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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 7, 2024 16:11:32 GMT
£80,000 electric Jaguar rammed off road after brakes fail at 100mphA driver sped down a motorway at 100mph for 35 minutes without any brakes after his electric Jaguar I-Pace malfunctioned. Nathan Owen, 31, was travelling on the M62 yesterday when the brakes on his £80,000 car began to fail – for the second time in three months. The crisis support worker was forced to weave between traffic without braking for more than half an hour until the electric vehicle began to run out of power (After half an hour lol) and police were able to force it to stop. metro.co.uk/2024/03/07/80-000-electric-jaguar-rammed-off-road-brakes-fail-100mph-20416713/?ico=mosaic_newsThen it burst into flames lol, well OK that may have been artistic licence on my part, but even the most enthusiastic supporters of EV's must agree, it doesn't look good does it.
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2024 16:32:46 GMT
That's Jaguar quality and after sales service for you plus, as you acknowledge, some untruth on your part...
Jaguar Land Rover has admitted it must fix its unreliability issues if it’s to make its bold new sales strategy a success. In an admission that its cars had not been as reliable as it had hoped, the British car maker said this could have come as a result of the firm chasing big sales volumes in the past.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 17:41:45 GMT
Billionaire shipping mogul drowned after making fatal mistake in her TeslaThe sister-in-law of a top US politician drowned in her Tesla after she was unable to break the strengthened glass as she sank into a pond. Angela Chao, the sister-in-law of Mitch McConnell, died last month after she reversed into a body of water on a private ranch in Texas. The 50-year-old was driving home in her Model X from an evening with friends when she attempted a three-point turn accidentally put her car into reverse. But the type of glass used on the windows and the sunroof is nearly impossible to break underwater, according to the American Automobile Association. linkPoints to note: In order to break glass in an emergency, Tesla owners are encouraged to carry a Browning 9mm high power pistol in the glove box. Failing that, a cordless nail gun may suffice.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 14, 2024 7:52:03 GMT
£80,000 electric Jaguar rammed off road after brakes fail at 100mphA driver sped down a motorway at 100mph for 35 minutes without any brakes after his electric Jaguar I-Pace malfunctioned. Nathan Owen, 31, was travelling on the M62 yesterday when the brakes on his £80,000 car began to fail – for the second time in three months. The crisis support worker was forced to weave between traffic without braking for more than half an hour until the electric vehicle began to run out of power (After half an hour lol) and police were able to force it to stop. metro.co.uk/2024/03/07/80-000-electric-jaguar-rammed-off-road-brakes-fail-100mph-20416713/?ico=mosaic_newsThen it burst into flames lol, well OK that may have been artistic licence on my part, but even the most enthusiastic supporters of EV's must agree, it doesn't look good does it. I read recently that many Car Sales outlets do not like part exchanges of Electric Cars as they find it difficult to sell them on which means the value of them has dropped alarmingly they can't get rid of them, I believe VW has reduced the number they build as demand for them is not great What I don't like about them is when they do catch fire flames shoot out all over the place they basically explode , if the Fire Brigade are called to a vehicle fire if its a conventional vehicle they send one tender, if electric they send two as the fire is so fierce and difficult to quench. What I don't like about them is the limited range and in rural areas the lack of charging stations, but my main complaint is the weight of them some of them are heavier than conventional cars , our roads take a hell of pounding now hence potholes all over the place these heavy electric cars IMO will do even more damage. I don't want one far too expensive as well
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 10:09:54 GMT
£80,000 electric Jaguar rammed off road after brakes fail at 100mphA driver sped down a motorway at 100mph for 35 minutes without any brakes after his electric Jaguar I-Pace malfunctioned. Nathan Owen, 31, was travelling on the M62 yesterday when the brakes on his £80,000 car began to fail – for the second time in three months. The crisis support worker was forced to weave between traffic without braking for more than half an hour until the electric vehicle began to run out of power (After half an hour lol) and police were able to force it to stop. metro.co.uk/2024/03/07/80-000-electric-jaguar-rammed-off-road-brakes-fail-100mph-20416713/?ico=mosaic_newsThen it burst into flames lol, well OK that may have been artistic licence on my part, but even the most enthusiastic supporters of EV's must agree, it doesn't look good does it. I read recently that many Car Sales outlets do not like part exchanges of Electric Cars as they find it difficult to sell them on which means the value of them has dropped alarmingly they can't get rid of them, I believe VW has reduced the number they build as demand for them is not great What I don't like about them is when they do catch fire flames shoot out all over the place they basically explode , if the Fire Brigade are called to a vehicle fire if its a conventional vehicle they send one tender, if electric they send two as the fire is so fierce and difficult to quench. What I don't like about them is the limited range and in rural areas the lack of charging stations, but my main complaint is the weight of them some of them are heavier than conventional cars , our roads take a hell of pounding now hence potholes all over the place these heavy electric cars IMO will do even more damage. I don't want one far too expensive as well On the roads in reality the cars do very little damage, the lorries with their weight distribution as they round bends and bounce on the straight are the real killers. Cars may exacerbate a problem caused by lorries and in small minor roads with poor surfaces but the lorries do the real damage.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 14, 2024 10:49:28 GMT
The amount of all vehicles on our roads IMO causes damage through wear and tear 24/7 plus winter months when rainwater lays in the cracks and potholes which freezes and expands the cracks wider and makes potholes larger, vehicles hitting them breaks off more and the deeper the potholes get.
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 12:47:17 GMT
The amount of all vehicles on our roads IMO causes damage through wear and tear 24/7 plus winter months when rainwater lays in the cracks and potholes which freezes and expands the cracks wider and makes potholes larger, vehicles hitting them breaks off more and the deeper the potholes get. It is the suction effect of self propelled rubber tyre vehicles that causes the worsening of such cracks and it is the overall axle loads that deforms and breaks up the road surface to all its depth. The design used to be based on what they termed the standard axle and that was calculated from commercial vehicle usage. Cars do not do much apart from worsen problems created by lorries as far as I am aware. Heavier cars will have an effect on side roads but little on the heavily used roads where it is commercial vehicles that create the problems as can be seen on hills on motorways where deformed rutting is often obvious due to lorries in lower gear keeping to the inside lane.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 14, 2024 18:22:51 GMT
The amount of all vehicles on our roads IMO causes damage through wear and tear 24/7 plus winter months when rainwater lays in the cracks and potholes which freezes and expands the cracks wider and makes potholes larger, vehicles hitting them breaks off more and the deeper the potholes get. It is the suction effect of self propelled rubber tyre vehicles that causes the worsening of such cracks and it is the overall axle loads that deforms and breaks up the road surface to all its depth. The design used to be based on what they termed the standard axle and that was calculated from commercial vehicle usage. Cars do not do much apart from worsen problems created by lorries as far as I am aware. Heavier cars will have an effect on side roads but little on the heavily used roads where it is commercial vehicles that create the problems as can be seen on hills on motorways where deformed rutting is often obvious due to lorries in lower gear keeping to the inside lane. The sheer volume of over 30 odd vehicles is bound to cause damage, bottom line for me after being in numerous Uber Electric vehicles I found uncomfortable due to the weight and IMHO the suspension not up to it, felt every bump , that is why I don't want one, I will leave it at that
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 18:45:28 GMT
It is the suction effect of self propelled rubber tyre vehicles that causes the worsening of such cracks and it is the overall axle loads that deforms and breaks up the road surface to all its depth. The design used to be based on what they termed the standard axle and that was calculated from commercial vehicle usage. Cars do not do much apart from worsen problems created by lorries as far as I am aware. Heavier cars will have an effect on side roads but little on the heavily used roads where it is commercial vehicles that create the problems as can be seen on hills on motorways where deformed rutting is often obvious due to lorries in lower gear keeping to the inside lane. The sheer volume of over 30 odd vehicles is bound to cause damage, bottom line for me after being in numerous Uber Electric vehicles I found uncomfortable due to the weight and IMHO the suspension not up to it, felt every bump , that is why I don't want one, I will leave it at that I do not want one either and I have had a van and every bump is felt .
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 23, 2024 16:02:08 GMT
For obvious reasons I have put this here rather than start a new thread. Rowan Atkinson says he feels ‘duped’ by electric cars Atkinson, who has degrees in electrical engineering and control systems, described EVs in a June 2023 opinion article as “a bit soulless” but “wonderful mechanisms”. He wrote: “But increasingly, I feel a little duped … I'm feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that's no bad thing. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/03/rowan-atkinson-duped-electric-cars/The link is behind a paywall but this chap reads Rowan Atkinson's article. It's a 15 minute clip, and imo very interesting...
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Post by Ripley on Mar 23, 2024 16:50:07 GMT
£80,000 electric Jaguar rammed off road after brakes fail at 100mphA driver sped down a motorway at 100mph for 35 minutes without any brakes after his electric Jaguar I-Pace malfunctioned. Nathan Owen, 31, was travelling on the M62 yesterday when the brakes on his £80,000 car began to fail – for the second time in three months. The crisis support worker was forced to weave between traffic without braking for more than half an hour until the electric vehicle began to run out of power (After half an hour lol) and police were able to force it to stop. metro.co.uk/2024/03/07/80-000-electric-jaguar-rammed-off-road-brakes-fail-100mph-20416713/?ico=mosaic_newsThen it burst into flames lol, well OK that may have been artistic licence on my part, but even the most enthusiastic supporters of EV's must agree, it doesn't look good does it. That sounds terrifying. I understand that he couldn't slow down, but why was he doing 100 mph in the first place?
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 23, 2024 16:59:36 GMT
£80,000 electric Jaguar rammed off road after brakes fail at 100mphA driver sped down a motorway at 100mph for 35 minutes without any brakes after his electric Jaguar I-Pace malfunctioned. Nathan Owen, 31, was travelling on the M62 yesterday when the brakes on his £80,000 car began to fail – for the second time in three months. The crisis support worker was forced to weave between traffic without braking for more than half an hour until the electric vehicle began to run out of power (After half an hour lol) and police were able to force it to stop. metro.co.uk/2024/03/07/80-000-electric-jaguar-rammed-off-road-brakes-fail-100mph-20416713/?ico=mosaic_newsThen it burst into flames lol, well OK that may have been artistic licence on my part, but even the most enthusiastic supporters of EV's must agree, it doesn't look good does it. That sounds terrifying. I understand that he couldn't slow down, but why was he doing 100 mph in the first place? I believe the car accelerated to that speed on it's own, the driver could not apparently stop it. Terrifying indeed.
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 24, 2024 7:30:01 GMT
A few things on Rowan Atkinson's article. He says that BEVs decrease pollution cities, but a properly tuned petrol car emits only CO2 and water - i.e. no pollution. He also says that combustion engines using hydrogen could be used to cut pollution but the problem is that they churn out more NOx than diesels, because air is 70% nitrogen and hydrogen burns at a high enough temperature to oxidise it. JCB say that they've cracked this problem, but I'll believe it when I see it working in production.
He says that solid state batteries are much lighter than Li-ion batteries. It's true that the prototype solid state batteries are lighter but can this be replicated in production at a viable price? It hasn't been done yet. They are much safer though (they don't catch fire). I personally think that it's irresponsible that we're allowing the manufacture of cars with Li-ion batteries - they're way too dangerous.
He mentions synthetic fuel (made from CO2 and water via wind/solar energy). This is a nice idea but the cost of the energy required to make this fuel is huge. The big advantage of using oil to make fuel is that the Sun has provided all the energy that's needed to make the hydrocarbons necessary (for free) to make fuel - that's why it's cheap. I can't see synthetic fuel ever being cheap enough to be viable for mass transport. Even solar and wind energy is very expensive.
His point about it being greener to buy a petrol car and keep it a long time is a good one - but it's been said before many times. The real reason why BEVs are going to prove to be VERY "ungreen" is because the battery is a hugely expensive component and the cost of replacement means the car is a write-off. Yet the battery is very easily damaged and very vulnerable because it's mounted so low down. Any damage means it has to be replaced. This will NEVER work.
Peter Cardwell interviewed a guy who does blogs on BEVs the other day. He was bemoaning the fact that 2 years ago he bought a Porsche Taycan (£120,000) but it's resale value now is less than the cost of a replacement battery (The battery costs £45,000 not including labour). That's crazy. He also said that he gets threats from people warning him not to knock electric cars - I wonder who they come from. I can imagine that there is a lot of money riding on these cars being a success and many people want to stifle fair criticism.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 25, 2024 10:01:00 GMT
The bloke in the original post has since been arrested and later released under investigation of dangerous driving it has now come to light another electric jag reversed in to a car so fast it mounted the bonnet of it,then went forward and hit another car ,that driver says he had put it in to park and was about to get out when this happened,he got a fixed penalty from the police . In both these cases jaguar have said they inspected the cars and they had no faults,seems at best odd and it’s being taken as read the electronics and computer chips are like the pope and horizon infallible and the the drivers are at fault. link
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 25, 2024 11:37:57 GMT
The bloke in the original post has since been arrested and later released under investigation of dangerous driving it has now come to light another electric jag reversed in to a car so fast it mounted the bonnet of it,then went forward and hit another car ,that driver says he had put it in to park and was about to get out when this happened,he got a fixed penalty from the police . In both these cases jaguar have said they inspected the cars and they had no faults,seems at best odd and it’s being taken as read the electronics and computer chips are like the pope and horizon infallible and the the drivers are at fault. linkWhich is rather strange as in no other sphere are computers treated as infallible. I dont believe the auto industry is using computers that are generations ahead of anyone else.
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