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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2024 10:59:59 GMT
Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014 and Trump did fuck all about the illegal occupation of Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea. Trump also sided with Putin against the CIA in 2018. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44852812Trump did nothing to avenge the Russian MPs Putin has murdered. And despite knowing full well that Putin has turned Russia into a dictatorship, he mostly continued pandering to Putin. He's as much to blame as any NATO leader. Ah, the same Russia that meddled with Brexit! May be they did, maybe they didn't, but I bet Putin sank a few Vodkas celebrating Brexit.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 19, 2024 11:07:31 GMT
Ah, the same Russia that meddled with Brexit! May be they did, maybe they didn't, but I bet Putin sank a few Vodkas celebrating Brexit.
Thanks to Brexit we would be shackled by Russia & EU, just like the EU had the UK shackled.
The UK and EU have introduced full or partial bans on Russian coal and oil. The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas, but has introduced policies aimed at moving away from dependence on it.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 19, 2024 11:19:27 GMT
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 11:22:40 GMT
May be they did, maybe they didn't, but I bet Putin sank a few Vodkas celebrating Brexit.
Thanks to Brexit we would be shackled by Russia & EU, just like the EU had the UK shackled.
The UK and EU have introduced full or partial bans on Russian coal and oil. The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas, but has introduced policies aimed at moving away from dependence on it.
Couple of things 1 the EU relies much more on Gas from Russia that's what the pipeline is about. But has introduced policies moving away from it Surly that better than relying on it than Britain would after the ban |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 11:23:59 GMT
It's a low credibility lefty site that is stuck in the 1930s. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2024 11:28:00 GMT
But not before Putin's invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Trump negotiated the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, then, as president, he sat on his arse for 9 months and did nothing in terms of what needed to be done on withdrawing troops, leaving very little time for Biden to organise withdrawal troops. Then he had the shitty mindedness to attack Biden's cleaning up of the mess he left. Trump gets away with far too much, lies, deceptions, distortions, extremism, stupidity like injecting Dettol or such like to fight Covid. WELL DONE. Uneducated nonsense like this fits right into Trump's "fake news" narrative. Your attitude to Trump is the reason he still has so much support. If you use nonsense to attack him, instead of why he actually was not a good President, his supporters will point to that nonsense and invalidate your whole argument. Biden IGNORED the advice of his military top brass and pulled air support too early, which caused the chaos and got American's killed. Is it all proven fact, people testified to the official enquiry into what went wrong. Trump wanting to pull out is a separate argument. Trump never said people should inject or drink bleach. He was presented with a scientific study that said sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces. To which he responded: "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
From those comments, Biden said Trump had "told people to drink Bleach", and we wonder why Trump's "fake news" narrative gets so much traction. Your first comment is pure foolish bigoted nonsense. Your second comment ignores the reality of Trump's 9 months of doing nothing leaving Biden a little over 3 months to do everything. Why would you even want to do that? Trump making an agreement with a DATE, with the Afghans, to withdraw from Afghanistan has everything to do with the problems of withdrawing form Afghanistan. Claiming it doesn't is a typical Trump style lie. There is a video of Trump, which I have seen, where he makes a stumbling attempt about using disinfectant as a means of fighting off a Covid attack. As you are so keen on research I suggest you research that video. And stop looking for excuses for Trump. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2024 11:30:33 GMT
May be they did, maybe they didn't, but I bet Putin sank a few Vodkas celebrating Brexit.
Thanks to Brexit we would be shackled by Russia & EU, just like the EU had the UK shackled.
The UK and EU have introduced full or partial bans on Russian coal and oil. The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas, but has introduced policies aimed at moving away from dependence on it.
Just your biased opinion. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 19, 2024 11:34:32 GMT
Thanks to Brexit we would be shackled by Russia & EU, just like the EU had the UK shackled.
The UK and EU have introduced full or partial bans on Russian coal and oil. The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas, but has introduced policies aimed at moving away from dependence on it.
Just your biased opinion. How can it be biased when I am quoting 'FACTS'?
If you don't agree with a poster you accuse them of being a liar, or of being biased, it's the reason you can't be taken seriously, and your posts are dismissed as nonsense.
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2024 11:41:44 GMT
It's a low credibility lefty site that is stuck in the 1930s. It hits the foolishness of the easily led masses nail, right on the head. It clarifies the reality of what actually happened then and the shades of it that is happening right now. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2024 11:45:47 GMT
Just your biased opinion. How can it be biased when I am quoting 'FACTS'?
If you don't agree with a poster you accuse them of being a liar, or of being biased, it's the reason you can't be taken seriously, and your posts are dismissed as nonsense.
The "facts" exist in your own mind. Lets see how many rules and regulations the UK has to deal with once it settles down in the market place it will be dealing with. When you learn to question yourself, you just might be in a place to question me. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 19, 2024 11:49:24 GMT
I see that self-awareness is not very prevalent at 'who what why' Today, much of the world is again asking itself whether democracy is really the system of government they want. The notion articulated by Abraham Lincoln that there should be a “government by the people and for the people” is under attack, even in the United States. A significant number of people would prefer “government for some of the people, to be decided by the right people.”Today it's the Democrats who are trying to prevent the people's choice of Republican candidate from running - seems that only people approved by the Democratic Party are allowed to run for election..  |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 19, 2024 11:52:01 GMT
But not before Putin's invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Trump negotiated the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, then, as president, he sat on his arse for 9 months and did nothing in terms of what needed to be done on withdrawing troops, leaving very little time for Biden to organise withdrawal troops. Then he had the shitty mindedness to attack Biden's cleaning up of the mess he left. Trump gets away with far too much, lies, deceptions, distortions, extremism, stupidity like injecting Dettol or such like to fight Covid. WELL DONE. Uneducated nonsense like this fits right into Trump's "fake news" narrative. Your attitude to Trump is the reason he still has so much support. If you use nonsense to attack him, instead of why he actually was not a good President, his supporters will point to that nonsense and invalidate your whole argument. Biden IGNORED the advice of his military top brass and pulled air support too early, which caused the chaos and got American's killed. Is it all proven fact, people testified to the official enquiry into what went wrong. Trump wanting to pull out is a separate argument. Trump never said people should inject or drink bleach. He was presented with a scientific study that said sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces. To which he responded: "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
From those comments, Biden said Trump had "told people to drink Bleach", and we wonder why Trump's "fake news" narrative gets so much traction. He mused over the injection of disinfectant not the ingestion of bleach. Man's an arse, so too is Biden. Both are too old for office. Trump is too senile and too corrupt for office |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 19, 2024 11:54:00 GMT
May be they did, maybe they didn't, but I bet Putin sank a few Vodkas celebrating Brexit.
Thanks to Brexit we would be shackled by Russia & EU, just like the EU had the UK shackled.
The UK and EU have introduced full or partial bans on Russian coal and oil. The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas, but has introduced policies aimed at moving away from dependence on it.
How can it be biased when I am quoting 'FACTS'?
If you don't agree with a poster you accuse them of being a liar, or of being biased, it's the reason you can't be taken seriously, and your posts are dismissed as nonsense.
The "facts" exist in your own mind. Lets see how many rules and regulations the UK has to deal with once it settles down in the market place it will be dealing with. When you learn to question yourself, you just might be in a place to question me. So where is it in my own mind?
"The UK banned imports of Russian gas from the start of 2023. The EU has not agreed a ban on Russian gas"
That ^^ is FACT, not in my mind, why do you continue to make a complete and utter fool of yourself?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 19, 2024 12:32:52 GMT
From a frigging lefty site FFS... |
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Post by dodgydave on Feb 19, 2024 13:45:46 GMT
Your first comment is pure foolish bigoted nonsense. Your second comment ignores the reality of Trump's 9 months of doing nothing leaving Biden a little over 3 months to do everything. Why would you even want to do that? Trump making an agreement with a DATE, with the Afghans, to withdraw from Afghanistan has everything to do with the problems of withdrawing form Afghanistan. Claiming it doesn't is a typical Trump style lie. There is a video of Trump, which I have seen, where he makes a stumbling attempt about using disinfectant as a means of fighting off a Covid attack. As you are so keen on research I suggest you research that video. And stop looking for excuses for Trump. You do not answer any points, and you appear to have zero knowledge of anything, you keep keep parroting something you heard / read. 1) I literally posted the full transcript of what he said and you say I should watch the video??? The transcript is what he said in the video you moron lol. Show me which part of that transcript matches what you accused him of. Good luck because he never said it. He was spitballing that maybe DOCTORS could inject the infected areas to kill the virus. Hardly a wacko idea considering the medical profession already do things like cleaning blood, and killing cells with chemotherapy. 2) Again, you ignore the point about Biden pulling air support for the Afghan army, which was against the advice of his generals. That meant the Taliban advanced far faster than predicted and was why the evacuation was such a disaster. 3) I am not excusing Trump. I am STICKING TO FACTS. As I have explained countless times, when morons like you keep repeating lies you increase the validity of his "fake news" narratives. Stick to the wrong things Trump actually did, and stop blanket protecting Biden. People like you are literally making Trump get ahead in the polls. 4) You keep throwing the words bigot and bias around, you are literally the most bigotted and biased person on here. Prove me wrong. Name some things Trump got right, and name some things Biden got wrong. |
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