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Post by Pacifico on Feb 6, 2024 7:26:09 GMT
it has been explained numerous times on this forum alone why you cannot compare covid deaths with other countries. What's not even Country's Like Germany France etc And it's not my Comparison it's the figures used at the vCovid inquiry Used by the WHO. Think.you better have a word with them. About Comparison with other Countries. OK - I'll try once more. If you have Country 'A' counting deaths from Covid using one criteria and Country 'B' counting deaths from Covid using another, completely different criteria - can you compare the two?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 8:16:09 GMT
What's not even Country's Like Germany France etc And it's not my Comparison it's the figures used at the vCovid inquiry Used by the WHO. Think.you better have a word with them. About Comparison with other Countries. OK - I'll try once more. If you have Country 'A' counting deaths from Covid using one criteria and Country 'B' counting deaths from Covid using another, completely different criteria - can you compare the two? I've heard that cope.out before Maybe you can explain how the UK counts the Deaths of Covid different to Germany or France
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Post by thomas on Feb 6, 2024 8:16:18 GMT
So you are asking people to blindly trust starmer and vote a man into power who has broken every election pledge he ever made , and u turned on every policy he has ever announced , while implying this is what other political parties do like the snp but can't give us an example ? Why vote labour when they are no different to the tories? If people are tories , why would they vote labour , a cheap imitation , when they could vote the real thing? What on earth you on about labour are no different then the Torys. I've answed you on this before there plenty of so called Alternativel who people can vote for but the voting public won't toUch them with.a barge poll. And what promises has Keir broken.to.get elected heard this plenty of times but not provided any prove. Let's not forget. You said he broken every one can you proved this pacifico , myself and others on this forum have repeatedly shown the list of pledges he has broken. did you vote for labour under Jeremy Corby's leadership?
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Post by thomas on Feb 6, 2024 8:17:01 GMT
archive.is/8WNcwKeir Starmer’s Labour ‘set to ditch plans to abolish House of Lords’LABOUR have been slammed for dumping another key promise to voters after reports suggested the party is set to row back on plans to abolish the House of Lords.In December last year, Keir Starmer insisted that the unelected chamber was “indefensible” and his party would replace it with an Assembly of the Nations and Regions.The plans were first published in a report on the UK’s constitutional future, penned by former prime minister Gordon Brown. ....and here is the Labour Party poster from 1910 , where they were promising to abolish the House of Lords 114 years ago.... which they have done in practically every election since .... archive.is/elA8i#selection-3117.15-3117.77 That's one not them all like you Stated Can you please provide the. All like you.said. Urm from. 1910 so every labour Government since then has broken that promise. aye. They have broken that promise. Labour simply cannot be trusted.
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Post by thomas on Feb 6, 2024 8:25:45 GMT
Whats about the labour infighting over the Palestinian conflict , the potential loss of the muslim vote , the Brexit elephant that still sits in the room , not to mention Scottish indy ? Starmer labour supporters do make me fucking laugh. The same people telling us to vote keir starmer to get the tories out , where the ones telling us not to vote Corbyn to get the tories out , while stabbing him in the back. The polls showed labour ahead consistently in the run up to the 2015 general election , with a narrowing as the election approached , and at the end , as we know a conservative victory. Lack of accurate sampling and over representation of labour supporters being blamed. Here's hoping this time around is much the same... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#:~:text=However%20the%20actual%20results%20showed,than%20the%20polls%20had%20suggested. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35931342Sir Keir like most Government has made Comdinatio of the actions of the Islalie Government .isreal haa right to defend it's self .against the threat of Hamas. Do you think that's wrong . Has for the Eu Corbyn tossed and turned where he lay on that .think it took him so long he didn't make his decision until.about 2 weeks before the referendum. He obviously lacked clear direction . do I think keir starmer is wrong? Well , just like the red wall brexiters and starers Brexit stance in 2019, keir is clearly at odds with much of his voting base , and my point is to show yet again how labour never listen , with their we know best attitude irrespective of that their voters support. So clearly , yes he is wrong , and potentially losing millions of muslim and left wing voters on the issue could cost him the next election. Such is the tactical stupidity of labour though , as we point out time and again. Which is why they tend to lose general elections constantly. Whatever the discussion at hand , labour are always swimming against the tide of public opinion it seems....
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 8:35:00 GMT
This is what I said why we had the highest death rate I'n western Europe. Why twist what i said when. It's right In front of you . And every one can see how devious you can be. Inquiry into. Covid deaths confirmed Covid-19 deaths per million in the UK were higher than the EU average of 2,401.4, and higher than every western and southern European member state, including Greece (2,762,2) and Italy (2,751.9). Well, we’ve got more blacks and asians than they do, and they die easier, as David Lammy and Diane Flabbott insist. Have you weighted those figures by population ethnicity You should. Yes you have a point the Black.and Asian communitis do have a higher rate of deaths due to Covid. But if you think. That effeted the death rate more than it did in more Ethnic divers France think you have to rethink . But I checked What area in England had the highest deaths due to Covid. The top region was the south East Followed by London and seeing London has a much higher population then.the South East so that seems to knock your theory. On the head . Also. Maybe you can tell me how deaths rate of the Black and Asian community effected Scotland. Wales. And Northern Ireland. I.admit your right . But has always your talking out of your hat .
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 6, 2024 8:36:52 GMT
OK - I'll try once more. If you have Country 'A' counting deaths from Covid using one criteria and Country 'B' counting deaths from Covid using another, completely different criteria - can you compare the two? I've heard that cope.out before Maybe you can explain how the UK counts the Deaths of Covid different to Germany or France Try reading this. The challenge of counting COVID-19 deaths
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 8:45:03 GMT
Sir Keir like most Government has made Comdinatio of the actions of the Islalie Government .isreal haa right to defend it's self .against the threat of Hamas. Do you think that's wrong . Has for the Eu Corbyn tossed and turned where he lay on that .think it took him so long he didn't make his decision until.about 2 weeks before the referendum. He obviously lacked clear direction . do I think keir starmer is wrong? Well , just like the red wall brexiters and starers Brexit stance in 2019, keir is clearly at odds with much of his voting base , and my point is to show yet again how labour never listen , with their we know best attitude irrespective of that their voters support. So clearly , yes he is wrong , and potentially losing millions of muslim and left wing voters on the issue could cost him the next election. Such is the tactical stupidity of labour though , as we point out time and again. Which is why they tend to lose general elections constantly. Whatever the discussion at hand , labour are always swimming against the tide of public opinion it seems.... Well unfortunately the red wall like the rest of England and Wales lacked. Hindsight. Seeing the mess the country in now even Chief Brexiter Farage said Brexit had failed so seems Sir Keir was right. So stick that in your pipe and Smoke it And I show you some interesting figures about the 2019.election. what shows what you say I's wrong
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Post by sheepy on Feb 6, 2024 8:47:29 GMT
do I think keir starmer is wrong? Well , just like the red wall brexiters and starers Brexit stance in 2019, keir is clearly at odds with much of his voting base , and my point is to show yet again how labour never listen , with their we know best attitude irrespective of that their voters support. So clearly , yes he is wrong , and potentially losing millions of muslim and left wing voters on the issue could cost him the next election. Such is the tactical stupidity of labour though , as we point out time and again. Which is why they tend to lose general elections constantly. Whatever the discussion at hand , labour are always swimming against the tide of public opinion it seems.... Well unfortunately the red wall like the rest of England and Wales lacked. Hindsight. Seeing the mess the country in now even Chief Brexiter Farage said Brexit had failed so seems Sir Keir was right. So stick that in your pipe and Smoke it And I show you some interesting figures about the 2019.election. what shows what you say I's wrong That somehow makes him fit for purpose, probably not in the majority of the electorates eye though.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 8:56:13 GMT
Did you see how high France deaths Count Was much higher than England and waless And that's just in Hospital. And Care homes. Not included them that died at home.
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Post by thomas on Feb 6, 2024 8:59:00 GMT
do I think keir starmer is wrong? Well , just like the red wall brexiters and starers Brexit stance in 2019, keir is clearly at odds with much of his voting base , and my point is to show yet again how labour never listen , with their we know best attitude irrespective of that their voters support. So clearly , yes he is wrong , and potentially losing millions of muslim and left wing voters on the issue could cost him the next election. Such is the tactical stupidity of labour though , as we point out time and again. Which is why they tend to lose general elections constantly. Whatever the discussion at hand , labour are always swimming against the tide of public opinion it seems.... Well unfortunately the red wall like the rest of England and Wales lacked. Hindsight. Seeing the mess the country in now even Chief Brexiter Farage said Brexit had failed so seems Sir Keir was right. So stick that in your pipe and Smoke it And I show you some interesting figures about the 2019.election. what shows what you say I's wrong Ah! so you imply the stupid red wall brexiters didnt know what they were doing , and should have listened to keir starmer in 2019 and voted for his disastrous Brexit policy? LMFAO. You never learn.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 9:00:05 GMT
Well unfortunately the red wall like the rest of England and Wales lacked. Hindsight. Seeing the mess the country in now even Chief Brexiter Farage said Brexit had failed so seems Sir Keir was right. So stick that in your pipe and Smoke it And I show you some interesting figures about the 2019.election. what shows what you say I's wrong That somehow makes him fit for purpose, probably not in the majority of the electorates eye though. Well seeing Thomas thinks labour lost the red wall due to Sir Keir stance that what I was referring to. And has far has the General public concerned we see when labour gets in Government
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 9:03:03 GMT
Well unfortunately the red wall like the rest of England and Wales lacked. Hindsight. Seeing the mess the country in now even Chief Brexiter Farage said Brexit had failed so seems Sir Keir was right. So stick that in your pipe and Smoke it And I show you some interesting figures about the 2019.election. what shows what you say I's wrong Ah! so you imply the stupid red wall brexiters didnt know what they were doing , and should have listened to keir starmer in 2019 and voted for his disastrous Brexit policy? LMFAO. You never learn. We see when the red wall return to labour in the next GE. That i proven you.wrong again
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Post by sheepy on Feb 6, 2024 10:06:08 GMT
That somehow makes him fit for purpose, probably not in the majority of the electorates eye though. Well seeing Thomas thinks labour lost the red wall due to Sir Keir stance that what I was referring to. And has far has the General public concerned we see when labour gets in Government Can't wait as he will win this so called landslide without a majority of the electorate voting for him,he will have more then a little trouble explaining who he represents.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 7, 2024 16:53:51 GMT
Well seeing Thomas thinks labour lost the red wall due to Sir Keir stance that what I was referring to. And has far has the General public concerned we see when labour gets in Government Can't wait as he will win this so called landslide without a majority of the electorate voting for him,he will have more then a little trouble explaining who he represents. What does that matter if that's the case They should turn out and vote for Who.they see Credible And supports. There views they Can't winge when things Don't go there way. There to lazy to get of there lazy bum And vote
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