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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 13:25:53 GMT
It's a drop in the ocean he didn't avoid paying any tax There is no suggestion the Blairs actively tried to avoid paying the tax and the transaction was not illegal Compair that the someone who moved to a tax haven to avoid paying tax see the difference |
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Post by patman post on Feb 18, 2024 13:28:35 GMT
Urm work. It out yourself. Urn, you made the accusation. You prove it . Afaik his company hasn’t moved company assets to Monaco. He hadn’t moved the company headquarters to Monaco. He hasn’t put £17.5 billion in a suitcase and flown out to Monaco ….so. He's moved to Monaco to live . Have you ever been to Monaco ? He doesn’t have to ship £17.5 billion to Monaco — The Guardian reported at the time: Ratcliffe, a petrochemicals magnate with an estimated £17.5bn fortune, has this week officially changed his tax domicile from Hampshire to Monaco, the sovereign city-state that is already home to many of the UK’s richest people. It has been estimated that the move will save him £4bn in tax payments. People who live in Monaco for at least 183 days a year do not pay any income or property taxes. The highest tax rate in the UK is 45% on income above £150,000-a-year. www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicileWhy would a visit to Monaco enlighten any side of this debate — is the dentistry free…? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 13:31:50 GMT
What' I'm saying his money will.follow him Me..How much DID he shift? You..4 bn pounds So you made a rather stupid false claim and are now moving the goal posts to a prediction. lol. What false claim and what goal post have I moved |
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Post by patman post on Feb 18, 2024 13:35:04 GMT
Returning to dentists: Sir K. WOOD asked the Prime Minister whether he has given consideration to the Report of the Committee appointed to inquire into the extent and gravity of the evils of dental practice by unqualified persons; and whether he pro- Toggle showing location of Column 604 poses to introduce legislation prohibiting the practice of dentistry by such persons and the establishment of a public dental service? hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1919-03-06/debates/5774fb69-3762-435a-b501-2ae3eeb89e50/UnqualifiedDentistsThis doesn’t appear to be just a new problem… |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 13:41:45 GMT
Urn, you made the accusation. You prove it . Afaik his company hasn’t moved company assets to Monaco. He hadn’t moved the company headquarters to Monaco. He hasn’t put £17.5 billion in a suitcase and flown out to Monaco ….so. He's moved to Monaco to live . Have you ever been to Monaco ? He doesn’t have to ship £17.5 billion to Monaco — The Guardian reported at the time: Ratcliffe, a petrochemicals magnate with an estimated £17.5bn fortune, has this week officially changed his tax domicile from Hampshire to Monaco, the sovereign city-state that is already home to many of the UK’s richest people. It has been estimated that the move will save him £4bn in tax payments. People who live in Monaco for at least 183 days a year do not pay any income or property taxes. The highest tax rate in the UK is 45% on income above £150,000-a-year. www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicileWhy would a visit to Monaco enlighten any side of this debate — is the dentistry free…? Show me how he will save £4billion in tax ? The total assets of INEOS are £17 billion and he doesn’t own it all . Looks like you are relying on the leftie version of the Mail to make false claims . Also Monaco isn’t part of the EU so you will be condemning the remainers who move there ? |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 13:43:46 GMT
Me..How much DID he shift? You..4 bn pounds So you made a rather stupid false claim and are now moving the goal posts to a prediction. lol. What false claim and what goal post have I moved You claimed that he moved £4 billion then changed it to ‘ will follow him’. Try to keep up . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 18, 2024 13:51:16 GMT
Me..How much DID he shift? You..4 bn pounds So you made a rather stupid false claim and are now moving the goal posts to a prediction. lol. What false claim and what goal post have I moved Where did you pluck the figure of '4 bn pounds' show us your proof of such a wild allegation, or just admit you lied and made that figure up, in fact you made the whole story up. |
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Post by patman post on Feb 18, 2024 13:55:45 GMT
As of May 2023, the Sunday Times Rich List 2023 estimated his net worth at £29.688 billion, making him the second wealthiest figure in the UK. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098I have no access to Sir Jim’s tax returns, but as it’s been publicly stated several times in business news media — without contradiction — that moving to Monaco would save him an estimated £4 billion a year in tax, I’ll accept it could be more. Or it maybe because he’s after better dental treatment — though Hungary seems to be a better bet for that as many wealthy Germans have their dental work done there… |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 14:06:30 GMT
As of May 2023, the Sunday Times Rich List 2023 estimated his net worth at £29.688 billion, making him the second wealthiest figure in the UK. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098I have no access to Sir Jim’s tax returns, but as it’s been publicly stated several times in business news media — without contradiction — that moving to Monaco would save him an estimated £4 billion a year in tax, I’ll accept it could be more. Or it maybe because he’s after better dental treatment — though Hungary seems to be a better bet for that as many wealthy Germans have their dental work done there… Paywall so can’t check but according to the Guardian he’s worth £17.5 billion so maybe he lost the suitcase of£12 billion on the plane to Monaco . Edit ..I’ve noticed that your Guardian link is dated 2020. However afaik assets are not taxed. Also Monaco isn’t in the EU so if your whine about him then it’s only fair to whine about remainers who move to Monaco. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 14:15:03 GMT
He doesn’t have to ship £17.5 billion to Monaco — The Guardian reported at the time: Ratcliffe, a petrochemicals magnate with an estimated £17.5bn fortune, has this week officially changed his tax domicile from Hampshire to Monaco, the sovereign city-state that is already home to many of the UK’s richest people. It has been estimated that the move will save him £4bn in tax payments. People who live in Monaco for at least 183 days a year do not pay any income or property taxes. The highest tax rate in the UK is 45% on income above £150,000-a-year. www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicileWhy would a visit to Monaco enlighten any side of this debate — is the dentistry free…? Show me how he will save £4billion in tax ? The total assets of INEOS are £17 billion and he doesn’t own it all . Looks like you are relying on the leftie version of the Mail to make false claims . Also Monaco isn’t part of the EU so you will be condemning the remainers who move there ? do you think he only has interest in one Company work out is income in all his business including man u then we can work. Out how much he's robbing the tax payer Until to.then we keep to the 4bn |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 14:21:07 GMT
Show me how he will save £4billion in tax ? The total assets of INEOS are £17 billion and he doesn’t own it all . Looks like you are relying on the leftie version of the Mail to make false claims . Also Monaco isn’t part of the EU so you will be condemning the remainers who move there ? do you think he only has interest in one Company work out is income in all his business including man u then we can work. Out how much he's robbing the tax payer Until to.then we keep to the 4bn What other interests does he have ? what is his taxable income? Do you condemn remainers who do the same ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 14:21:12 GMT
As of May 2023, the Sunday Times Rich List 2023 estimated his net worth at £29.688 billion, making him the second wealthiest figure in the UK. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098I have no access to Sir Jim’s tax returns, but as it’s been publicly stated several times in business news media — without contradiction — that moving to Monaco would save him an estimated £4 billion a year in tax, I’ll accept it could be more. Or it maybe because he’s after better dental treatment — though Hungary seems to be a better bet for that as many wealthy Germans have their dental work done there… Paywall so can’t check but according to the Guardian he’s worth £17.5 billion so maybe he lost the suitcase of£12 billion on the plane to Monaco . Edit ..I’ve noticed that your Guardian link is dated 2020. However afaik assets are not taxed. Also Monaco isn’t in the EU so if your whine about him then it’s only fair to whine about remainers who move to Monaco. No pay wall for me but it's here Rich List 2023 top 10 SEE FULL LIST Rank Name Worth 1 Gopi Hinduja and family £35bn 2 Sir Jim Ratcliffe £29.688bn 3 Sir Leonard Blavatnik £28.625bn 4 David and Simon Reuben and family £24.399bn 5 Sir James Dyson and family £23bn 6 Lakshmi Mittal and family £16bn 7 Guy, George, Alannah and Galen Weston and family £14.5bn 8 Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken and Michel de Carvalho £13.122bn 9 Kirsten and Jorn Rausing £12bn 10 Michael Platt £11.5bn How the Rich List 2023 was compiled |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 14:22:54 GMT
Paywall so can’t check but according to the Guardian he’s worth £17.5 billion so maybe he lost the suitcase of£12 billion on the plane to Monaco . Edit ..I’ve noticed that your Guardian link is dated 2020. However afaik assets are not taxed. Also Monaco isn’t in the EU so if your whine about him then it’s only fair to whine about remainers who move to Monaco. No pay wall for me but it's here Rich List 2023 top 10 SEE FULL LIST Rank Name Worth 1 Gopi Hinduja and family £35bn 2 Sir Jim Ratcliffe £29.688bn 3 Sir Leonard Blavatnik £28.625bn 4 David and Simon Reuben and family £24.399bn 5 Sir James Dyson and family £23bn 6 Lakshmi Mittal and family £16bn 7 Guy, George, Alannah and Galen Weston and family £14.5bn 8 Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken and Michel de Carvalho £13.122bn 9 Kirsten and Jorn Rausing £12bn 10 Michael Platt £11.5bn How the Rich List 2023 was compiled So what is his income ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 14:28:48 GMT
do you think he only has interest in one Company work out is income in all his business including man u then we can work. Out how much he's robbing the tax payer Until to.then we keep to the 4bn What other interests does he have ? what is his taxable income? Do you condemn remainers who do the same ? Just mentioned on Manchester United he owes some other sports clubs he has a large portfolio. Point out any remainers who done the same them.I Condemn them after.you condemned Radcliffe but don't hold out for much. Hope he's got taxable income on 20bn+ don't you . |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 14:31:57 GMT
What other interests does he have ? what is his taxable income? Do you condemn remainers who do the same ? Just mentioned on Manchester United he owes some other sports clubs he has a large portfolio. Point out any remainers who done the same them.I Condemn them after.you condemned Radcliffe but don't hold out for much. Hope he's got taxable income on 20bn+ don't you . So you condemn remainers who do the same . So why point out a leaver ? I don’t know what his income is and neither do you . So you have no idea how much tax he will save , do you ? |
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