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Post by jonksy on Mar 21, 2024 17:12:01 GMT
They all got fucked off because they were traitors to democracy, trying to overturn the will of the people by cancelling Brexit, the only one who stood up for Brexit was Johnson, and look what they've done to him for his honesty and loyalty to the voters.
Even right to this very day 8 years down the line the Remainers are still plotting to rejoin the EU, even though they've witnessed what treacherous people they are, Macron still punishing us by sending over all his illegal migrants ... that will teach us a lesson The dirty little scumbag.
Honesty? Boris Johnson? Are you really that deluded as to actually believe Johnson was toppled because of his honesty? You know that sensible people will be laughing at you for that one? lol Good to see you are still smarting over the referendum srb... Fucking priceless watching you in mourning over your beloved EUSSR.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 17:12:06 GMT
Bring on Proportional Representation Tories 123 Labour 286 LimpDs 58 Reform 97 Green 52 SNP and others 34 Labour 524 sounds superb, for them. It won't happen. If we actually had proportional representation voting intentions as measured by polls would also change, with probably much less support for the two main parties and rather more for all the others. Which is why the two main parties are so opposed to it. It allows them to get away with telling people that a vote for anyone but them is a wasted vote. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 21, 2024 17:12:45 GMT
You seem to think it's only the Tories who will suffer at the hands of Reform, between now and the GE politics can change, it only takes one bad piece of press to change the fortunes of Labour, and they have many skeletons in the cupboard, here's another scenario a skeleton pops out of the Labour cupboard and turns voters to Reform, so if Tory voters and Labour voters all turn to Reform that will dash any hopes of a Labour landslide victory, which most likely will force a coalition, and I wouldn't rule the Tories out of winning yet. Labour has never been less left wing than it is now, whilst Reform is an obvious naked appeal to hard line right wingers. Realistically, no Labour supporter is going to desert Labour because it is not right wing enough. Any such person would never have been a Labour supporter in the first place. Anyone deserting Labour is likely to be doing so because it is not progressive enough. These people are never going to go to a bunch of hard right headbangers. They are more likely to vote Green or something. Reform as a hardline right wing party is inevitably going to attract far more Tories than Labour supporters. To think otherwise is deluding yourself. The Lib-dems, the greens are has-beens, fresh blood has entered in to politics and this time they can't be closed down for being racist fascist far-right, that ship has sailed, trying to close down any party that isn't a woke snowflake lefty diverse signalling follower, they are trying to close Reform using the same old same old tactic, but people are far more wiser now, even the left woke signalers are the ones shouting loudest at their little middle England rural areas having to put up with those 'ghastly' illegal migrants.
LOL....... They typical old lefties true to form, the double standard hypocrites ******ALL MIGRANTS ARE WELCOME TO THE UK****** as long as you don't put the fuckers anywhere near we live.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 21, 2024 17:13:52 GMT
They all got fucked off because they were traitors to democracy, trying to overturn the will of the people by cancelling Brexit, the only one who stood up for Brexit was Johnson, and look what they've done to him for his honesty and loyalty to the voters.
Even right to this very day 8 years down the line the Remainers are still plotting to rejoin the EU, even though they've witnessed what treacherous people they are, Macron still punishing us by sending over all his illegal migrants ... that will teach us a lesson The dirty little scumbag.
Honesty? Boris Johnson? Are you really that deluded as to actually believe Johnson was toppled because of his honesty?
You know that sensible people will be laughing at you for that one? lol Yeah, well you wont be one of them then. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 17:18:35 GMT
Honesty? Boris Johnson? Are you really that deluded as to actually believe Johnson was toppled because of his honesty? You know that sensible people will be laughing at you for that one? lol Good to see you are still smarting over the referendum srb... Fucking priceless watching you in mourning over your beloved EUSSR.... No such entity exists. There is however something called the EU, which I neither love nor hate but do recognise as inevitably our largest trading partner so it makes no sense to be hostile towards it. Besides, Johnson's serial dishonesty was so much larger than the EU debate, and permeated his entire public and private conduct whilst in office, about almost everything. The straw that eventually broke the camel's back was him ignoring known complaints about a Tory MP's sexual misconduct and indeed then yet again lying about it. Which was nothing at all to do with the EU but is what finished him in the end. The final straw after partygate, which again highlighted his dishonesty but which had nothing to do with the EU. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 21, 2024 17:38:53 GMT
Realistically, no Labour supporter is going to desert Labour because it is not right wing enough. Any such person would never have been a Labour supporter in the first place. Anyone deserting Labour is likely to be doing so because it is not progressive enough. These people are never going to go to a bunch of hard right headbangers. They are more likely to vote Green or something. Reform as a hardline right wing party is inevitably going to attract far more Tories than Labour supporters. To think otherwise is deluding yourself. The Red Wall collapse in 2019 says otherwise, Shrieks. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 21, 2024 17:42:01 GMT
Besides, Johnson's serial dishonesty was so much larger than the EU debate, and permeated his entire public and private conduct whilst in office, about almost everything. The straw that eventually broke the camel's back was him ignoring known complaints about a Tory MP's sexual misconduct and indeed then yet again lying about it. Which was nothing at all to do with the EU but is what finished him in the end. The final straw after partygate, which again highlighted his dishonesty but which had nothing to do with the EU. But outside of the rabid left no one really gives a toss about any of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 20:09:58 GMT
Besides, Johnson's serial dishonesty was so much larger than the EU debate, and permeated his entire public and private conduct whilst in office, about almost everything. The straw that eventually broke the camel's back was him ignoring known complaints about a Tory MP's sexual misconduct and indeed then yet again lying about it. Which was nothing at all to do with the EU but is what finished him in the end. The final straw after partygate, which again highlighted his dishonesty but which had nothing to do with the EU. But outside of the rabid left no one really gives a toss about any of that. Actually, quite a lot of people outside the rabid right do. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 20:11:16 GMT
Realistically, no Labour supporter is going to desert Labour because it is not right wing enough. Any such person would never have been a Labour supporter in the first place. Anyone deserting Labour is likely to be doing so because it is not progressive enough. These people are never going to go to a bunch of hard right headbangers. They are more likely to vote Green or something. Reform as a hardline right wing party is inevitably going to attract far more Tories than Labour supporters. To think otherwise is deluding yourself. The Red Wall collapse in 2019 says otherwise, Shrieks. That is because they wanted Brexit, not the rest of the right wing crap.....as Liz Truss soon discovered. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 21, 2024 20:11:59 GMT
But outside of the rabid left no one really gives a toss about any of that. Actually, quite a lot of people outside the rabid right do. An 80 seat majority says otherwise. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 21, 2024 20:14:30 GMT
The Red Wall collapse in 2019 says otherwise, Shrieks. That is because they wanted Brexit, not the rest of the right wing crap.....as Liz Truss soon discovered. Yep, Brexit. And Boris. And sensible, right wing policies.
Sadly, the Tories imploded and took them right back where they started from.
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 21, 2024 20:17:41 GMT
That is because they wanted Brexit, not the rest of the right wing crap.....as Liz Truss soon discovered. Yep, Brexit. And Boris. And sensible, right wing policies.
Sadly, the Tories imploded and took them right back where they started from.
Blimey, I remember people saying "get Brexit done", and saying "Not Corbyn". I don't remember anyone saying run down public services. You have a different recollection to me. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 21, 2024 20:24:31 GMT
The Red Wall collapse in 2019 says otherwise, Shrieks. That is because they wanted Brexit, not the rest of the right wing crap.....as Liz Truss soon discovered. Honestly, anyone who seriously thinks the government from 2019, even before 2019, were 'right wing' doesn't understand what right & left wing are. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 20:40:20 GMT
Actually, quite a lot of people outside the rabid right do. An 80 seat majority says otherwise. As was obvious at the time that was because of Brexit. Polling tells a very different story now. Let's see how big a majority the Tories get this year (guffaw) and how many seats Reform get (massive guffaw). Care to place any bets? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 20:43:37 GMT
Yep, Brexit. And Boris. And sensible, right wing policies.
Sadly, the Tories imploded and took them right back where they started from.
Blimey, I remember people saying "get Brexit done", and saying "Not Corbyn". I don't remember anyone saying run down public services. You have a different recollection to me. His recollections are filtered through a prism which assumes everybody thinks and votes for the same reasons he does. If he thinks the struggling working classes are hankering after yet more austerity in combination with neo-liberal economics, and even further cuts in public services, he clearly needs to get out more. |
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