to dis-incentivise car travel, and incentivise travel by public transport, walking and cycling.
Like everywhere else, we are slowly moving in the direction of more, and better public transport, new tram systems, more cycling paths and lanes. Public transport in London has been hugely improved, with more underground network, new lines, more bus routes, joined up timetables and offers.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 24, 2024 11:36:11 GMT
There needs to be incentives to cycling for so many reasons, because cycling produces no polution, because cycling uses no fossil fuels, because cycling is good for us, improves health and the more people who walk or cycle takes strain off our NHS. Polution is a serious problem in most town and city centres, the noticeable effects are asthma and breathing difficulties, and the less noticeable problems are other deseases caused by toxins. It makes sense in every way to dis-incentivise car travel, and incentivise travel by public transport, walking and cycling. Like everywhere else, we are slowly moving in the direction of more, and better public transport, new tram systems, more cycling paths and lanes. Public transport in London has been hugely improved, with more underground network, new lines, more bus routes, joined up timetables and offers. What pollution FFS fiddles? The only pollution we have in this neck of the woods are the licra louts who seem to think they are above the law.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 24, 2024 11:46:34 GMT
I'm pretty sure I've got that on my house insurance ,not that I ride a bike . And yes everyone using the road should be registered and insured Like pedestrians? If they jaywalk into the road and damage my car panels, they should be made criminally responsible for the damage. They should be put in their place. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 24, 2024 11:48:11 GMT
There needs to be incentives to cycling for so many reasons, because cycling produces no polution, because cycling uses no fossil fuels, because cycling is good for us, improves health and the more people who walk or cycle takes strain off our NHS. Polution is a serious problem in most town and city centres, the noticeable effects are asthma and breathing difficulties, and the less noticeable problems are other deseases caused by toxins. It makes sense in every way to dis-incentivise car travel, and incentivise travel by public transport, walking and cycling. Like everywhere else, we are slowly moving in the direction of more, and better public transport, new tram systems, more cycling paths and lanes. Public transport in London has been hugely improved, with more underground network, new lines, more bus routes, joined up timetables and offers. Another eco warrior fails to take the eco cost of producing into account. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 24, 2024 11:51:10 GMT
There needs to be incentives to cycling for so many reasons, because cycling produces no polution, because cycling uses no fossil fuels, because cycling is good for us, improves health and the more people who walk or cycle takes strain off our NHS. Polution is a serious problem in most town and city centres, the noticeable effects are asthma and breathing difficulties, and the less noticeable problems are other deseases caused by toxins. It makes sense in every way to dis-incentivise car travel, and incentivise travel by public transport, walking and cycling. Like everywhere else, we are slowly moving in the direction of more, and better public transport, new tram systems, more cycling paths and lanes. Public transport in London has been hugely improved, with more underground network, new lines, more bus routes, joined up timetables and offers. Another eco warrior fails to take the eco cost of producing into account. Been a proponent of travel which is cleaner and healthier, better for congestion and better for polution, does not make someone an "eco-warrier", its just common sense. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 24, 2024 12:09:46 GMT
Another eco warrior fails to take the eco cost of producing into account. Been a proponent of travel which is cleaner and healthier, better for congestion and better for polution, does not make someone an "eco-warrier", its just common sense.When have the ECO nuts ever used common sense fiddles. They rely on the rantings of a spoilt snotty nosed kid FFS |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 24, 2024 13:27:30 GMT
Another eco warrior fails to take the eco cost of producing into account. Been a proponent of travel which is cleaner and healthier, better for congestion and better for polution, does not make someone an "eco-warrier", its just common sense. True. It makes them an eco worrier. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2024 14:28:14 GMT
Walking I think is a pretty safe mode of travel so I think we can leave pedestrians out of it . Joggers on the other hand are a menace and should be insured as well as being made to wear a sandwich board advertising the nearest park where they should be running anyway . Never understood why these feckers want to run up and down the high street when there is a perfectly good park to do it in . I was being a bit silly, but pedestrians have number one priority using the roads. We can't go mowing them down at any opportunity, and, as JoG suggests they can cause damage to property and cyclists by not looking where they are going. An awful lot of walkers seem to be distracted by phone screens, also they are plugged into the audio, so would maybe not hear an uninsured cyclist coming. I don't think cyclists need insurance until they reach the kinetic energy of a car doing 15mph. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 24, 2024 15:39:50 GMT
It isn't the road cyclists I have a problem with, that's where they should be. It's the ones cycling on the pavements. They should have their cycling proficiency certificate confiscated.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 24, 2024 17:16:18 GMT
They should also pay road tax and get an MOT to ensure their brakes are compliant, have adequate tread on their tyres, and check for chain lube. When I was a child and too young to use anything with a motor on it on the road, I went down to the local dump one day and got a scrap lawnmower which I got the engine off and built my own mode of transport. Adults told me, oh you can't use that on the road or the police will pick you up, but again I had a solution. I mapped the whole area our via the footpaths, and it turned out you could get right into town just by a series of footpaths albeit you had to zoom across a few roads. It was extremely loud and pretty fast, so could outrun pedestrians with their dogs. I got chased once but got away. I bet you would have loved me when I was younger! |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 24, 2024 17:50:31 GMT
...Polution is a serious problem in most town and city centres... No it's not. Perhaps you should get out more. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 24, 2024 18:24:39 GMT
I agree with witchfinder - I think as many people as possible should get out of their cars onto pushbikes, trains and buses.
Anything that leaves the roads less congested for me is a great idea.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 24, 2024 20:03:48 GMT
I'm a motorcyclist, you're all in my way.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 24, 2024 20:40:43 GMT
They should also pay road tax and get an MOT to ensure their brakes are compliant, have adequate tread on their tyres, and check for chain lube. When I was a child and too young to use anything with a motor on it on the road, I went down to the local dump one day and got a scrap lawnmower which I got the engine off and built my own mode of transport. Adults told me, oh you can't use that on the road or the police will pick you up, but again I had a solution. I mapped the whole area our via the footpaths, and it turned out you could get right into town just by a series of footpaths albeit you had to zoom across a few roads. It was extremely loud and pretty fast, so could outrun pedestrians with their dogs. I got chased once but got away. I bet you would have loved me when I was younger! You might as well have bought a cheap moped. Afaik it’s still illegal to take out any petrol driven vehicle without insurance and licence . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 24, 2024 20:57:46 GMT
When I was a child and too young to use anything with a motor on it on the road, I went down to the local dump one day and got a scrap lawnmower which I got the engine off and built my own mode of transport. Adults told me, oh you can't use that on the road or the police will pick you up, but again I had a solution. I mapped the whole area our via the footpaths, and it turned out you could get right into town just by a series of footpaths albeit you had to zoom across a few roads. It was extremely loud and pretty fast, so could outrun pedestrians with their dogs. I got chased once but got away. I bet you would have loved me when I was younger! You might as well have bought a cheap moped. Afaik it’s still illegal to take out any petrol driven vehicle without insurance and licence . I only had what I earnt on a paper round. We had to scrounge and scavenge the rest. The local dump was a full of stuff you could get working with a bit of the old tinkering. After that I built a mk 2 which I managed to make in school break times by asking the metalwork teacher kindly. He was on my side! |
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