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Post by Bentley on Feb 27, 2024 18:44:14 GMT
I was reading that very thing by hysterical lefties at the time and I sure I will read more when Labour is elected. Lefties seem to compete with each other in attributing more and more extreme definitions of people who do not agree with them anyway. Starting from ‘ right wing ‘ to ‘ far right wing’ moving on to ‘ extreme right wing’ on then onto evoking Goose stepping Germans in the 1930s . I think you are a bit behind the curve there. You need to acquaint yourself with history and the human psyche. I think you need to take your own advice .
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Post by sandypine on Feb 27, 2024 18:57:46 GMT
Is that not the point that we go on what individuals actually say as opposed to blaming them for what others say. Lee Anderson has not said anything of the sort and in fact was at pains to point out exactly what he did say. It seems very much the political tool being used mainly by the left, chastise and seek ostracization against people for what one says they said or mean and not deal with the point being made. We have been here many times before. I ask you the same question I asked Red do you feel.the Same About Ant-Semtics who say the Same rubbish it's stops them voicing there Views if not why not Could you rephrase please as I am struggling to understand. I will try and answer as I understand. You seem to be asking if I feel the same about anti semitism and when it is voiced. The whole point is if one says Mr X is in the hands of Islamists then that is no different to saying Mr Y is in the hands of Zionist extremists. Neither is racist and neither breach equality/race laws in actuality or in spirit
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Post by sandypine on Feb 27, 2024 19:03:48 GMT
I have not got to grips with why Anderson's comments were Islamophobic and as such unacceptable, some are even saying they were racist comments. Could you explain please? Why are his comments different to the comments about Farage being in collusion with Putin. Both are opinions about UK political figures expressed freely. Because he was saying that the democratically elecred mayor of London is leading the way to an eventual Islamic takeover of the country. This dusty old trope was repeatedly discussed years ago. It is based on one person's opinion supported by nothing but bigotry. It is stirring the cesspit of race hate again. On the orher hand I wouldnt mind getting rid of Braverman and Patel on the same basis. He said the democratically mayor of London was under the control of Islamists which means that he is not being democratic by representing all his constituents and running London for all. How is that race hate? It is voicing an opinion on how a person is behaving no different to any opinion when a Tory is accused of pandering to his mates in the city and we know that is not racist or any type of imagined phobic.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 19:20:06 GMT
I ask you the same question I asked Red do you feel.the Same About Ant-Semtics who say the Same rubbish it's stops them voicing there Views if not why not Could you rephrase please as I am struggling to understand. I will try and answer as I understand. You seem to be asking if I feel the same about anti semitism and when it is voiced. The whole point is if one says Mr X is in the hands of Islamists then that is no different to saying Mr Y is in the hands of Zionist extremists. Neither is racist and neither breach equality/race laws in actuality or in spirit What I'm saying is do you see it has hate speach and dose it stop people Speaking out against jews or the State of Israel. And I thinkJudishism/Jews Is recomixed has a race
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Post by sandypine on Feb 27, 2024 19:27:47 GMT
Could you rephrase please as I am struggling to understand. I will try and answer as I understand. You seem to be asking if I feel the same about anti semitism and when it is voiced. The whole point is if one says Mr X is in the hands of Islamists then that is no different to saying Mr Y is in the hands of Zionist extremists. Neither is racist and neither breach equality/race laws in actuality or in spirit What I'm saying is do you see it has hate speach and dose it stop people Speaking out against jews or the State of Israel. And I thinkJudishism/Jews Is recomixed has a race I see very little as hate speech, it is a poor word to have in law as disliking something is not hate nor is being wary of something. It is a tool of the left to close down debate and discussion and has been in operation for over 60 years. Accusations of racism used to be a worrying thing to happen now most people do not give a toss because it has been overused, overworked, overaccused and its string played out to the end and it no longer works or scares.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2024 19:33:51 GMT
Yes they are so fucking innocent fiddles they killed 1000's on 911 along with all the other fucking murders they have committed...Did you clap on 911 fiddles? Another dumb imbicile with not an ounce of intelligence, it is not the fault of every British Muslim that some terrorists from Al Quaida decided to fly a plane into a skyscraper in the United Stated. Oh so you can't dispute the fact then fiddles...And where the fuck did I state it was the fault of every British Muslim...Khan isn't fucking British is he? And look at the damage that arseole is doing...
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 27, 2024 19:46:01 GMT
"Yes they are so fucking innocent fiddles they killed 1000's on 911 along with all the other fucking murders they have committed...Did you clap on 911 fiddles?
they ... as in Muslims, you stated it here "they" killed 1000s on 911
You are blaming the attrocities of terrorists upon the entire Muslim population
Sadiq Khan, born 8th October 1970 at St Georges Hospital, Tooting, South London to working class parents, nationality British.
Stop twisting and altering what are facts to suit your bigoted way of thinking
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Post by Bentley on Feb 27, 2024 19:52:07 GMT
"Yes they are so fucking innocent fiddles they killed 1000's on 911 along with all the other fucking murders they have committed...Did you clap on 911 fiddles?
they ... as in Muslims, you stated it here "they" killed 1000s on 911 You are blaming the attrocities of terrorists upon the entire Muslim population Sadiq Khan, born 8th October 1970 at St Georges Hospital, Tooting, South London to working class parents, nationality British. Stop twisting and altering what are facts to suit your bigoted way of thinking I’m glad that you think that white privilege is a myth and white people owe nothing to to anyone regarding past slavery . After all collective guilt isn’t real is it ?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 19:55:41 GMT
What I'm saying is do you see it has hate speach and dose it stop people Speaking out against jews or the State of Israel. And I thinkJudishism/Jews Is recomixed has a race I see very little as hate speech, it is a poor word to have in law as disliking something is not hate nor is being wary of something. It is a tool of the left to close down debate and discussion and has been in operation for over 60 years. Accusations of racism used to be a worrying thing to happen now most people do not give a toss because it has been overused, overworked, overaccused and its string played out to the end and it no longer works or scares. Thesaurus: synonyms, antonyms, and examples to hate someone or something hateI hate camping. detestI detest any kind of cruelty. loathe"Do you like cabbage?" "No, I loathe it." despiseShe despised him for the way he treated her. Think all that fits islamiphophua and Anti -Semiticishm
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 27, 2024 20:06:08 GMT
Another dumb imbicile with not an ounce of intelligence, it is not the fault of every British Muslim that some terrorists from Al Quaida decided to fly a plane into a skyscraper in the United Stated. Oh so you can't dispute the fact then fiddles...And where the fuck did I state it was the fault of every British Muslim...Khan isn't fucking British is he? And look at the damage that arseole is doing... Yes, he is. I pointed this out to you the other day, but your reading skills are letting you down again.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2024 20:42:21 GMT
"Yes they are so fucking innocent fiddles they killed 1000's on 911 along with all the other fucking murders they have committed...Did you clap on 911 fiddles?
they ... as in Muslims, you stated it here "they" killed 1000s on 911 You are blaming the attrocities of terrorists upon the entire Muslim population Sadiq Khan, born 8th October 1970 at St Georges Hospital, Tooting, South London to working class parents, nationality British. Stop twisting and altering what are facts to suit your bigoted way of thinking But conceived in Pakistan fiddle,,
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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2024 20:45:07 GMT
Oh so you can't dispute the fact then fiddles...And where the fuck did I state it was the fault of every British Muslim...Khan isn't fucking British is he? And look at the damage that arseole is doing... Yes, he is. I pointed this out to you the other day, but your reading skills are letting you down again. Usual Andyism.....Who thinks he is the only fucker on this earth that can read...My reading skills are just fine Andy. Unlike you comprehension skills..
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 27, 2024 20:50:37 GMT
Yes, he is. I pointed this out to you the other day, but your reading skills are letting you down again. Usual Andyism.....Who thinks he is the only fucker on this earth that can read...My reading skills are just fine Andy. Unlike you comprehension skills.. Well, if it isn't your reading skills, what was it that led you to forget what I corrected you on only a couple of days ago? Faulty memory?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2024 20:54:28 GMT
Usual Andyism.....Who thinks he is the only fucker on this earth that can read...My reading skills are just fine Andy. Unlike you comprehension skills.. Well, if it isn't your reading skills, what was it that led you to forget what I corrected you on only a couple of days ago? Faulty memory? Oh I missed that Andy, maybe you could link to the post...
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 27, 2024 21:00:33 GMT
Well, if it isn't your reading skills, what was it that led you to forget what I corrected you on only a couple of days ago? Faulty memory? Oh I missed that Andy, maybe you could link to the post... I'll let you off if you didn't bother to read it, but please be assured that Sadiq Khan was born in Tooting, and is just as British as you and me. If you weren't sure, you shouldn't have made the claim without fact checking first. Or, if you did know, but chose to post it anyway, then you were knowingly lying.
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