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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 18, 2024 17:42:30 GMT
Next time Tommy Robinson is insulted I expect the lefties to be very sympathetic to him. If he was racially abused, he would still be a victim, regardless of my personal thoughts on him.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 17:43:29 GMT
Next time Tommy Robinson is insulted I expect the lefties to be very sympathetic to him. He tends to be insulted for being a racist prick, not because of his skin colour. You are either too thick or too racist yourself to understand the difference. The fact that you leap to the defence of a well known racist hatemonger tells me all I need to know about where you are coming from. The fact that you are too thick to know it was a sarcastic post tells that you are a virtue signalling idiot .
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 17:44:42 GMT
Next time Tommy Robinson is insulted I expect the lefties to be very sympathetic to him. If he was racially abused, he would still be a victim, regardless of my personal thoughts on him. Are you only a victim if you are racially abused .Not any abuse ?
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 17:50:52 GMT
Maybe one of Abbotts fans will point out where Hester said he hated black women.🙄
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 17:53:51 GMT
You can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. See above where I already addressed this for Shrieky. Wholly ineffectually to any logical mind of course. I put it to you and most of the other usual suspects around here that if a wealthy black man who had donated millions to Labour had been exposed as having said to a bunch of his black mates that Liz Truss was almost enough to make him want to hate all white women and that she ought to be shot, you and the rest of the bottom feeders around here would be gleefully ranting about this unacceptable racism against white people and that if Labour had any integrity at all it should hand back his money immediately. You know you would react that way. I know you would react that way. You know I know you would react that way. Even if you ate tempted to deny it, which would of course just be a lie. And what does this say? It says that you would think very differently about a black man saying this about a white woman than a white man saying this about a black woman. That you and the other knuckle draggers around here seek to minimise or justify or excuse the latter when we all know you'd be all guns blazing if the skin colours were reversed exposes your racism loud and clear. You see, if a black man said that about a white woman I would still be here condemning it. But you would not be here defending him. It is you lot with the double standards exposing your racism. Some of you might well even lack sufficient insight to recognise your own racism, perhaps because it is so ingrained.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 17:57:09 GMT
He tends to be insulted for being a racist prick, not because of his skin colour. You are either too thick or too racist yourself to understand the difference. The fact that you leap to the defence of a well known racist hatemonger tells me all I need to know about where you are coming from. The fact that you are too thick to know it was a sarcastic post tells that you are a virtue signalling idiot . The fact that you cited a well known racist as an example of a victim tells me that you are both an idiot and a racist goon, and probably too stupid to know it.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 17:59:11 GMT
See above where I already addressed this for Shrieky. Wholly ineffectually to any logical mind of course. I put it to you and most of the other usual suspects around here that if a wealthy black man who had donated millions to Labour had been exposed as having said to a bunch of his black mates that Liz Truss was almost enough to make him want to hate all white women and that she ought to be shot, you and the rest of the bottom feeders around here would be gleefully ranting about this unacceptable racism against white people and that if Labour had any integrity at all it should hand back his money immediately. You know you would react that way. I know you would react that way. You know I know you would react that way. Even if you ate tempted to deny it, which would of course just be a lie. And what does this say? It says that you would think very differently about a black man saying this about a white woman than a white man saying this about a black woman. That you and the other knuckle draggers around here seek to minimise or justify or excuse the latter when we all know you'd be all guns blazing if the skin colours were reversed exposes your racism loud and clear. You see, if a black man said that about a white woman I would still be here condemning it. But you would not be here defending him. It is you lot with the double standards exposing your racism. Some of you might well even lack sufficient insight to recognise your own racism, perhaps because it is so ingrained. If a black labour donor said all of that about a female MP known to be racist against blacks , you would be clapping your hands like a performing seal. You lefties would be saying he has a point . Do pretend otherwise .
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Post by wapentake on Mar 18, 2024 18:00:04 GMT
Whoever first adopted the term whataboutery should be shot (see what I did there?) Whataboutery a dishonest ploy to shut down any counter argument and claim the higher ground which when used I’ve always found to be dishonest debate (nothing personal I’ve said this to others) Basically what you’re saying and I’ll use an outrageous example Public figure A who coerced another in to a sexual act and then for the sake of that argument is known to have paid out a large sum and required a NDA signed goes on to say any public figure convicted of rape should be barred from office for life when talking about public figure B. You point the inconsistency out and up pops someone and says you can’t say that it’s whataboutery. That’s really your line here,Hester said something in private but very stupid for someone in his position Abbot was equally stupid and public,you can claim all you like her comments were more subtle but it does amount to hypocrisy to try and justify that. Further I was amused that Harman cried and called for her return to the fold but whilst in her position of power and very apparent hatred for Boris she couldn’t wait to turn the knife on him. Yes Boris was stupid too but there’s a lot of hypocrisy and reason to say ”but what about “much of what goes on in Westminster. I am surprised that someone with your intelligence is joining the usual suspects in defence of the indefensible, in your case attempting to combine whataboutery with minimisation. But then again you did vote for Boris Johnson so I suppose I am expecting too much. Minimisation? What you mean like Abbott claiming Jews don’t suffer lifetime racism,you believe that really? I’m no defender of what’s going on in Gaza but Jews aren’t Nutanyahu and the Middle Easts problems don’t belong here nor do it’s people and their religious wars. Much of our problems are down to Blair and others trying to impose western values and influence and the disaster of pushing the Arab spring,they should’ve been left to make their own way in their own time. Indefensible? Let me ask you the question I’ve put to others ( with no reply) any questions regarding asylum seekers and Stone Age religious values are met with the usual racist tag,anyway to the question,the once liberal Scandinavian societies that opened their doors and were held as the example of this countries shortcomings are now rowing back on a massive error so do you believe those people went from that liberal outlook to now hard right racism or did they learn a lesson our country has to?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 18, 2024 18:01:40 GMT
See above where I already addressed this for Shrieky. Wholly ineffectually to any logical mind of course. I put it to you and most of the other usual suspects around here that if a wealthy black man who had donated millions to Labour had been exposed as having said to a bunch of his black mates that Liz Truss was almost enough to make him want to hate all white women and that she ought to be shot, you and the rest of the bottom feeders around here would be gleefully ranting about this unacceptable racism against white people and that if Labour had any integrity at all it should hand back his money immediately. You know you would react that way. I know you would react that way. You know I know you would react that way. Even if you ate tempted to deny it, which would of course just be a lie. And what does this say? It says that you would think very differently about a black man saying this about a white woman than a white man saying this about a black woman. That you and the other knuckle draggers around here seek to minimise or justify or excuse the latter when we all know you'd be all guns blazing if the skin colours were reversed exposes your racism loud and clear. You see, if a black man said that about a white woman I would still be here condemning it. But you would not be here defending him. It is you lot with the double standards exposing your racism. Some of you might well even lack sufficient insight to recognise your own racism, perhaps because it is so ingrained.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 18:02:26 GMT
The fact that you are too thick to know it was a sarcastic post tells that you are a virtue signalling idiot . The fact that you cited a well known racist as an example of a victim tells me that you are both an idiot and a racist goon, and probably too stupid to know it. Nope . You were too thick to overcome your knee jerk thickness . Now you are to dishonest to admit it. Andrew noted that you can be a racist and a victim too. I reacted to that . Your problem is that you a dimwit who is too thick to understand that you are a dimwit .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 18:04:10 GMT
Maybe one of Abbotts fans will point out where Hester said he hated black women.🙄 Maybe you need to learn to read. "It's like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you're just like… you just want to hate all black women because she's there." In spite of then stating that he did not hate all black women, clearly the above is suggesting that disliking someone of a certain colour is enough to encourage hatred of all people of the same colour. I hate Jimmy Saville.....but unless I were a racist it would never cross my mind to say that he is almost enough to make me want to hate all white men. Though I dont suppose you will even begin to understand. This place is like trying to have an intellectual debate with your average Sun reader a lot of the time, lol
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 18:05:18 GMT
So no lefties willing to tell us where exactly where the man who said that he doesn’t hate black women was racist towards black people then? OK . Where did Hester say that Abbott should be shot because she was black? Any lefties want to try ?
Edit . Mr Angry had a go and failed the first part . Maybe he can try the second .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 18, 2024 18:06:54 GMT
We do not have a functioning democracy when every front page is taken up by tabloid inane gossip. It means the dictators can quietly get on and screw us. Have you noticed some of the poorest countries have the richest people in them? Mexico for example was where the richest man in the world operated from. That's how it is in the Third World. The poverty largely comes about via mass corruption. The papers play a part by talking about things like this. It keep the demos off the trail of what the real business is. Anyway, how to commit genocide without a single bullet: just prescribe puberty blockers and that's the British consigned to history. Remember they started by making them gay. Now today the Tories I hear are trying to crown Mordaunt, who is a keen advocate of the ones prescribing puberty blockers down at the Tavistock. I think what rocked them was someone went to their lawyers and proceeded to go for the kill. More usually they talk about immigrants and the poor, encouraging people to direct their malice at those even more poor and more powerless than themselves. And most of you - including you personally - buy into it lock stock and barrel rather than getting angry at all the ones really in charge. But because this is a racist Tory donor attacking a black left winger, suddenly it is all distraction tactics, because it is something you would all rather agree with than get angry about. Instead you play your part by getting angry at the ones getting angry, doing exactly as they want you to. As the money keeps disappearing into off shore accounts. The thing is, Hester is one of the ones benefitting from mass corruption and will no doubt end up in the Lords, so they are relying on all you useful idiots ranting on his behalf, without you having the first clue that you are the ones being played by the corrupt bastards I think that is far too presumptions of you. It had crossed my mind he may be diddling the system, but right now I have zero evidence of it. I'd look a right plonker if I believed something with zero evidence.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 18:08:59 GMT
Maybe one of Abbotts fans will point out where Hester said he hated black women.🙄 Maybe you need to learn to read. "It's like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you're just like… you just want to hate all black women because she's there." In spite of then stating that he did not hate all black women, clearly the above is suggesting that disliking someone of a certain colour is enough to encourage hatred of all people of the same colour. I hate Jimmy Saville.....but unless I were a racist it would never cross my mind to say that he is almost enough to make me want to hate all white men. Though I dont suppose you will even begin to understand. This place is like trying to have an intellectual debate with your average Sun reader a lot of the time, lol Clearly he clearly said that he didn’t hate black women . Clearly you are the one who can’t read . Clearly he was stating that Abbott was so awful that it made him WANT to hate black women but that he DOESNT . Dimwit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 18:13:05 GMT
Wholly ineffectually to any logical mind of course. I put it to you and most of the other usual suspects around here that if a wealthy black man who had donated millions to Labour had been exposed as having said to a bunch of his black mates that Liz Truss was almost enough to make him want to hate all white women and that she ought to be shot, you and the rest of the bottom feeders around here would be gleefully ranting about this unacceptable racism against white people and that if Labour had any integrity at all it should hand back his money immediately. You know you would react that way. I know you would react that way. You know I know you would react that way. Even if you ate tempted to deny it, which would of course just be a lie. And what does this say? It says that you would think very differently about a black man saying this about a white woman than a white man saying this about a black woman. That you and the other knuckle draggers around here seek to minimise or justify or excuse the latter when we all know you'd be all guns blazing if the skin colours were reversed exposes your racism loud and clear. You see, if a black man said that about a white woman I would still be here condemning it. But you would not be here defending him. It is you lot with the double standards exposing your racism. Some of you might well even lack sufficient insight to recognise your own racism, perhaps because it is so ingrained. If a black labour donor said all of that about a female MP known to be racist against blacks , you would be clapping your hands like a performing seal. You lefties would be saying he has a point . Do pretend otherwise . You are talking absolute shit because you are utterly wrong, at least as far as I am concerned. But if you want to believe that, I cannot stop you. Your ability to believe absolute shit is legendary so I couldnt care less what you think I would do anyway. You are one of the more transparent racists around here, so believing shit to try and make that make sense to your own head is a necessary thing. But when you do find me clapping my hands like a performing seal at racist comments by anyone about anyone, by all means quote the evidence. I have for example been critical of Diane Abbot myself in the past. You see, genuine non-racists tend to have a certain consistency which racists utterly lack because their reactions to situations depend upon skin colour
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