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Post by buccaneer on Mar 13, 2024 20:53:00 GMT
Who are all the people on these boards who make Trans People an issue ? Same on social media, everywhere you go its "Push Back" or ridicule from the right wing, populists, the Lee Andersons and Priti Patels of this world. Lets try this very simple experiment: I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRANS PEOPLE Do You ? And tell me Einstein, this "push back" hasn't come from nowhere, so why does it exist? |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 21:11:55 GMT
Well I'm assuming a trans woman would have legally changed name after transitioning so calling them Steve wouldn't be telling the truth for starters. Is there legal precedent for people being prosecuted for misgendering? Was Trigger being prejudiced when he called Rodney Dave ? Should we ban “ Onlyfools and horses or just Trigger? He wasn't telling the truth about Rodney. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 13, 2024 21:13:55 GMT
Who are all the people on these boards who make Trans People an issue ? Same on social media, everywhere you go its "Push Back" or ridicule from the right wing, populists, the Lee Andersons and Priti Patels of this world. Lets try this very simple experiment: I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRANS PEOPLE Do You ? And tell me Einstein, this "push back" hasn't come from nowhere, so why does it exist? Push-back, describes the people who opposed the Race Relations Acts of the 1960s and 1970s, the backwards people. In the early 20th century they would have opposed Votes For Women, and in the 18th century they were the people opposed to the abolishion of slavery. Push - back, regressive as opposed to progressive, them that dont want change, the people who say you should be able to call a black person the "N" word, because its freedom of speech. And here we are in the 21st century, and there are still Neanderthals with little brains, who believe its fine to pigeon hole an entire faith due to the actions of a few, its just like Germany all over again in the 1930s, except back then it was the Jews. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 21:22:31 GMT
Was Trigger being prejudiced when he called Rodney Dave ? Should we ban “ Onlyfools and horses or just Trigger? He wasn't telling the truth about Rodney. Getting a bit desperate I see. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 21:47:49 GMT
And tell me Einstein, this "push back" hasn't come from nowhere, so why does it exist? Push-back, describes the people who opposed the Race Relations Acts of the 1960s and 1970s, the backwards people. In the early 20th century they would have opposed Votes For Women, and in the 18th century they were the people opposed to the abolishion of slavery. Push - back, regressive as opposed to progressive, them that dont want change, the people who say you should be able to call a black person the "N" word, because its freedom of speech. And here we are in the 21st century, and there are still Neanderthals with little brains, who believe its fine to pigeon hole an entire faith due to the actions of a few, its just like Germany all over again in the 1930s, except back then it was the Jews. Where would Lefties be without 1930s Germany eh? It’s a strawman and trope oasis to them. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 13, 2024 22:15:59 GMT
It’s not debatable that it’s the truth , it is the truth . Its not debatable that by telling the truth you can be seen as being hostile to the trans delusion . The delusional man might not perceive the act of telling the truth prejudice but almost certainly will. Well I'm assuming a trans woman would have legally changed name after transitioning so calling them Steve wouldn't be telling the truth for starters. Is there legal precedent for people being prosecuted for misgendering? Well we are are now in the twilight world of wokeness where even if you have committed no crime you can still be recorded as committing a 'non-crime hate incident'..so anything is possible..  If we are unlucky we will end up like Scotland - In Scotland from April 1st, if you’re offended by a comment made online or heard in private conversation, you can anonymously call 999 to get someone charged and potentially imprisoned up to 7 years for a hate crime that has no legal definition. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 0:11:49 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 14, 2024 6:40:52 GMT
And tell me Einstein, this "push back" hasn't come from nowhere, so why does it exist? Push-back, describes the people who opposed the Race Relations Acts of the 1960s and 1970s, the backwards people. In the early 20th century they would have opposed Votes For Women, and in the 18th century they were the people opposed to the abolishion of slavery. Push - back, regressive as opposed to progressive, them that dont want change, the people who say you should be able to call a black person the "N" word, because its freedom of speech. And here we are in the 21st century, and there are still Neanderthals with little brains, who believe its fine to pigeon hole an entire faith due to the actions of a few, its just like Germany all over again in the 1930s, except back then it was the Jews. You are disingenuously conflating 1930's Germany with trans mob demands. It's push-back is towards a trans mob demanding the rest of society appeases to their demands, of what to call them, where they believe they can go, and also pisses on the hard-won rights of women. Allowing men essentially to piss on the rights of women with their demands is regressive. What about women like JK Rowling who don't agree with this pandering that encroaches on their rights, do they not get a voice to say 'no' or do you just accuse her and the many other women like her of being little Hitlers? |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 14, 2024 7:20:56 GMT
Well I'm assuming a trans woman would have legally changed name after transitioning so calling them Steve wouldn't be telling the truth for starters. Is there legal precedent for people being prosecuted for misgendering? Was Trigger being prejudiced when he called Rodney Dave ? Should we ban “ Onlyfools and horses or just Trigger?  |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 10:01:48 GMT
And tell me Einstein, this "push back" hasn't come from nowhere, so why does it exist? Push-back, describes the people who opposed the Race Relations Acts of the 1960s and 1970s, the backwards people. In the early 20th century they would have opposed Votes For Women, and in the 18th century they were the people opposed to the abolishion of slavery. Push - back, regressive as opposed to progressive, them that dont want change, the people who say you should be able to call a black person the "N" word, because its freedom of speech. And here we are in the 21st century, and there are still Neanderthals with little brains, who believe its fine to pigeon hole an entire faith due to the actions of a few, its just like Germany all over again in the 1930s, except back then it was the Jews. I think most people supported the Race Relations Acts and Equality Acts and ignored the warnings about the dangers of said acts. Here we are some 50 years later reaping the rewards of those acts and the rampant divisions and inequalities they create. Citizens are no longer citizens of equal worth in the eyes of the country, other citizens and the law, they are an identity or a range of identities that have worth on their own merits and rights and considerations as identities. The Citizen is just an also ran in this mish mash of general stupidity. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 14, 2024 11:42:36 GMT
The "Race Relations Act 1965"; "Race Relations Act 1968"; "Race Relations Act 1976" Were Act of Parliament in response to widespread discrimination, aimed mainly at black people. The very first Act for example outlawed pubs, cafes, restaurants and other public places from refusing resrvice based on colour.
The first Act also outlawed employers from barring applicants for jobs based on colour, and made it illegal to advertise property for rent like this >> "Irish and Coloured Need Not Apply".
Sometimes there are people in British society who are so backwards, so out of date, so stupid and not very bright, that it requires laws to force them to act and behave in a responsible, dignified and acceptable way.
You HAVE TO accept that people with a different skin colour deserve the same chances and opportunities as you.
You have to accept that any person who is not Christian, whether they be a Muslim, Jew, Jain, Sikh or Athiest MUST be given the same opportunities in society and life, equaly.
The attitudes of Britons in wartime towards homosexual people were backwards, out of date, highly discriminatory, leading to mental illnesses, blackmail and suicides. The acclaimed scientist Alan Turing is now credited for saving the lives of thousands, and for probably shortening the war, a true patriot who took his own life, simply because he was homosexual and society rejected him.
Trans people have always existed, and they will continue to exist ( no matter what anyone believes on these boards ), probably the very last minority to be properly accepted.
A forward thinking person, a progressive, would conclude that we should create some sensible rules, define what a Trans person is, define what is acceptable, recognise areas that COULD compromise the safety of women, and create some laws. Alternatively, we can do what some on these boards seem to want to do .... Ignore Trans people, ridicule them, and hope they will go away.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 12:08:16 GMT
“A forward thinking person, a progressive, would conclude that we should create some sensible rules, define what a Trans person is, define what is acceptable, recognise areas that COULD compromise the safety of women, and create some laws. Alternatively, we can do what some on these boards seem to want to do .... Ignore Trans people, ridicule them, and hope they will go away.”
A forward thinking person , in fact a person that hasn’t swallowed the woke propaganda whole , would conclude that you can do all of the above without the ridiculous claim that the solution is to define ‘ trans’ men as women by default .
For instance the concept of Lady boys is quite acceptable in other countries .
Another point to recognise is that trans ‘ women’ moving into real women’s sport is far more of a problem to real women than trans men moving into real men’s sport .
All if this has been pointed out to the woke lefties here and other places . They ignore it and just carry in spouting the cult of woke doctrine .
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 12:26:31 GMT
The "Race Relations Act 1965"; "Race Relations Act 1968"; "Race Relations Act 1976" Were Act of Parliament in response to widespread discrimination, aimed mainly at black people. The very first Act for example outlawed pubs, cafes, restaurants and other public places from refusing resrvice based on colour. The first Act also outlawed employers from barring applicants for jobs based on colour, and made it illegal to advertise property for rent like this >> "Irish and Coloured Need Not Apply". Sometimes there are people in British society who are so backwards, so out of date, so stupid and not very bright, that it requires laws to force them to act and behave in a responsible, dignified and acceptable way. You HAVE TO accept that people with a different skin colour deserve the same chances and opportunities as you. You have to accept that any person who is not Christian, whether they be a Muslim, Jew, Jain, Sikh or Athiest MUST be given the same opportunities in society and life, equaly. The attitudes of Britons in wartime towards homosexual people were backwards, out of date, highly discriminatory, leading to mental illnesses, blackmail and suicides. The acclaimed scientist Alan Turing is now credited for saving the lives of thousands, and for probably shortening the war, a true patriot who took his own life, simply because he was homosexual and society rejected him. Trans people have always existed, and they will continue to exist ( no matter what anyone believes on these boards ), probably the very last minority to be properly accepted. A forward thinking person, a progressive, would conclude that we should create some sensible rules, define what a Trans person is, define what is acceptable, recognise areas that COULD compromise the safety of women, and create some laws. Alternatively, we can do what some on these boards seem to want to do .... Ignore Trans people, ridicule them, and hope they will go away. Well broadly I agree but what has transpired is a separation out so the demands of Equity result in all sorts of preferences and considerations being applied. The race laws were to stop discrimination on the direct basis of race and now they result in discrimination directly because of race because there is a general push to be inclusive and to see equality of opportunity, the only measure of which is equality of outcome, a nonsense as we see daily. When first mooted the race laws had an expectation for most people to be colour blind in that the skin colour was of no consequence. Now as a volte face skin colour has become intrinsically important for consideration of many aspects of society. Positive action, EDI and the Equality Duty make possible and in many ways demand that skin colour is a consideration in all appointments and for the police skin colour brings forth the McPherson Recommendations of possible victims, witnesses and perpetrators that they must consider the probabilities of how a particular community has been affected by society and balance reactions to them on that basis. Schools are now teaching that skin colour is a basis on which to judge people within society and their relative privileges, advantages and disadvantages and how in many ways they think and behave. So far we have created a multitude of 'sensible rules' that have resulted in division and fracturing of our society, We do not need more rules we need fewer as the more rules you make the more rules you have to make to enforce the rules you have and they result in separation. No one is being ignored but the demands affect the rights of others and as always that is the eternal problem. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 14, 2024 12:28:55 GMT
Push-back, describes the people who opposed the Race Relations Acts of the 1960s and 1970s, the backwards people. In the early 20th century they would have opposed Votes For Women, and in the 18th century they were the people opposed to the abolishion of slavery. Push - back, regressive as opposed to progressive, them that dont want change, the people who say you should be able to call a black person the "N" word, because its freedom of speech. And here we are in the 21st century, and there are still Neanderthals with little brains, who believe its fine to pigeon hole an entire faith due to the actions of a few, its just like Germany all over again in the 1930s, except back then it was the Jews. Where would Lefties be without 1930s Germany eh? It’s a strawman and trope oasis to them. It's yer Slippery Slope™theory innit.
Let people say rude things about Worthy Oriental Gentlemens and next thing you know the transports will be rolling again to the East and we'll have another six million stiffs on our hands.
In the words of Chairman Alf, 'It stands to reason, don't it?'
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 14, 2024 13:27:13 GMT
No, its not a "Straw Man" or a slippery slope, it is what it is, and it is a direct attempt to demonize and villify an entire religion or faith. This is no different to how it all began for Jewish people in the 1930s.
Some of the excuses behind it may be different, but many are no different.
THEY are "taking over", THEY "are trying to change our culture", THEY "are trying to force their religion on us"
THEY are "trying to force their laws on us", "Its a cult", "they hate this country"
In the 1930s the Jews were blamed for our economic woes, in Germany the Jews were depicted as been Anti German, and whilst Aryan Germans were depicted as poor, and suffering from the Great Depression, the Jews were depicted as been fat, rich, greedy, making money from the poor.
The kinds of outrageous, false claims as spewed out by Lee Anderson can easily be compared to what politicians were saying in the 1930s about Jews, and Anderson and everyone like him are formenting hate and division, and its potentially explosive.
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