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Post by dodgydave on Apr 9, 2024 0:37:06 GMT
You haven't got an opinion? Are you a mindless robot or something? lol. Why can't you answer simple questions? How hard is it to say if you think she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? lol. This is a website for "politcal debate". How are you engaging in debate exactly? All you seem to do is blindly defend people on the left, and offer no reasoning for that defense other than "it's right wing lies". Again, if you only want to talk about proven facts (although you bizarrely insist they must be proven in a court of law), then that is not really debate is it... its more like a news broadcast. I refuse to answer insinuations. Insinuations are the weapons used by the the sick people in society the more so when they are a part of a clearly biased posts. Why have you resorted to insinuating a lie about me? I have weighed up the pros and cons offered by different posters, they are overwhelmingly full of attacks on Rayner. i.e. full of opinions. As there is no positive evidence either way, as far as I'm concerned it remains on the 'unknown' shelf for me. I don't have any interest in the repeated bile posted against her because I cannot prove one why or the other whether she is innocent or guilty. So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer?
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 9, 2024 7:33:57 GMT
I refuse to answer insinuations. Insinuations are the weapons used by the the sick people in society the more so when they are a part of a clearly biased posts. Why have you resorted to insinuating a lie about me? I have weighed up the pros and cons offered by different posters, they are overwhelmingly full of attacks on Rayner. i.e. full of opinions. As there is no positive evidence either way, as far as I'm concerned it remains on the 'unknown' shelf for me. I don't have any interest in the repeated bile posted against her because I cannot prove one why or the other whether she is innocent or guilty. So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? Let's pretend this was Boris Johnson, you'd get your answer loud and crystal clear from see2, he's guilty as charged, a police investigation is needed, he needs to resign immediately, and then we need a full inquiry in to his unforgivable dishonesty......... but it's Ange so he'll make up all excuses under the sun for her, and he will avoid acknowledging any disapproval of her dishonesty and shiftiness, but after all he is one of those double standard lefty hypocrites, so only to be expected.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2024 8:12:39 GMT
I refuse to answer insinuations. Insinuations are the weapons used by the the sick people in society the more so when they are a part of a clearly biased posts. Why have you resorted to insinuating a lie about me? I have weighed up the pros and cons offered by different posters, they are overwhelmingly full of attacks on Rayner. i.e. full of opinions. As there is no positive evidence either way, as far as I'm concerned it remains on the 'unknown' shelf for me. I don't have any interest in the repeated bile posted against her because I cannot prove one why or the other whether she is innocent or guilty. So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? And I am simply denying you to allow you to drag me into your utterly biased nonsense
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2024 8:17:14 GMT
So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? Let's pretend this was Boris Johnson, you'd get your answer loud and crystal clear from see2, he's guilty as charged, a police investigation is needed, he needs to resign immediately, and then we need a full inquiry in to his unforgivable dishonesty......... but it's Ange so he'll make up all excuses under the sun for her, and he will avoid acknowledging any disapproval of her dishonesty and shiftiness, but after all he is one of those double standard lefty hypocrites, so only to be expected. I only ever attacked Boris when he was clearly guilty. Its not difficult to understand, so don't associate all criticisms of Boris with me. If only you and others had the same approach.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 9, 2024 8:52:35 GMT
Let's pretend this was Boris Johnson, you'd get your answer loud and crystal clear from see2, he's guilty as charged, a police investigation is needed, he needs to resign immediately, and then we need a full inquiry in to his unforgivable dishonesty......... but it's Ange so he'll make up all excuses under the sun for her, and he will avoid acknowledging any disapproval of her dishonesty and shiftiness, but after all he is one of those double standard lefty hypocrites, so only to be expected. I only ever attacked Boris when he was clearly guilty. Its not difficult to understand, so don't associate all criticisms of Boris with me. If only you and others had the same approach. So how many 'righties' do you see on this forum praising the Tory leader Sunak?
If anything the righties on here trash him more than the lefties, that's because deep down he's a closet lefty liberal, unlike you lefties who dare not say a bad word about flip flop lying Starmer ... notice the difference?
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 9, 2024 11:31:08 GMT
So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? And I am simply denying you to allow you to drag me into your utterly biased nonsense You keep yelling "biased", yet you never explain what this bias is supposed to be. Exactly what is my bias? Bias against tax dodgers?
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 9, 2024 11:35:43 GMT
Hmmm interesting.
Both Starmer and Reeves have now publicly said that they "have not seen the expert advise".
Deniability at it's finest.
Amazingly, Labour choose to now to announce a plan to clamp down on "tax dodgers" lol.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 9, 2024 11:36:55 GMT
Hmmm interesting. Both Starmer and Reeves have now publicly said that they "have not seen the expert advise". Deniability at it's finest. Amazingly, Labour choose to now to announce a plan to clamp down on "tax dodgers" lol. Yes, but they don't mean them.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 9, 2024 11:59:27 GMT
I refuse to answer insinuations. Insinuations are the weapons used by the the sick people in society the more so when they are a part of a clearly biased posts. Why have you resorted to insinuating a lie about me? I have weighed up the pros and cons offered by different posters, they are overwhelmingly full of attacks on Rayner. i.e. full of opinions. As there is no positive evidence either way, as far as I'm concerned it remains on the 'unknown' shelf for me. I don't have any interest in the repeated bile posted against her because I cannot prove one why or the other whether she is innocent or guilty. So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? I would have thought that was obvious. Dyed in the wool lefties are diametrically opposed to common sense. Fortunately most of them grow out of it.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2024 9:11:45 GMT
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Post by see2 on Apr 10, 2024 10:42:01 GMT
I only ever attacked Boris when he was clearly guilty. Its not difficult to understand, so don't associate all criticisms of Boris with me. If only you and others had the same approach. So how many 'righties' do you see on this forum praising the Tory leader Sunak?
If anything the righties on here trash him more than the lefties, that's because deep down he's a closet lefty liberal, unlike you lefties who dare not say a bad word about flip flop lying Starmer ... notice the difference?
I know you are a slow learner so for the umpteenth time, I am not a leftie. The difference is the repetitive shower of dishonest denigration, insults and insinuated lies thrown at Starmer by mindless Righties, as in your post above?
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Post by see2 on Apr 10, 2024 10:47:51 GMT
So your opinion is... you don't have an opinion... so what is the point of posting on a debating platform? I am simply asking you if you believe she lived apart from her husband for the first five years of their marriage? Why is that so hard for you to answer? I would have thought that was obvious. Dyed in the wool lefties are diametrically opposed to common sense. Fortunately most of them grow out of it. I often refuse to debate, or get tired of debate when the opposition makes it obvious they are clearly totally blinded by their bias.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 10, 2024 11:00:04 GMT
I'm afraid she is toast, The Mail on Sunday have trawled through her social media to prove she lived with her husband. Labour has cancelled all the social media ads she features in and she is back in hiding. Looks like we will get 10-15 years of an un-challenged Starmer now, which on the bright side will be more stable for the country, just not much Socialism going on lol. Stable? Starmer is more prone to flip-flopping because of perceived public opinion than any MP in my lifetime. He has no political principles for which he is prepared to stand on a line and say "no more"; he will sacrifice them all just to keep his snout in the trough. Fuck me, I'd rather another Tory government than 10 years of Starmer, and you have no idea how much I despise the current Tory party. All The Best
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Post by see2 on Apr 10, 2024 11:11:40 GMT
And I am simply denying you to allow you to drag me into your utterly biased nonsense You keep yelling "biased", yet you never explain what this bias is supposed to be. Exactly what is my bias? Bias against tax dodgers? No I don't so don't lie about me. Your single minded repeated attacks on her expose your bias. You never seem to question the validity of the so called evidence against her, and take your opinions as if they were facts. You have adopted a judge and jury approach. Your conclusions might be correct, I don't know, I just totally dislike you nasty insinuating clearly very biased approach. So I prefer to laugh at them rather than to be aggravated by them.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 10, 2024 11:15:22 GMT
You keep yelling "biased", yet you never explain what this bias is supposed to be. Exactly what is my bias? Bias against tax dodgers? No I don't so don't lie about me. Your single minded repeated attacks on her expose your bias. You never seem to question the validity of the so called evidence against her, and take your opinions as if they were facts. You have adopted a judge and jury approach. Your conclusions might be correct, I don't know, I just totally dislike you nasty insinuating clearly very biased approach. So I prefer to laugh at them rather than to be aggravated by them. I don't keep yelling biased. You posts expose your bias. Am I the only one who sees the anomaly here? All The Best
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