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Post by Nemo on Mar 1, 2024 19:07:18 GMT
More empty talk from Sunak about the mobs. But one thing puzzles me who are the far right threatening our democracy?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2024 19:11:39 GMT
It's smoke and mirrors. His minions wrote his speech and they couldn't mention one type of extremist without mentioning the another type.
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Post by sandypine on Mar 1, 2024 19:12:35 GMT
More empty talk from Sunak about the mobs. But one thing puzzles me who are the far right threatening our democracy?
They are largely bogeymen type groups with no serious intent other than a few loners and small groups unable to create a serious threat to society. They have to be included though as if Sunak referred to only Islamic extremism, that everyone knows is the real and consistent threat, he would have been called out as Islamophobic.
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Post by om15 on Mar 1, 2024 19:33:57 GMT
I thought that as well, we see foreign people shouting and bawling on our streets about their support for Hamas all day long, but I haven't seen "far right" protests demanding anything very much. As people like Starmer and Harmen consider Jacob Rees Mogg and Lee Anderson as "far right" I don't think the implied equality of the two positions is a very fair observation. I personally would like to see a bit more "far right" on a Saturday afternoon in London.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 1, 2024 19:54:57 GMT
There's no such thing as a "Far Right" in this country.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 1, 2024 20:40:54 GMT
More empty talk from Sunak about the mobs. But one thing puzzles me who are the far right threatening our democracy?
From your link Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.[3] Work it out for yourself who Rusi means.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 1, 2024 20:48:12 GMT
There's no such thing as a "Far Right" in this country. I's there not according to this So Called patriot there is On 8 October 2013, the think tank Quilliam held a press conference with Robinson and the EDL's deputy leader Kevin Carroll to announce that Robinson and Carroll had left the EDL. Robinson said that he had been considering leaving for a long time because of concerns over the "dangers of far-right extremism". en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Tommy Robinson (activist) - Wikipedia Pot Calling kettle black
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Post by sheepy on Mar 1, 2024 21:45:28 GMT
More empty talk from Sunak about the mobs. But one thing puzzles me who are the far right threatening our democracy?
Well, he also thinks he speaks for the public which he has no proof of whatsoever, that is coming back to bite him very shortly.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2024 6:30:55 GMT
Sunak even managed to reference Galloway previously being "Approved" by Nick Griffin.
It's beyond stupid, wtf has the BNP got to do with anything going on now?
Or indeed anything of relevance that's gone on in the last twenty years?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2024 7:12:19 GMT
It's smoke and mirrors. His minions wrote his speech and they couldn't mention one type of extremist without mentioning the another type. When Islamists and the rabid far-left are burning down their offices they will still refuse to call it out and sack everyone else who does. They're weak lying cowards demanding special protection for themselves when they should all be strung up for treason.
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 2, 2024 7:30:20 GMT
As has been said Sunak only mentions the "Far Right" because if he just talked about Islamic extremism the muslims would go berserk that they're being scapegoated. Unfortunately by taking the focus off the muslims he completely negates the purpose of his speech. It's the muslims who are threatening our politicians and Jews and the muslims who are perpetrating the terrorism on our streets. This is what he needs to confront. By mentioning the fictional Far Right the message is lost.
The term "Far Right" in the UK was used to categorise the EDL, National Front, National Action and Tommy Robinson. But the EDL have morphed into an anti-muslim movement and have largely disappeared - the police shut them down whenever they appear. The National Front have gone too. National Action have been proscribed in this country but they were never anything more than a rag-bag of idiots who liked a punch-up every now and then. Unfortunately one of them threatened to kill the Labour MP Rosie Cooper (IIRC). But he told so many people that even our police heard about it and he was locked up for 23 years. But the liberal Left have never forgotten this and this case is always cited if people mention muslim extremism. Tommy Robinson is now an anti-Islam campaigner (and member of Quilliam) which is all entirely legal and he should be regarded as an ally by any sensible govt. And NONE of these groups can be said to "hate Britain" as Sunak says. Quite the reverse.
The point is that the "far Right" has basically disappeared - and they never killed anyone anyway. But because the government is so exercised about them MI5 have to spend a large amount of time on them - when they should be fully occupied trying too deal with over 30,000 muslim extremists.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2024 7:51:43 GMT
By far the largest group marching for peace are not Muslims. So he might well have a problem on his hands pointing out who exactly is threatening the Westminster party, so I guess he is just lashing out in all directions.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2024 8:09:16 GMT
By far the largest group marching for peace are not Muslims. So he might well have a problem on his hands pointing out who exactly is threatening the Westminster party, so I guess he is just lashing out in all directions. Its nothing more than painting over the cracks...
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Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2024 8:16:01 GMT
By far the largest group marching for peace are not Muslims. So he might well have a problem on his hands pointing out who exactly is threatening the Westminster party, so I guess he is just lashing out in all directions. Its nothing more than painting over the cracks... You don't think by any chance the Westminster party have been on the drugs again, do you? they seem awfully paranoid that everyone is out to get them.
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 9:24:06 GMT
By far the largest group marching for peace are not Muslims. So he might well have a problem on his hands pointing out who exactly is threatening the Westminster party, so I guess he is just lashing out in all directions. Perhaps those marching for 'peace' are not the ones intimidating and threatening. It is not the marches it is what happens within the marches that is the problem. Once again I have to say that the MPs have largely brought this upon themselves as they tacitly supported violent acts and intimidation against a variety of individuals and groups over the last 60 years and because they were held to be outsiders that violence was not decried. We have had Peter Griffiths, Enoch Powell, the EDL, the NF, the BNP (and two BNP MEPS), Nigel Farage and a host of others whose views have been denounced by the Westminster cabal and as such have been seen to be fair game for the violent protestors. Now that that violence and intimidation has arrived at their door through political differences on foreign affairs it becomes a danger. It always has been.
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