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Post by wapentake on Mar 1, 2024 23:13:33 GMT
So it’s beyond alarming Galloway won says Rishi and Starmer says they didn’t win because they didn’t have a candidate,what a pair of pillocks,why do they imagine George won and to get three ducks (spelt with an f)in a row Ed Davey stuck his two pennorth in.
We are where we are because collectively they’ve brought us to this point.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 1, 2024 23:34:19 GMT
Whatever way you look at it George took the seat off Labour and Tories
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Post by wapentake on Mar 1, 2024 23:45:20 GMT
Maybe they didn't have so many postal votes Andy...We wouldn't want them to cheat would we? So tully the independent canadate who came second votes were all postsal votes was they Yes Tully came second with more votes than Tory and labour combined,you said in another thread this is the first time you’ve not voted,shame on you TTL because if you read his election manifesto he’s the only one who really gives a toss,he lives and works there perhaps more independents might be good for this country. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 0:00:05 GMT
So tully the independent canadate who came second votes were all postsal votes was they Yes Tully came second with more votes than Tory and labour combined,you said in another thread this is the first time you’ve not voted,shame on you TTL because if you read his election manifesto he’s the only one who really gives a toss,he lives and works there perhaps more independents might be good for this country. Also plus Reform What you mean shame on me . Aren't you one of them who always says that people don't vote because no one represents there views. The labour party are the only party that represents my views. Seeing no official labour candidate There was no one to represent my view. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 0:03:18 GMT
Labour were quite happy to play down electoral fraud when they were benefiting from it. I wonder if the hypocrites will complain now that they're not. Who do you think.doing the complaining Richard Tice 🇬🇧 @ticerichard Now the polls have closed, people across the UK need to know the truth about this election campaign - and the implications for our democracy. To suggest that a parliamentary election in this country has not been truly free and fair is a very serious allegation indeed. Unfortunately however, the behaviour of certain candidates and their supporters in this contest fell very far short of this our traditional democratic standards. What we have witnessed and experienced in Rochdale is deeply disturbing. In recent weeks, Reform UK’s candidate and campaign team has: - been subjected to death threats - suffered vile racist abuse - been refused entry to hustings in a public building - had to be relocated for their own safety - suffered daily intimidation and slurs In one incident, Reform UK business supporters were threatened with a firebomb attack if they distributed our leaflets. Menacing behaviour was a feature of the entire campaign, including outside polling stations on the day of the election itself. In this ugliest of contests, we are also concerned by the sudden increase in the size of the postal vote, which has jumped from 14,000 to some 23,000 in this constituency since the last general election. The results of the Rochdale by-election should act as a stark wake up call to those in power – and the entire electorate. This is Britain. We are supposed to be a beacon of democracy. This shameful contest has been more characteristic of a failed state. Unless something dramatic changes, our fear is that it will be repeated in dozens of constituencies across the UK at the general election. By Christmas, we face the prospect of numerous extremist anti-Semitic lawmakers in the House of Commons. 12:41 AM · Mar 1, 2024 · 701.5K Views |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 0:11:32 GMT
So you don't mind Anti Semitic then? You openly cheer on Anti-Semitic on this forum. It's not criticism I'm just asking about Confirmation of the rules. Semite is not a religion, and im a little unsure what you mean by me cheering it on? Judaism is the religion of many Jews. If you want to criticise Judaism then write a critique. So semite Is a race then the rules strictly prohibite racism Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, and Phoenicians. The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 2, 2024 0:16:46 GMT
Yes Tully came second with more votes than Tory and labour combined,you said in another thread this is the first time you’ve not voted,shame on you TTL because if you read his election manifesto he’s the only one who really gives a toss,he lives and works there perhaps more independents might be good for this country. Also plus Reform What you mean shame on me . Aren't you one of them who always says that people don't vote because no one represents there views.No I’m one of those that says that Westminster and the three main parties are a homogeneous mass. So if Ali hadn’t been caught out you’d have voted for him because he represents your views,really? lol And yes shame on you the right to vote is precious you could have still exercised that right and spoilt your ballot paper or more productive a local man that cares about Rochdale it’s people and community. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 0:27:03 GMT
Also plus Reform What you mean shame on me . Aren't you one of them who always says that people don't vote because no one represents there views.No I’m one of those that says that Westminster and the three main parties are a homogeneous mass. So if Ali hadn’t been caught out you’d have voted for him because he represents your views,really? lol And yes shame on you the right to vote is precious you could have still exercised that right and spoilt your ballot paper or more productive a local man that cares about Rochdale it’s people and community. Yes I would of voted Ali because he would of been the labour Candidate. Has for destroying the papers you know that there not counted has votes . Plus have you never voted except Sept for parties farage set up? Or since Maggie? |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 0:33:10 GMT
Whatever way you look at it George took the seat off8 Labour and Tories Dur what don't you understand that labour party had no official candidate. But it was obvious that Galloway independent. TULLY independent. AllI independent. Pushed the Established Reform into 6th lol |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 2, 2024 0:54:02 GMT
No I’m one of those that says that Westminster and the three main parties are a homogeneous mass. So if Ali hadn’t been caught out you’d have voted for him because he represents your views,really? lol And yes shame on you the right to vote is precious you could have still exercised that right and spoilt your ballot paper or more productive a local man that cares about Rochdale it’s people and community. Yes I would of voted Ali because he would of been the labour Candidate. Has for destroying the papers you know that there not counted has votes . Plus have you never voted except Sept for parties farage set up? Or since Maggie? What?  ?? I didn’t vote for ukip I voted in the referendum to leave the eu. I didn’t vote for Maggie,I was a labour voter and much to my regret I voted Blair in and slowly but surely came to see what he and Labour are. I have no illusions about the tories but they are what you see is what you get unlike labour who work onthe principle you are stupid and won’t see through them. I didn’t say they were,you don’t understand the concept of a protest vote? |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 2, 2024 1:01:55 GMT
Yes I would of voted Ali because he would of been the labour Candidate. Has for destroying the papers you know that there not counted has votes . Plus have you never voted except Sept for parties farage set up? Or since Maggie? What? ?? I didn’t vote for ukip I voted in the referendum to leave the eu. I didn’t vote for Maggie,I was a labour voter and much to my regret I voted Blair in and slowly but surely came to see what he and Labour are. I have no illusions about the tories but they are what you see is what you get unlike labour who work onthe principle you are stupid and won’t see through them. I didn’t say they were,you don’t understand the concept of a protest vote? So it's Clear you didn't vote a political party between 2005/2010 And who you going to vote for known |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 2, 2024 7:51:11 GMT
One interesting observation is that of the 78,000 electorate, about 23,000 are Muslim, meaning around 55,000 are not. What does this say for "Reform UK" who came a miserable 6th ? As I've told you before the muslims probably all voted while the turn-out for the rest of the electorate was very low and split. This is why the muslims can turn elections - it's estimated there are up to 70 constituencies which can won by the block muslim vote. Reform don't stand a chance in any muslim constituency. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 7:51:29 GMT
Say what you like about Galloway but he was 100% correct - Sunak and Starmer are just 2 cheeks of the same arse separated by a crack..
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:17:24 GMT
Rochdale Council are on the ball..   |
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 2, 2024 8:42:13 GMT
wapentake Perhaps they would. And I'm only asking this because I don't know the answer myself, but I'm always a little suspicious that many advocating for proportional representation might have as their sub-plot to further entrench the 'Party' system. I realise there are a few different methods of PR, but does anyone know in general terms whether an individual standing as an Independent fairs better or worse under PR ? Would the people of Rochdale have an Independent member of parliament of their choice, in this case George Galloway, in the House of Commons .... or is PR a system with an in-built method designed to promote and maintain 'Party' politics ? With transferable votes and the like I've a feeling it delivers the person that most people dislike least ...... the prospect of perpetual Liberal Democrat would kill most people's interest in politics stone dead  . If PR gave Rochdale George Galloway and the chap called Tulley then fair enough, but is it designed to lumber them with a Liberal Democrat ? |
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