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Post by Pacifico on Mar 20, 2024 8:34:36 GMT
Perhaps we need to be more like the Germans and report the nationality of the suspects in crimes?..
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 20, 2024 8:50:32 GMT
Perhaps we need to be more like the Germans and report the nationality of the suspects in crimes?.. They'd never get away with that over here. Could you imagine how many pearl clutchers would come out the closet screaming racist if authorities did that? They need to continue to peddle the lie that multiculturalism is to everyone's benefit (what that is, I'm still not sure tbh), namely because the horse has already fucking bolted! |
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Post by see2 on Mar 20, 2024 9:07:42 GMT
Perhaps we need to be more like the Germans and report the nationality of the suspects in crimes?.. They'd never get away with that over here. Could you imagine how many pearl clutchers would come out the closet screaming racist if authorities did that? They need to continue to peddle the lie that multiculturalism is to everyone's benefit (what that is, I'm still not sure tbh), namely because the horse has already fucking bolted! Yes the stable doors are wide open. 13 years of Tory domination hasn't helped. In the absence of migrant / asylum control it is a case of make the best of it until some sort of control is reached. I don't recall anyone coming up with an answer so far. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 20, 2024 9:39:07 GMT
They'd never get away with that over here. Could you imagine how many pearl clutchers would come out the closet screaming racist if authorities did that? They need to continue to peddle the lie that multiculturalism is to everyone's benefit (what that is, I'm still not sure tbh), namely because the horse has already fucking bolted! Yes the stable doors are wide open. 13 years of Tory domination hasn't helped. In the absence of migrant / asylum control it is a case of make the best of it until some sort of control is reached. I don't recall anyone coming up with an answer so far. It was your Dad, Tony who opened the gates up first. The country has never been the same since. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 20, 2024 10:49:19 GMT
I think the problem is that there are too many "chiefs". Who's meant to be responsible for the mess that London has become? Is it Sadiq Khan who's the Mayor of London (and therefore London crime commissioner) or is it the head of the Met (Mark Rowley)? Or is it the Home Secretary (Cleverly) or even the PM? It seems to be Khan who's pulling the strings - and being allowed to do it by the other three, who are afraid to offend the muslims. And Khan is a hard-line muslim who is intent on completely changing the character of London. Khan will be very happy if the remaining few whites and Jews move out of London. He's intent on making it Londonistan - a cesspit just like any other muslim large city. That'll be "job done" for Khan. Lee Anderson was dead right that Khan is is controlled by the "islamists" - he is one. Well that is part of the problem nationwide In South Wales / Gwent (two separate forces, not sure which it was) we had a chief constable accused of corruptly burying a councillor's parking tickets which led to his "resignation" on "health grounds" literally ten minutes before the tribunal was due to strip him of his rank. I had just parked the car in the office car park on the way to start the afternoon shift when the local radip announced his resignation
His replacement was far more interested in finding someone to wave pride flags and prance down streets than finding people to feel collars, and for that reason came under significant fire from our first police and crime commissioner, a former policeman standing as an independent.
In pretty much the same way as Donald Trump ran into a wall of lefty opposition, so our PCC found his attempts to give us a force that actually caught criminals were shot down by a wall of (largely red and pink) flak. The Labour party nominated his replacement and we've been in socialist powered hell ever since
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 20, 2024 14:36:40 GMT
White flight. I left about 15 years ago when it began to feel like a foreign country. Ha ha another immigrant moaning about immigration in this Country lol Ironic |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 20, 2024 14:37:25 GMT
Perhaps we need to be more like the Germans and report the nationality of the suspects in crimes?.. That would be a Good idea . |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 20, 2024 15:07:55 GMT
"Fact check: has Sadiq Khan really overseen a crime surge in London?" "According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally." "When it comes to antisocial behaviour, the crime survey shows London has one of the lowest rates. In the year to September 2023, just 26.4% of people said they’d witnessed or experienced antisocial behaviour, compared with 34.2% across England and Wales" "The murder rate in London has also dropped in recent years. Early figures suggest 110 murders were recorded by the Metropolitan police in 2023 – broadly in line with 2022. That’s down from a peak of 153 in 2019, and is also lower than the 120 recorded in 2015 – Boris Johnson’s last full year as mayor." "Stabbings in London are at a lower rate than before the pandemic, but still higher than the national average" "'Under Sadiq Khan, gun crime has soared by 2,500% in just one year,' claimed Tottenham Conservative Association – several of whose members have stood as Tory candidates in local elections – in a recent post on X. It referred to the scandal as the “Khan crime wave”. The statistic was repeated in a Daily Telegraph article in January. The figure is shocking – and untrue. It originated in a flawed analysis of Home Office data by the Daily Mail, which later retracted the claim and acknowledged its error. The latest statistics, for the year ending March 2023, show there were 12 firearm offences for every 100,000 residents in London. That puts it behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland (which had the most gun crime for every 100,000 people: 33 offences). In the past couple of decades, gun crime has fallen across England and Wales – and London has done particularly well on this front." www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonStatistics only tell half the story ,the lived experience is somewhat different . Living in London it is accepted there will be certain levels of anti social behaviour or indeed what is classed as anti social in a town or village could well be classed as normal society in the City . I also think Londoners are more likely to confront or ignore anti social behaviour rather than report it . We have pretty much accepted the police are uninterested in low level crime . The lockdown has thrown the stats out of kilter , crime was down across the board from 2020 onward ,even so recorded crime is not the same as actual crime , one sure way to reduce crime figures is to not report nor record it . I think London has had a bit of both . |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 20, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
"Fact check: has Sadiq Khan really overseen a crime surge in London?" "According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally." "When it comes to antisocial behaviour, the crime survey shows London has one of the lowest rates. In the year to September 2023, just 26.4% of people said they’d witnessed or experienced antisocial behaviour, compared with 34.2% across England and Wales" "The murder rate in London has also dropped in recent years. Early figures suggest 110 murders were recorded by the Metropolitan police in 2023 – broadly in line with 2022. That’s down from a peak of 153 in 2019, and is also lower than the 120 recorded in 2015 – Boris Johnson’s last full year as mayor." "Stabbings in London are at a lower rate than before the pandemic, but still higher than the national average" "'Under Sadiq Khan, gun crime has soared by 2,500% in just one year,' claimed Tottenham Conservative Association – several of whose members have stood as Tory candidates in local elections – in a recent post on X. It referred to the scandal as the “Khan crime wave”. The statistic was repeated in a Daily Telegraph article in January. The figure is shocking – and untrue. It originated in a flawed analysis of Home Office data by the Daily Mail, which later retracted the claim and acknowledged its error. The latest statistics, for the year ending March 2023, show there were 12 firearm offences for every 100,000 residents in London. That puts it behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland (which had the most gun crime for every 100,000 people: 33 offences). In the past couple of decades, gun crime has fallen across England and Wales – and London has done particularly well on this front." www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonStatistics only tell half the story ,the lived experience is somewhat different . Living in London it is accepted there will be certain levels of anti social behaviour or indeed what is classed as anti social in a town or village could well be classed as normal society in the City . I also think Londoners are more likely to confront or ignore anti social behaviour rather than report it . We have pretty much accepted the police are uninterested in low level crime . The lockdown has thrown the stats out of kilter , crime was down across the board from 2020 onward ,even so recorded crime is not the same as actual crime , one sure way to reduce crime figures is to not report nor record it . I think London has had a bit of both . Well yes but everyone's lived experience is different. I personally know people who live / have lived in London who's lived experience of it is in a different universe to the crime infested hellhole depicted by Khan's critics. I'm not dismissing yours or theirs lived experience, just saying that I consider statistical data to be more reliable (If imperfect) indicator of the situation in London. |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 20, 2024 15:30:20 GMT
Statistics only tell half the story ,the lived experience is somewhat different . Living in London it is accepted there will be certain levels of anti social behaviour or indeed what is classed as anti social in a town or village could well be classed as normal society in the City . I also think Londoners are more likely to confront or ignore anti social behaviour rather than report it . We have pretty much accepted the police are uninterested in low level crime . The lockdown has thrown the stats out of kilter , crime was down across the board from 2020 onward ,even so recorded crime is not the same as actual crime , one sure way to reduce crime figures is to not report nor record it . I think London has had a bit of both . Well yes but everyone's lived experience is different. I personally know people who live / have lived in London who's lived experience of it is in a different universe to the crime infested hellhole depicted by Khan's critics. I'm not dismissing yours or theirs lived experience, just saying that I consider statistical data to be more reliable (If imperfect) indicator of the situation in London. Well you can add me to the list ,in my 60 years in London I've come across very little crime worth mentioning . But then I don't live in the worst parts of it . |
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Post by piglet on Mar 20, 2024 17:03:08 GMT
To accept statistics as true, from anyone is a laff.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 21, 2024 8:06:48 GMT
To accept statistics as true, from anyone is a laff. I'm not saying statistics are the gospel truth but I think they're a lot more reliable indicator of what's happening on a city wide scale than headlines of biased newspapers, personal anecdote or gut feeling. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 21, 2024 8:10:33 GMT
To accept statistics as true, from anyone is a laff. I'm not saying statistics are the gospel truth but I think they're a lot more reliable indicator of what's happening on a city wide scale than headlines of biased newspapers, personal anecdote or gut feeling. People do not need lefty bullshit statistics to see the rise in crime under Khan. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 21, 2024 8:58:09 GMT
I'm not saying statistics are the gospel truth but I think they're a lot more reliable indicator of what's happening on a city wide scale than headlines of biased newspapers, personal anecdote or gut feeling. People do not need lefty bullsit statistics to see the rise in crime under Khan. Personally I need to see concrete evidence of a rise in crime under Khan rather than the say so of one clearly biased random on the internet. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 21, 2024 9:02:28 GMT
People do not need lefty bullsit statistics to see the rise in crime under Khan. Personally I need to see concrete evidence of a rise in crime under Khan rather than the say so of one clearly biased random on the internet. FFS biased random....Explains why you are so demeted and deluded HH.. |
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