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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:00:30 GMT
If god isn't going to sort these people out, who will? Well my is view is that the punishment for being an arse is that you are an arse. I don't think god should kill them. |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2024 21:01:29 GMT
No but then I don’t expect them (as an organisation) to sympathise,they’re there as impartial observers and broadcasters.I’m not a massive beeb basher btw,they do some really good stuff but as auntie they’re also in their position an aunt sally it goes with the territory l Really? So you would want them not to be sympathetic when talking to a couple who's daughter had committed suicide? Jeez that is the biggest form of goalpost moving of the day, for Gods sake Zany! |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 2, 2024 21:06:04 GMT
No but then I don’t expect them (as an organisation) to sympathise,they’re there as impartial observers and broadcasters.I’m not a massive beeb basher btw,they do some really good stuff but as auntie they’re also in their position an aunt sally it goes with the territory l Really? So you would want them not to be sympathetic when talking to a couple whose daughter had committed suicide? You missed this bit If a reporter is speaking to a couple as in your example being empathetic is expected however I would expect reporting on asylum seekers for example to be even handed and really show both sides of that story. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:06:16 GMT
Really? So you would want them not to be sympathetic when talking to a couple who's daughter had committed suicide? Jeez that is the biggest form of goalpost moving of the day, for Gods sake Zany! I disagree. The claim is the BBC should not show sympathy. It was not that they should choose who deserves sympathy. |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2024 21:08:53 GMT
Jeez that is the biggest form of goalpost moving of the day, for Gods sake Zany! I disagree. The claim is the BBC should not show sympathy. It was not that they should choose who deserves sympathy. Whatever, but you have a habit of conflating different issues and somehow think they become the same thing. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:11:16 GMT
Really? So you would want them not to be sympathetic when talking to a couple whose daughter had committed suicide? You missed this bit If a reporter is speaking to a couple as in your example being empathetic is expected however I would expect reporting on asylum seekers for example to be even handed and really show both sides that fthe story. Ok. So a reporter interviewing an asylum seeker in a Calais camp should not show empathy? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:13:00 GMT
I disagree. The claim is the BBC should not show sympathy. It was not that they should choose who deserves sympathy. Whatever, but you have a habit of conflating different issues and somehow think they become the same thing. Only because you misunderstand the point being made. I was doing a deliberately awkward comparison to emphasise a point. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 2, 2024 21:14:18 GMT
You missed this bit If a reporter is speaking to a couple as in your example being empathetic is expected however I would expect reporting on asylum seekers for example to be even handed and really show both sides that fthe story. Ok. So a reporter interviewing an asylum seeker in a Calais camp should not show empathy? Well as we already both agreed not all asylum seekers are asylum seekers then no. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 2, 2024 21:17:04 GMT
Ok. So a reporter interviewing an asylum seeker in a Calais camp should not show empathy? No. A reporter's job is to report not to empathise. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 2, 2024 21:23:53 GMT
I'm not a religious man, never have been, but as I get older I understand more and more why people believe in karma. Many years ago when I was an apprentice and I was picked on by the foreman, an old cabinet maker told me. "The punishment for being an arsehole is that your an arsehole" I think that's true. You meet people who are always complaining, pushing in or spoiling for a fight, but they are never happy souls. Yeap, worked with a guy about 10 years ago, massive bully, made life miserable for everyone around him. He was on a six figure salary, lived in a palatial home with a beautiful wife and two happy, healthy kids, angriest man I've ever met. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 2, 2024 21:28:27 GMT
Which means god. Man was found to be faulty in the Garden of Eden, so this is why Christians believe if someone has done great wrong they will be punished by god. Only god has perfect judgment because only god sees everything and knows everything.
For example, a really weird experience I had was this one bloke who was a customer of mine and I ranked him as the worst customer I have ever had, like the attitude was the customer from hell. A long time later after I had the displeasure of doing business with him some woman turned up out of the blue, claiming I have some of his property, which I did not, but it turned out he has died. He was about 30ish as I remember. I guess it was a case of what you put out you eventually get back.
You have to consider that you think god killed a man for being a bad customer. You miss the point. I was not saying it was for being a bad customer. I was saying because of the way he behaved he was just a hell of a person. Being a bad customer is one of the effects of being a bad person. You get some who are rude, but this guy left you totally messed up, as if you had done the worst thing in the world but in fact all you were doing is the same normal things you do every day with loads of customers. There is a similar thing I've noticed with some who have been in the army. Some go into the army and come out normal, but there are those who go insane. I have a little theory about this which revolves around the act of killing people. People who kill others are evil and the bible says it is a big no no. It seems like the divine punishment is insanity and it can lead to death via suicide. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:29:11 GMT
Ok. So a reporter interviewing an asylum seeker in a Calais camp should not show empathy? Well as we already both agreed not all asylum seekers are asylum seekers then no. So you would have them judge whether an asylum seeker deserves sympathy? Should they apply that standard to all cases? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 2, 2024 21:31:29 GMT
Many years ago when I was an apprentice and I was picked on by the foreman, an old cabinet maker told me. "The punishment for being an arsehole is that your an arsehole" I think that's true. You meet people who are always complaining, pushing in or spoiling for a fight, but they are never happy souls. Yeap, worked with a guy about 10 years ago, massive bully, made life miserable for everyone around him. He was on a six figure salary, lived in a palatial home with a beautiful wife and two happy, healthy kids, angriest man I've ever met. Maybe someone wanted their money back! |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:32:31 GMT
You have to consider that you think god killed a man for being a bad customer. You miss the point. I was not saying it was for being a bad customer. I was saying because of the way he behaved he was just a hell of a person. Being a bad customer is one of the effects of being a bad person. You get some who are rude, but this guy left you totally messed up, as if you had done the worst thing in the world but in fact all you were doing is the same normal things you do every day with loads of customers. There is a similar thing I've noticed with some who have been in the army. Some go into the army and come out normal, but there are those who go insane. I have a little theory about this which revolves around the act of killing people. People who kill others are evil and the bible says it is a big no no. It seems like the divine punishment is insanity and it can lead to death via suicide. I get you. God knows I've met a few. But whilst not being god (Sorry everyone, but I'm not) ( I know you're shocked) I would not make them dead for their rudeness. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 21:35:48 GMT
Ok. So a reporter interviewing an asylum seeker in a Calais camp should not show empathy? No. A reporter's job is to report not to empathise. Reporter and human being. |
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