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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 18:15:31 GMT
Not spite, self interest. If there's something in it for them they cooperate, just the same with every country. So how does not cooperating with the UK translate to self interest for the EU? Depends what on. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 18:19:35 GMT
Does it? Care to share this history? The Vikings who settled in the UK and quickly adapted to be farmers instead of raiders when they saw the advantages. History shows the opposite. Northern Ireland; many cities in the ME over hundreds of years had quarters whereby different groups kept to themselves; the Landsker line; as regards Vikings the Pale existed for many years in Ireland; the Pale in Russia where Pogroms were commonplace; Walloons and Flems in Belgium; German ethnic groups in Czeoslovakia, Poland and Belarus, Russians in the Baltic states, the Balkans have blown up many times as regards ethnic tensions; Israel and Palestine; Biafra; Rwanda; Kenya and Uganda and Asians, South Africa: the list is almost endless. Are you really claiming there was no movement between these groups. Ethnic tensions between countries is not the same as a minority moving to live in a new country. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 18:27:37 GMT
So how does not cooperating with the UK translate to self interest for the EU? Depends what on. What issue benefits the EU by not cooperating with the UK? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 19:34:39 GMT
What issue benefits the EU by not cooperating with the UK? Wrong way round. They only cooperate when there's a benefit for them. Beyond that we are rival companies. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 19:39:32 GMT
What issue benefits the EU by not cooperating with the UK? Wrong way round. They only cooperate when there's a benefit for them. Beyond that we are rival companies. I’m glad we left then .👍 |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 20:11:02 GMT
Wrong way round. They only cooperate when there's a benefit for them. Beyond that we are rival companies. I’m glad we left then .👍 We used to be in the same company. We left not them. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 20:15:23 GMT
We used to be in the same company. We left not them. Hence my post “ I’m glad we left “. It wasn’t a company it was a quasi political and economic union . |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 20:32:56 GMT
We used to be in the same company. We left not them. Hence my post “ I’m glad we left “. It wasn’t a company it was a quasi political and economic union . In your opinion. As far as we are now concern having left we are just a tiny competing company. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 20:35:12 GMT
Hence my post “ I’m glad we left “. It wasn’t a company it was a quasi political and economic union . In your opinion. Eh no .The EU isn’t a company . The clue is in the name . |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 20:36:41 GMT
Eh no .The EU isn’t a company . The clue is in the name . Apologies Bentley. I realised my post was misleading. It was an analogy not literal. I added some brief explanation after you'd replied. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 20:43:08 GMT
Eh no .The EU isn’t a company . The clue is in the name . Apologies Bentley. I realised my post was misleading. It was an analogy not literal. I added some brief explanation after you'd replied. Ok.Apologies for my pedantry . TBH I can’t see why a country of 60million people cannot have a positive relationship with the EU, still be independent and cooperate with negative issues on both sides . |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 21:42:03 GMT
Apologies Bentley. I realised my post was misleading. It was an analogy not literal. I added some brief explanation after you'd replied. Ok.Apologies for my pedantry . TBH I can’t see why a country of 60million people cannot have a positive relationship with the EU, still be independent and cooperate with negative issues on both sides . It can, just so long as there are gains for both sides. For instance the UK and EU are working together to arrest the people smuggling gangs. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 21:53:46 GMT
Ok.Apologies for my pedantry . TBH I can’t see why a country of 60million people cannot have a positive relationship with the EU, still be independent and cooperate with negative issues on both sides . It can, just so long as there are gains for both sides. For instance the UK and EU are working together to arrest the people smuggling gangs. Most problems that need cooperation are common problems . The idea that cooperation should only be given if it helps you is a short sighted one. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 22:10:16 GMT
It can, just so long as there are gains for both sides. For instance the UK and EU are working together to arrest the people smuggling gangs. Most problems that need cooperation are common problems . The idea that cooperation should only be given if it helps you is a short sighted one. yes, but when helping costs everything changes. It should also be a two way street. Do you think the UK should take all the migrants queued up in Calais wanting to be here, to take the cost and pressure off France? |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 9, 2024 22:20:34 GMT
Most problems that need cooperation are common problems . The idea that cooperation should only be given if it helps you is a short sighted one. yes, but when helping costs everything changes. It should also be a two way street. Do you think the UK should take all the migrants queued up in Calais wanting to be here, to take the cost and pressure off France? No. I think that we should make the journey pointless . Using your principal we should stop helping the Ukraine war until it directly affects us . |
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