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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2024 13:12:10 GMT
I suppose it makes sence to you lefty old bean..The rest of us wonder what the fuck your wittering about.. Oh well Mr Crook Supporter Just had a look in my address book lefty old bean...I haven't a Mr Crook listed....I do have a Mr Cook tho.. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 27, 2024 13:24:59 GMT
Starmer is fucking useless. What like Brexit what Farage Admitted it Failed? Brexit hasn't failed, nor did he say it had. And you know it.What he was saying was that it provided opportunities which the Tories have failed to take advantage of, and which Keir Starmer wanted to throw away completely. Opportunities to scrap EU taxes, opportunities to scrap unnecessary tariffs (on things we don't grow or make). Opportunities to negotiate bilateral FTAs. Meanwhile, Keir Starmer is fucking useless. He single handedly cost Labour the last election and then had the hubris to stand for leader. What a complete and total arse. If I had single handedly cost my party an election (not that I'm in one), I would stand down and retire from politics. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 13:55:56 GMT
What like Brexit what Farage Admitted it Failed? Brexit hasn't failed, nor did he say it had. And you know it.What he was saying was that it provided opportunities which the Tories have failed to take advantage of, and which Keir Starmer wanted to throw away completely. Opportunities to scrap EU taxes, opportunities to scrap unnecessary tariffs (on things we don't grow or make). Opportunities to negotiate bilateral FTAs. Meanwhile, Keir Starmer is fucking useless. He single handedly cost Labour the last election and then had the hubris to stand for leader. What a complete and total arse. If I had single handedly cost my party an election (not that I'm in one), I would stand down and retire from politics. Oh foolish him and you be vote Conservative in 2019 when Borris said let's get Brexit done but didn't. One minute you're saying it hasn't failed then your saying it had because of the Torres |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 27, 2024 14:04:50 GMT
Foolish Starmer for going back on his word after saying more than 50 times no second referendum and then calling for one before we'd even left.
Labour heartlands are Brexit heartlands.
And btw, you still haven't told us of anything that warranted paying £9.5 billion (as it was) post rebate.
Or why we should return (we wouldn't get a rebate), we'd be paying £22.7 billion a year if we did.
And we'd be worse off for it.
So why would you want to go back?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 14:42:08 GMT
Foolish Starmer for going back on his word after saying more than 50 times no second referendum and then calling for one before we'd even left. Labour heartlands are Brexit heartlands. And btw, you still haven't told us of anything that warranted paying £9.5 billion (as it was) post rebate. Or why we should return (we wouldn't get a rebate), we'd be paying £22.7 billion a year if we did. And we'd be worse off for it. So why would you want to go back? Well the red wall will return even they Starmer Said we will have Closer ties with the Eu .them like the Marjorty of the Country Smelt the coffee . The £22,7 billion is a brop in the 5% with lost in the Economy sInce Brexit what would be init's trillions. Factory's and high street Business are Closing down everyday . Unemployment is raising Quater on qouter Since 2020.were getting cheap nasty food brought in what unfit for Consumption . Need i go on anymore |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 27, 2024 14:53:26 GMT
We haven't lost 5% in the economy mate that's bollocks.
We're exporting more than we did when we were members so how can that be the case?
Factories were closing all over the place when we were members, it's only Brexit which has saved industries.
Want to save more businesses?
Cut taxes at the bottom, raise them at the top.
We couldn't do that when we were in the EU.
We can now.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 15:06:38 GMT
We haven't lost 5% in the economy mate that's bollocks. We're exporting more than we did when we were members so how can that be the case? Factories were closing all over the place when we were members, it's only Brexit which has saved industries. Want to save more businesses? Cut taxes at the bottom, raise them at the top. We couldn't do that when we were in the EU. We can now. What factorys are them the car manufacturers like you pointed out but moved to EU Country lol. Or when we had the highest output level.in 2007 .has for trade higher exports a lot Leas imports but much higher deficit . Super trade deal? With Australia but They trade mark with the Eu 3 times more than UK. You failed on every point |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 27, 2024 15:15:30 GMT
The deal with Australia will cut food prices.
And we still have free trade with the EU.
The lower pound is better for exports.
Quit whining.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 15:47:46 GMT
The deal with Australia will cut food prices. And we still have free trade with the EU. The lower pound is better for exports. Quit whining. Fair price are they food inflation still rising if you haven't noticed. You said that about manufacturers but I shown you the UK was the Cheapest manufacturer in western Europe before the pound Dropped. Your winning what the race to.the Bottom. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 27, 2024 16:22:23 GMT
Food inflation is happening in France, Germany, Belgium, Italy.
All over the world, everything is interlinked and what has Brexit got to do with that?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 27, 2024 16:45:42 GMT
Food inflation is happening in France, Germany, Belgium, Italy. All over the world, everything is interlinked and what has Brexit got to do with that? I'm sure we had much higher. Inflation. Then country we had 17% I think it was a 40+ high What's has food inflation got to do with Brezit has well has importing cheap natsy Food and seeing were importing less goods And have a higher deficit it's obvious were importing more expensive products like food.. Plus were in a recession. Post Brexit. No its a race to the bottom. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 28, 2024 8:08:02 GMT
Nothing to do with Brexit, it's the legacy of the COVID debts plus war in Ukraine.
The necessary sanctions have been pushing fuel prices up.
Ukraine, a major agricultural supplier being so heavily under attack, has not been able to supply so much food.
We can cut tariffs to zero and have cheap imports if we wish, we can raise them on things we make and support local industry. But, Ukraine is not able to supply anywhere near what it used to, because of the war and that affects prices.
Brexit is simply independence it is not a problem.
What is a problem is that combed over killer in the Kremlin with a Napoleon complex. And all across the developed world there has been inflation.
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