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Post by ratcliff on Mar 12, 2024 9:52:28 GMT
You've dodged yet again , understandable Dodged what? As I posted , understandable as I'm obviously too close to reality and I have tried not to be personal
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 12, 2024 10:10:13 GMT
What on earth are you blathering about now? I sense the last dose of Ritalin may be wearing off... I suggest your ignorance protects you from the truth. You wouldn't know what the truth was if you tripped over it, you're dazzled by the glare of left wing virtue.
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 12, 2024 10:14:26 GMT
Trans men are men but trans women aren't women? Only if you have a warped mind hh. Maybe you should set your bar higher.. So, to summarise your opinion, both trans men and trans women should use the men's bogs? Actually it doesn't particularly matter as there is no legal requirement over which one to use.
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 12, 2024 10:27:35 GMT
Things will change, because they always do Imagine, if in the 1920s someone said that we would have a woman Prime Minister Imagine, what people would have said in the 1960s if someone suggested that one day we will have an Asian, Hindu Prime Minister. In the 1950s and early 1960s 90% of all blackmail offences against men involved their Homosexuality What would people have said when the first migrants arrived from the Caribbean, that in the future we will have black Ministers, senior police officers, judges, top sports people, TV celebreties and news readers. When homosexuality was Decriminalised only 47 years ago, would anyone have believed you if you told them that one day gay people will be able to get married. ? Some posters on here are backwards, regressive, want to take us to the 1950s, these are the same people who would have opposed Votes For Women, the decriminalisation of homosexuality, and they would have opposed the Race Relations Acts. Trans people have not suddenly appeared in recent years, they have always existed, the same as Bisexual people, the same as Lesbians, and the same as gay men, and they always will exist, legal or not, in the open or behind closed doors. 99% of Trans people are not criminals, they are not paedophiles or monsters, the vast majority are people who have an overwhelming belief, physicaly and emotionaly, that they are in the wrong body. Society is changing, we ARE becoming more accepting, and miserable, moaning, backwards bastards who cant see, dont understand, and have only feelings of hate and revultion, will one day find THEY are the minority. None of these want others to accept their pretence that they have changed sex/gender Lesbians dont claim to be men Gays dont claim to be women Bisexuals dont claim to be a different sex It doesn't matter, the same kinds of people on these boards still found their excuses to push back against progress. The excuses back then were that "its not natural", "they are perverts", "our children are not safe" and that "its all part of the moral decline of society". A different minority, different excuses, but the same kind of people Trans people are no more a threat to society than homosexual men and women are, or ever were.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 12, 2024 10:29:23 GMT
As I posted , understandable as I'm obviously too close to reality and I have tried not to be personal You've spectacularly failed to justify your argument. Faking autism well enough to gain a bogus diagnosis might, just might be possible for an adult who has done extensive research and is a phenomenally good actor. The question you haven't addressed is why somebody would try to blag their way into membership of a demographic group that factual evidence shows is hugely disadvantaged? It would be like a rich person trying to con their way into poverty. The next question is how exactly a two or three year old child with speech development delay manages to dupe trained and qualified clinicians? It seems that you've blundered into a subject you know very little about and are now trying to extract yourself and minimise your embarrassment.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 12, 2024 10:37:07 GMT
Which public bathrooms should trans men use in your opinion? The term trans men is a misnomer. A woman cannot become a man . Which public bathroom should a woman claiming to be a man use?
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2024 10:38:02 GMT
Only if you have a warped mind hh. Maybe you should set your bar higher.. So, to summarise your opinion, both trans men and trans women should use the men's bogs?Actually it doesn't particularly matter as there is no legal requirement over which one to use. Nope. Maybe you should try reading my posts again rather than trying to imagine what I think...
Oh so you would be happy then for your wife or daughter to use changing facilites or a toilet with a trans man with a frock? Who is probobaly there only for their own sexual gratification...Those from the left who uphold this bullshit should raise their bar...
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2024 10:39:27 GMT
The term trans men is a misnomer. A woman cannot become a man . Which public bathroom should a woman claiming to be a man use?A womens HH or wait until they get home. Not exactly fucking rocket science is it?
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 12, 2024 10:44:24 GMT
None of these want others to accept their pretence that they have changed sex/gender Lesbians dont claim to be men Gays dont claim to be women Bisexuals dont claim to be a different sex It doesn't matter, the same kinds of people on these boards still found their excuses to push back against progress. The excuses back then were that "its not natural", "they are perverts", "our children are not safe" and that "its all part of the moral decline of society". A different minority, different excuses, but the same kind of people Trans people are no more a threat to society than homosexual men and women are, or ever were. "Tories should fight next election on 'culture wars and trans debate', says Lee Anderson" www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-should-fight-next-election-29211636The whole trans row strikes me as manufactured.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 12, 2024 10:45:18 GMT
Which public bathroom should a woman claiming to be a man use? A womens HH or wait until they get home. Not exactly fucking rocket science is it? So what's to stop a man walking into a women's bathroom and claiming to be a trans man?
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2024 10:46:50 GMT
A womens HH or wait until they get home. Not exactly fucking rocket science is it? So what's to stop a man walking into a women's bathroom and claiming to be a trans man? And what's to stop women beating the crap out of the arsehole for invading their privacy?
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 10:50:16 GMT
Homosexuals used racism to support their campaign to become accepted into the mainstream and now the ‘ Trans’ lobby is using Homosexuals to do the same . However ‘ trans’ are completely different from homosexuals . Homosexuals were about the acceptance of sexual acts and then same sex marriage . The ‘ trans ‘ debate is about abandoning fact and indulging delusion . When the woke lefties accept that ‘ trans’ are not and never going to be the thing they want to be then a serious debate can start to how society can accommodate them .
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 10:51:16 GMT
The term trans men is a misnomer. A woman cannot become a man . Which public bathroom should a woman claiming to be a man use? What ever one that facilitates her biological sex.
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 12, 2024 10:52:41 GMT
Yeah, when you are losing an argument you could always turn to violence... 🙄
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 12, 2024 10:54:54 GMT
We had this issue raised in the local social club where I go for a pint, a small minority of men were not happy that a couple of Trans men were using the ladies toilet.
The committee of the club sought legal advice, and the local police stated that if a person believes they are female, and if that person appears female, then they are entitled to use the female toilets.
So several years on, the Transexuals continue to use the female toilets, no one cares, nothing has happened, the world has not imploded.
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