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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 15, 2024 16:50:31 GMT
NO, stop lying about me. YOUR CLEARLY BIASED AND PATHETIC EARLY SHIT SHOW AGAINST HER was you playing judge and jury based upon insinuations and hearsay.
All I have done is to refuse to join you in your early clearly disgusting and biased shit show against her.
I have often pointed out that I would wait for the clear evidence that she was guilty, rather than to have clearly biased newspapers do my thinking for me, which is what the more pathetic posters on here were so eager to do. Calm down, most of us would normally wait until all the evidence before we passed judgment, but one GLARING fact is obvious, Rayner 'insisted' Boris Johnson should resign just because had to be interviewed by the police whether is is found guilty of any wrong doing, it's the fact the police have to speak to him is enough.
Now Angela Rayner finds herself in that very predicament, people are reminding her about her comments of Boris Johnson, the fact the police need to speak to her, should mean she needs to resign, this is the double standard hypocrisy we are pointing out regarding Rayner.
She said: "Boris Johnson’s Downing Street is under police investigation, how on earth can he think he can stay on as Prime Minister?"
I agree with you: it is deeply hypocritical of her to suggest Johnson needs to step down just for being investigated but she doesn't. The only mitigating factor that might be there is that surely the PM is a very different position than Deputy Leader of the Opposition. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 15, 2024 16:52:30 GMT
The Torygraph making problems and then explaining why it wasn't a problem, but only after giving nasty Tory supporters encouragement to throw more mud. The old Tory Nasty-Party never goes away. I see the Labour bot is on here attacking the messenger, which is obviously Labour's way of telling us that they support the BBC lying to the people. Do you have any evidence that the BBC is lying to people? I do mean actual evidence, not insinuation based on something someone said down the pub that they read in the Torygraph or Daily Fail. All The Best |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 15, 2024 17:03:35 GMT
Plus interest , plus penalty plus any other non declarations, accountants fees , wrongly discounted council tax and subsequent applicable penalties as well as many forthcoming years of HMRC extra scrutiny of settled evaders future tax returns all piling on the extra accountancy fees Are you really trying to suggest that £3500 (plus) tax evasion doesn't matter ?I NEVER even came close to suggesting such. All The Best In your opinion only , in mine your post was very clearly a mealy mouthed attempt to try to gloss over and excuse the left wing , gobby , ginger growler's apparent tax evasion |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 15, 2024 17:13:06 GMT
Calm down, most of us would normally wait until all the evidence before we passed judgment, but one GLARING fact is obvious, Rayner 'insisted' Boris Johnson should resign just because had to be interviewed by the police whether is is found guilty of any wrong doing, it's the fact the police have to speak to him is enough.
Now Angela Rayner finds herself in that very predicament, people are reminding her about her comments of Boris Johnson, the fact the police need to speak to her, should mean she needs to resign, this is the double standard hypocrisy we are pointing out regarding Rayner.
She said: "Boris Johnson’s Downing Street is under police investigation, how on earth can he think he can stay on as Prime Minister?"
I agree with you: it is deeply hypocritical of her to suggest Johnson needs to step down just for being investigated but she doesn't. The only mitigating factor that might be there is that surely the PM is a very different position than Deputy Leader of the Opposition. All The Best Remembering that Angela Rayner is the next potential PM, you don't honestly think she was going to let Starmer serve his full term without her backstabbing him.
While we're on that subject, maybe Starmer got wind of what she's up to, maybe he's not at stupid as we think he is, seems a lot of Labour are actually confirming Rayner is a liar and she did live with her husband at the time she's saying she did not.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 15, 2024 17:16:42 GMT
I NEVER even came close to suggesting such. All The Best In your opinion only , in mine your post was very clearly a mealy mouthed attempt to try to gloss over and excuse the left wing , gobby , ginger growler's apparent tax evasion Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and its usually full of shit. In the case of your opinion on my comments that holds very true. If you know anything at all about my posting record at a different forum you'll know I utterly despise all forms of Tax Evasion, no matter who is doing it. I have no axe to grind here, Rayner is a member of a Labour Party that has under Blair's and Starmer's leadership betrayed just about every core Labour value. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 15, 2024 17:18:51 GMT
P.S Rachel Reeves has her heart set on being the Deputy leader of Labour, think Rayner might have met her match ..... LOL
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 15, 2024 17:18:59 GMT
I agree with you: it is deeply hypocritical of her to suggest Johnson needs to step down just for being investigated but she doesn't. The only mitigating factor that might be there is that surely the PM is a very different position than Deputy Leader of the Opposition. All The Best Remembering that Angela Rayner is the next potential PM, you don't honestly think she was going to let Starmer serve his full term without her backstabbing him.
While we're on that subject, maybe Starmer got wind of what she's up to, maybe he's not at stupid as we think he is, seems a lot of Labour are actually confirming Rayner is a liar and she did live with her husband at the time she's saying she did not.
Remember that the cgt tax legislation only gives a married couple cgt exemption on owning 2 houses if they are legally separated |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 15, 2024 17:20:41 GMT
I agree with you: it is deeply hypocritical of her to suggest Johnson needs to step down just for being investigated but she doesn't. The only mitigating factor that might be there is that surely the PM is a very different position than Deputy Leader of the Opposition. All The Best Remembering that Angela Rayner is the next potential PM, you don't honestly think she was going to let Starmer serve his full term without her backstabbing him.
While we're on that subject, maybe Starmer got wind of what she's up to, maybe he's not at stupid as we think he is, seems a lot of Labour are actually confirming Rayner is a liar and she did live with her husband at the time she's saying she did not.
It is idiotic judging people based on what they might do at some indeterminate point in the future. You are the ONLY person I have seen anywhere at all expressing the view that Rayner was imminently going to stab Starmer in the back - and believing irrational conspiracy theories is even more idiotic than judging someone on what they might do 2 years from now. Heck, you might commit murder, or fiddle kids in the future, should we lock you up now just in case? All The Best |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 15, 2024 17:23:09 GMT
In your opinion only , in mine your post was very clearly a mealy mouthed attempt to try to gloss over and excuse the left wing , gobby , ginger growler's apparent tax evasion Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and its usually full of shit. In the case of your opinion on my comments that holds very true. If you know anything at all about my posting record at a different forum you'll know I utterly despise all forms of Tax Evasion, no matter who is doing it. I have no axe to grind here, Rayner is a member of a Labour Party that has under Blair's and Starmer's leadership betrayed just about every core Labour value. All The Best In that case why not condemn the shadow deputy PM instead of trying to mitigate her apparent tax evading? As far as my copinion on your mealy mouthed attempt to try to gloss over and excuse the left wing , gobby , ginger growler's apparent tax evasion.... ........if it quacks like a duck etc |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 15, 2024 17:30:23 GMT
In that case why not condemn the shadow deputy PM instead of trying to mitigate her apparent tax evading? Condemn her for what? If she's found guilty of something, then sure, throw the book at her. You seem to have already decided the outcome in your head though... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2024 17:54:04 GMT
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and its usually full of shit. In the case of your opinion on my comments that holds very true. If you know anything at all about my posting record at a different forum you'll know I utterly despise all forms of Tax Evasion, no matter who is doing it. I have no axe to grind here, Rayner is a member of a Labour Party that has under Blair's and Starmer's leadership betrayed just about every core Labour value. All The Best In that case why not condemn the shadow deputy PM instead of trying to mitigate her apparent tax evading? As far as my copinion on your mealy mouthed attempt to try to gloss over and excuse the left wing , gobby , ginger growler's apparent tax evasion.... ........if it quacks like a duck etc Even the BBC is being caught out lying by omission. The ethical standards are set very low, but then again they are a law unto themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2024 17:56:08 GMT
In that case why not condemn the shadow deputy PM instead of trying to mitigate her apparent tax evading? Condemn her for what? If she's found guilty of something, then sure, throw the book at her. You seem to have already decided the outcome in your head though... Her hypocrisy and double standards is a good start. Isn't she the one who referred to the Tories as "scum"? |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 15, 2024 18:04:47 GMT
In that case why not condemn the shadow deputy PM instead of trying to mitigate her apparent tax evading? Condemn her for what? If she's found guilty of something, then sure, throw the book at her. You seem to have already decided the outcome in your head though... Ang wanted Zahawi to resign for settling a HMRC disputed assessment , wanted BJ to resign for merely being investigated by the police, demanded tax details of Mrs Sunak and demanding that a candidate publish their personal tax return (amongst other such demands) Why do you think she should not be subjected to the same demands she insists of others? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 15, 2024 18:14:20 GMT
I agree that it is hypocrisy to not behave how you demand that others do. Totally. That said, she hasn't been found guilty other than in your insinuations.
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 15, 2024 18:29:19 GMT
I agree that it is hypocrisy to not behave how you demand that others do. Totally. That said, she hasn't been found guilty other than in your insinuations. My insinuations and no-one else's? You read /watch the media with blinkers and headphones on, ? Do you seriously think Ashcroft would have published unless 100% sure on the facts  |
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