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Post by thomas on Feb 18, 2024 16:22:24 GMT
It's a drop in the ocean he didn't avoid paying any tax There is no suggestion the Blairs actively tried to avoid paying the tax and the transaction was not illegal Compair that the someone who moved to a tax haven to avoid paying tax see the difference doesn't matter the principle is the same. You can't moan about one person , but ignore the other. Typical Labour Party mentality . The politics of envy , except when its one of your heroes..... Was there any suggestion of Ratcliffe doing something illegal? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 16:35:11 GMT
It's a drop in the ocean he didn't avoid paying any tax There is no suggestion the Blairs actively tried to avoid paying the tax and the transaction was not illegal Compair that the someone who moved to a tax haven to avoid paying tax see the difference doesn't matter the principle is the same. You can't moan about one person , but ignore the other. Typical Labour Party mentality . The politics of envy , except when its one of your heroes..... Was there any suggestion of Ratcliffe doing something illegal? I've not said anything about him doing anything illegal. Just comments he not paying his full tax it's called tax Avoidance. Why you trying to.put In my mouth He's cheating the tax man of billions You don't seem. To.mind that. Why do you think.Governments over time have said they cut loopholes be never have done. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 18, 2024 16:46:27 GMT
doesn't matter the principle is the same. You can't moan about one person , but ignore the other. Typical Labour Party mentality . The politics of envy , except when its one of your heroes..... Was there any suggestion of Ratcliffe doing something illegal? I've not said anything about him doing anything illegal. Just comments he not paying his full tax it's called tax Avoidance. Why you trying to.put In my mouth He's cheating the tax man of billions You don't seem. To.mind that. Why do you think.Governments over time have said they cut loopholes be never have done. ok so what exactly is your point then? Apart from moaning about one man legally avoiding paying tax , but being extremely quiet on another doing the same ? I dont have a problem with it. You do. This is the issue people have with labour , all the virtue signalling over issues like legal tax avoidance , then when it's one of their own , they go silent . You can't see how hypocritical it makes you look. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 17:04:27 GMT
I've not said anything about him doing anything illegal. Just comments he not paying his full tax it's called tax Avoidance. Why you trying to.put In my mouth He's cheating the tax man of billions You don't seem. To.mind that. Why do you think.Governments over time have said they cut loopholes be never have done. ok so what exactly is your point then? Apart from moaning about one man legally avoiding paying tax , but being extremely quiet on another doing the same ? I dont have a problem with it. You do. This is the issue people have with labour , all the virtue signalling over issues like legal tax avoidance , then when it's one of their own , they go silent . You can't see how hypocritical it makes you look. You don't mind it but part of your hate towards labour is that it's costing the Scottish tax payer much needed public Services. Like hospitals 30bn. But you don't mind tax Avoidance In total, the data supplied by HMRC showed that UK taxpayers had £570bn held in tax haven bank accounts as of 2019. HMRC's estimate of the Tax Gap for all types of non-compliance by wealthy taxpayers is £1.2bn. Another area of concern is the payment of corporate subsidies via the tax system.23 Jun 2022 www.taxwatchuk.org › tax_... HMRC's Tax Gap 2022 Edition – TaxWatch Briefing Take your head for a wobble Thomas. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 18, 2024 17:14:21 GMT
ok so what exactly is your point then? Apart from moaning about one man legally avoiding paying tax , but being extremely quiet on another doing the same ? I dont have a problem with it. You do. This is the issue people have with labour , all the virtue signalling over issues like legal tax avoidance , then when it's one of their own , they go silent . You can't see how hypocritical it makes you look. You don't mind it but part of your hate towards labour is that it's costing the Scottish tax payer much needed public Services. Like hospitals 30bn. But you don't mind tax Avoidance Former labour leaders like Blair avoid tax , and party backers avoid tax , not a peep. When its someone you dont like , you scream .As I said , hypocrisy is never a good look , hence why so many detest labour.... Labour backer says £1.65m donation was given in shares to avoid tax
Admission by John Mills prompts accusations of hypocrisy against party
The Labour party's biggest financial backer, John Mills, has admitted his donation was given to the party in the form of shares early this year in order to minimise the amount of tax he would have to pay, relative to the cost to him if he gave the money in the form of a donation.
Mills told the Daily Telegraph that it was more tax efficient to make the donation in the form of shares. If he had given £1.65m from his own income he would have had to pay nearly half of that sum to the taxman. There have been repeated calls for donations to political parties to be made tax-free.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/06/labour-party-backer-donation-tax
Sir Keir Starmer is accused of hypocrisy as details emerge of his ‘unique pension deal allowing him to avoid tax on his savings’ while he campaigns against Government reforms for high earners
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887999/Keir-Starmer-accused-hypocrisy-deal-allowing-avoid-tax-pension.html#:~:text=Labour%20leader%20Sir%20Keir%20Starmer,it%20was%20claimed%20last%20night. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 17:29:36 GMT
You don't mind it but part of your hate towards labour is that it's costing the Scottish tax payer much needed public Services. Like hospitals 30bn. But you don't mind tax Avoidance Former labour leaders like Blair avoid tax , and party backers avoid tax , not a peep. When its someone you dont like , you scream .As I said , hypocrisy is never a good look , hence why so many detest labour.... Labour backer says £1.65m donation was given in shares to avoid tax
Admission by John Mills prompts accusations of hypocrisy against party
The Labour party's biggest financial backer, John Mills, has admitted his donation was given to the party in the form of shares early this year in order to minimise the amount of tax he would have to pay, relative to the cost to him if he gave the money in the form of a donation.
Mills told the Daily Telegraph that it was more tax efficient to make the donation in the form of shares. If he had given £1.65m from his own income he would have had to pay nearly half of that sum to the taxman. There have been repeated calls for donations to political parties to be made tax-free.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/06/labour-party-backer-donation-tax
Sir Keir Starmer is accused of hypocrisy as details emerge of his ‘unique pension deal allowing him to avoid tax on his savings’ while he campaigns against Government reforms for high earners
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887999/Keir-Starmer-accused-hypocrisy-deal-allowing-avoid-tax-pension.html#:~:text=Labour%20leader%20Sir%20Keir%20Starmer,it%20was%20claimed%20last%20night.Oh well you don't mind it what your problem is this Hypocrisy by you n. There have been repeated calls for donations to political parties to be made tax-free. [ It seems all political parties won't to avoid tax on Donations So.don't just put it on. Labour door Anyway I stoopened talking on this subject If you want to Continue take it Somewhere else. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 18, 2024 17:36:24 GMT
Former labour leaders like Blair avoid tax , and party backers avoid tax , not a peep. When its someone you dont like , you scream .As I said , hypocrisy is never a good look , hence why so many detest labour.... Labour backer says £1.65m donation was given in shares to avoid tax
Admission by John Mills prompts accusations of hypocrisy against party
The Labour party's biggest financial backer, John Mills, has admitted his donation was given to the party in the form of shares early this year in order to minimise the amount of tax he would have to pay, relative to the cost to him if he gave the money in the form of a donation.
Mills told the Daily Telegraph that it was more tax efficient to make the donation in the form of shares. If he had given £1.65m from his own income he would have had to pay nearly half of that sum to the taxman. There have been repeated calls for donations to political parties to be made tax-free.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/06/labour-party-backer-donation-tax
Sir Keir Starmer is accused of hypocrisy as details emerge of his ‘unique pension deal allowing him to avoid tax on his savings’ while he campaigns against Government reforms for high earners
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887999/Keir-Starmer-accused-hypocrisy-deal-allowing-avoid-tax-pension.html#:~:text=Labour%20leader%20Sir%20Keir%20Starmer,it%20was%20claimed%20last%20night.Oh well you don't mind it what your problem is this Hypocrisy by you n. There have been repeated calls for donations to political parties to be made tax-free. [ It seems all political parties won't to avoid tax on Donations So.don't just put it on. Labour door Anyway I stoopened talking on this subject If you want to Continue take it Somewhere else. what hypocrisy is there coming from me? You won't find a post on this forum from me moaning about legal tax avoidance. You , on the other hand are ,while remaining silent on the Labour Party , the Labour Party backers ,Labour Party former and current politicians all doing the same thing in principle you are moaning about Ratcliffe doing. As I said , hypocrisy and the politics of envy. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 18, 2024 17:45:08 GMT
Importing people with no recognised qualifications to perform surgery on British people is a crazy idea. They claim they will be supervised, but by who? Obviously not by qualified British dentists. I can see this leading to a lot of malpractice suits, which will cost the NHS. Still, I am sure the usual crazies will be insisting on more immigration. this another benefit of Brexit? To the Country under qualified Medical staff this is fuck all to do with Brexit. While still part of the European Superstate the authorising body set up to issue certificates of fitness to practice in the UK were forced to issue them to anyone presenting evidence of fitness to practice in the EU which led directly to the death of a patient wrongly prescribed a dose of a prescription medicine by a Locum resident in Germany unfamiliar with the process because the german health system implement a different treatment. So the system in place when we were forced to recognise EU qualifications killed a british citizen in a british nhs hospital by failing to check staff certified to practice there really were fit to do so |
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Post by see2 on Feb 18, 2024 18:05:54 GMT
this another benefit of Brexit? To the Country under qualified Medical staff this is fuck all to do with Brexit. While still part of the European Superstate the authorising body set up to issue certificates of fitness to practice in the UK were forced to issue them to anyone presenting evidence of fitness to practice in the EU which led directly to the death of a patient wrongly prescribed a dose of a prescription medicine by a Locum resident in Germany unfamiliar with the process because the german health system implement a different treatment. So the system in place when we were forced to recognise EU qualifications killed a british citizen in a british nhs hospital by failing to check staff certified to practice there really were fit to do so No it didn't, the incompetence of the those trusted to know, and had a responsibility to know, what they were doing made the error that led to someone's death. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 18, 2024 18:07:57 GMT
As of May 2023, the Sunday Times Rich List 2023 estimated his net worth at £29.688 billion, making him the second wealthiest figure in the UK. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098I have no access to Sir Jim’s tax returns, but as it’s been publicly stated several times in business news media — without contradiction — that moving to Monaco would save him an estimated £4 billion a year in tax, I’ll accept it could be more. We dont tax based on net worth. To be liable for £4 Billion a year in tax he would need an income of £10 Billion - nobody has that. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 18, 2024 20:32:32 GMT
this is fuck all to do with Brexit. While still part of the European Superstate the authorising body set up to issue certificates of fitness to practice in the UK were forced to issue them to anyone presenting evidence of fitness to practice in the EU which led directly to the death of a patient wrongly prescribed a dose of a prescription medicine by a Locum resident in Germany unfamiliar with the process because the german health system implement a different treatment. So the system in place when we were forced to recognise EU qualifications killed a british citizen in a british nhs hospital by failing to check staff certified to practice there really were fit to do so No it didn't, the incompetence of the those trusted to know, and had a responsibility to know, what they were doing made the error that led to someone's death. Wrong. Our membership of the eu FORCED us to accept that doctor as fit to work in this country. Had we been in the EEC and had the 1957 Treaty of Rome not been fucked about by globalist bastards, no person could have forced an EEC country to let them work in the PUBLIC services as i have said many times the 1957 treaty in the original french as supplied to me stated categorically the right to work in another country extended ONLY to the PRIVATE sector and then only if the country admitting the foreign worker did not rule such employment against the interests of the state's own citizens
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 18, 2024 20:34:12 GMT
As of May 2023, the Sunday Times Rich List 2023 estimated his net worth at £29.688 billion, making him the second wealthiest figure in the UK. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098I have no access to Sir Jim’s tax returns, but as it’s been publicly stated several times in business news media — without contradiction — that moving to Monaco would save him an estimated £4 billion a year in tax, I’ll accept it could be more. We dont tax based on net worth. To be liable for £4 Billion a year in tax he would need an income of £10 Billion - nobody has that. Someone hasn't checked sunak's slush funds ........
On a separate issue, maybe we SHOULD tax people on net worth. I'm all for it.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 20:39:28 GMT
We dont tax based on net worth. To be liable for £4 Billion a year in tax he would need an income of £10 Billion - nobody has that. Someone hasn't checked sunak's slush funds ........
On a separate issue, maybe we SHOULD tax people on net worth. I'm all for it.
Define net worth for me please , John. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 18, 2024 22:04:26 GMT
We dont tax based on net worth. To be liable for £4 Billion a year in tax he would need an income of £10 Billion - nobody has that. Someone hasn't checked sunak's slush funds ........
On a separate issue, maybe we SHOULD tax people on net worth. I'm all for it.
Trouble is how you measure non traded assets. For example you might put your house up for sale for £1 million after your estate agent has valued it for £1 million but if nobody buys it then it is plainly not worth £1 Million. So how much tax would you pay? |
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Post by see2 on Feb 18, 2024 23:36:15 GMT
No it didn't, the incompetence of the those trusted to know, and had a responsibility to know, what they were doing made the error that led to someone's death. Wrong. Our membership of the eu FORCED us to accept that doctor as fit to work in this country. Had we been in the EEC and had the 1957 Treaty of Rome not been fucked about by globalist bastards, no person could have forced an EEC country to let them work in the PUBLIC services as i have said many times the 1957 treaty in the original french as supplied to me stated categorically the right to work in another country extended ONLY to the PRIVATE sector and then only if the country admitting the foreign worker did not rule such employment against the interests of the state's own citizens
Freedom of Movement does not not mean that hiring trained doctors from other countries allows them to ignore UK requirements. Not Doctors or any other skilled or professional worker has the freedom to make mistakes because they did not know UK procedures. |
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