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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 2, 2024 13:14:46 GMT
Tell that to Jo Cox's kids. I've never seen any evidence that Thomas Mair had ANY political views at all. It was the Leftie judge who called him "far Right" but the judge never allowed him to address the court. What's certainly true is that Mair was mentally ill and not taking his prescribed medication - and that he had formed the impression that Ms Cox was going to take his council house away from him and give it to immigrants. It wasn't political - it was personal. It's very different from the "Islamist" terrorist who kills because he's on board with the ideology of taking control of the UK. That IS political. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 2, 2024 13:23:26 GMT
Tell that to Jo Cox's kids. I've never seen any evidence that Thomas Mair had ANY political views at all. It was the Leftie judge who called him "far Right" but the judge never allowed him to address the court. What's certainly true is that Mair was mentally ill and not taking his prescribed medication - and that he had formed the impression that Ms Cox was going to take his council house away from him and give it to immigrants. It wasn't political - it was personal. It's very different from the "Islamist" terrorist who kills because he's on board with the ideology of taking control of the UK. That IS political. "Mair was an extremely slow burner. He appears to have fantasised about killing a “collaborator” for more than 17 years, drawing inspiration from another rightwing terrorist, David Copeland. Mair amassed a small library about the Nazis, German military history and white supremacy, which he kept in a bedroom at his home on a bookshelf topped by a gold-coloured Third Reich eagle with a swastika. SS Race Theory and Mate Selection Guidelines was the title of one, fairly typical text. Uniforms and Traditions of the Luftwaffe Volume Two was another. He also subscribed to a rightwing magazine called SA Patriot, which was initially published in South Africa by the Springbok Club, but moved to the UK and became SA Patriot in Exile in 1991. That year, Mair had written a letter to the magazine in which he railed against the killing of loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland and attacked the UK media’s coverage of South African affairs “which … never fails to present whites in the worst possible light”. He tried to end his letter on a positive note: “Despite everything, I still have faith that the white race will prevail, both in Britain and in South Africa.” But then his pessimism got the better of him: “I fear that it’s going to be a very long and very bloody struggle.” www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-slow-burning-hatred-led-to-jo-cox-murder |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 2, 2024 13:48:12 GMT
And this ladies and gentlemen is one of the reasons why Rishi's speech writer disingenuously balanced matters impugning the threat of the far-right. Whataboutery clouds current threats to politicians and democracy and removes one particular mob
from the spotlight. Consider this: Had Rishi omitted the threat of the far right from his speech people like hh would no doubt be apoplectic with the singling out of Islamists. Rishi's thrown him and his ilk a bone and are happy with that because they
now play whataboutery and ignore all the present problems in our democracy. By saying what Rishi did, people like hh can't use the favoured I-word to ignore the PM's implicit message.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2024 15:45:50 GMT
Tell that to Jo Cox's kids. I've never seen any evidence that Thomas Mair had ANY political views at all. It was the Leftie judge who called him "far Right" but the judge never allowed him to address the court. What's certainly true is that Mair was mentally ill and not taking his prescribed medication - and that he had formed the impression that Ms Cox was going to take his council house away from him and give it to immigrants. It wasn't political - it was personal. It's very different from the "Islamist" terrorist who kills because he's on board with the ideology of taking control of the UK. That IS political. Quite. Mair was an unfortunate individual with a lifelong history of mental illness. Yet nonetheless the powers-that-be were only too keen to brand him "Far right". Compare and contrast with Islamists whose atrocities are instantly blamed on the excuse of "Mental illness" even without any such history. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 15:53:27 GMT
And this ladies and gentlemen is one of the reasons why Rishi's speech writer disingenuously balanced matters impugning the threat of the far-right. Whataboutery clouds current threats to politicians and democracy and removes one particular mob from the spotlight. Consider this: Had Rishi omitted the threat of the far right from his speech people like hh would no doubt be apoplectic with the singling out of Islamists. Rishi's thrown him and his ilk a bone and are happy with that because they now play whataboutery and ignore all the present problems in our democracy. By saying what Rishi did, people like hh can't use the favoured I-word to ignore the PM's implicit message. Spotlight a far -right website. Do you often subscribe to far-right Web sights? |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 16:04:32 GMT
I've never seen any evidence that Thomas Mair had ANY political views at all. It was the Leftie judge who called him "far Right" but the judge never allowed him to address the court. What's certainly true is that Mair was mentally ill and not taking his prescribed medication - and that he had formed the impression that Ms Cox was going to take his council house away from him and give it to immigrants. It wasn't political - it was personal. It's very different from the "Islamist" terrorist who kills because he's on board with the ideology of taking control of the UK. That IS political. Quite. Mair was an unfortunate individual with a lifelong history of mental illness. Yet nonetheless the powers-that-be were only too keen to brand him "Far right". Compare and contrast with Islamists whose atrocities are instantly blamed on the excuse of "Mental illness" even without any such history. You do know that his mental illness Wasn't a psychotic illnesses . There 1 in 4 people with mental illness and the don't go and kill . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2024 17:48:45 GMT
I keep wondering this, who are these so called far-right suppose to be threatening? This is a smokescreen because they don't want it to look like it's just the Muslims doing all the threatening, the far-left. They are trying to balance it out by making up fictitious claims against this invisible far-right group? They don't seem to exist. I just see the usual Islamists and rabids desperately trying to racially abuse white folk. Sunak obviously set this up. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 3, 2024 8:05:29 GMT
And this ladies and gentlemen is one of the reasons why Rishi's speech writer disingenuously balanced matters impugning the threat of the far-right. Whataboutery clouds current threats to politicians and democracy and removes one particular mob from the spotlight. Consider this: Had Rishi omitted the threat of the far right from his speech people like hh would no doubt be apoplectic with the singling out of Islamists. Rishi's thrown him and his ilk a bone and are happy with that because they now play whataboutery and ignore all the present problems in our democracy. By saying what Rishi did, people like hh can't use the favoured I-word to ignore the PM's implicit message. Spotlight a far -right website. Do you often subscribe to far-right Web sights? I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2024 8:07:19 GMT
Spotlight a far -right website. Do you often subscribe to far-right Web sights? I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. Neither does he... |
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 3, 2024 8:40:49 GMT
Fairsociety The ones in the news last week were allegedly threatening, among others, an Islamic Education Centre. Far Right Terror Plot |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2024 9:11:02 GMT
Fairsociety The ones in the news last week were allegedly threatening, among others, an Islamic Education Centre. Far Right Terror PlotBut it still doesn't make them far right does it? This is just a label pinned onto them by our lefty woke establishment as that is far easier than facing the real truth. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 3, 2024 11:24:12 GMT
Fairsociety The ones in the news last week were allegedly threatening, among others, an Islamic Education Centre. Far Right Terror PlotBut it still doesn't make them far right does it? This is just a label pinned onto them by our lefty woke establishment as that is far easier than facing the real truth. Denial is not a river in Africa. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 3, 2024 11:32:25 GMT
Jonksy It's 2024 Jonksy ! ..... in modern day Politics it doesn't matter if it's true, it just matters if it works, if it creates the impression you want. Basic word association. The Prosecutor wants to paint them as Far Right ..... for most of the British public what's the subconscious connection that immediately gets made in their mind ? ... N azi=Far Right. And so if you read it in your newspaper or hear it on the television news .... the message is clear. The prosecutor, Mark Luckett, said police searches of addresses linked to the men had found items including knives, a crossbow and neo-N azi and other allegedly far-right materials.It works ... how many people think, 'I'm gonna question that and start doing some research', or will decide to take the time or the trouble to do so? Suggest a connection with the N azis and for 95% of the public reading or listening, that'll be good enough to ensure they'll accept a 'Far Right' label is appropriate. Think back a month:  Middle aged or younger people today will at most have some vague recollection of recalling Pol Pot and his regime compared to the N azis by the media, and as a result where would they automatically pinpoint them on the political compass if they had to guess ? .... that's correct, Far Right obviously. How many of them would instead bother taking it upon themselves to look into things ( Pol Pot -Wikipedia) and say 'Hang on a minute ..... this is all about 'Marxist-Leninist, Stalin, Soviet, Communist etc .... what the f--k .... isn't it the atrocities and mass killings of Stalin or Mao that should be most readily compared with Pol Pot's politically inspired killings ?Tinculin is almost certainly correct in his prediction of a lack of controversy ..... maybe one or two at most will be up in arms at 'N azi' being applied to the Far Left Khmer Rouge. Labels work, and if you can get them accepted, people will be receptive to the mental shortcut provided ..... results rank higher than truth in today's political arena ..... and when we soon witness Prime Minister Starmer about to enter No.10, then even the last of the doubters will have to accept that's a definite fact  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 11:33:46 GMT
But it still doesn't make them far right does it? This is just a label pinned onto them by our lefty woke establishment as that is far easier than facing the real truth. Denial is not a river in Africa. No you are right. The Nile is a river in Africa. This is one of Steve's favourite sayings, too. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2024 11:35:11 GMT
But it still doesn't make them far right does it? This is just a label pinned onto them by our lefty woke establishment as that is far easier than facing the real truth. Denial is not a river in Africa. What would you know HH? But I know one thing you don't seem to know and that is the fact that it's the snowflake mentality of the lefty woke virtual signalling arseholes who have created this problem.... |
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