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Post by jonksy on Jan 31, 2024 9:25:01 GMT
Does anyone beleive a word that this excuse for a woman utters?
Angela Rayner accused of 'outrageous smear' with claim Tories want to evict crying babies...
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Post by om15 on Jan 31, 2024 10:01:10 GMT
This drab foul mouthed uneducated marxist will form part of the next Government. I really hope the 42% or whatever todays figure is really do know what they are doing.
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 31, 2024 10:01:23 GMT
No ,I have a default position with MP's in general that they are not to be believed . I can of course be convinced otherwise but this one just confirms I am right every time she opens her gob .
Probably the Conservatives biggest asset behind Starmer
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 31, 2024 11:13:42 GMT
The problem with this form of low class journalism, and the subsequent comments on here, is that it is about the personalities, rather than the substance.
I don't think anyone would object to legislation to punish antisocial behaviour, but it must also protect the vulnerable too. Rather than screaming words, it would be much more sensible to understand what the consultation from the experts that was referenced in the article actually did state. Then we'd be able to have a sensible discussion about what we wanted as an outcome.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 31, 2024 12:05:20 GMT
A Labour Party spokesman said: "This is utter delusion. There are plenty of examples of families being evicted because their baby was crying."
I'm unable to find a single example of anyone being evicted from Social Housing due to a crying baby - hopefully the Labour Party will provide some of these examples.
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Post by witchfinder on Jan 31, 2024 12:29:37 GMT
The real problems of Social Housing are not whether you can, could, or would evict anyone due to a baby crying, but the lack of social housing, and the utter failure of any government to deal with the problem.
The last Labour government did little to solve the real problem, which is a shortage of afforable homes to rent.
The Conservatives simply wont entertain any idea which either involves local authority house building, or which does not involve the private sector, their policies are ideology based, instead of been practicle.
I am waiting to hear more substance from the Labour Party, which could come in their manifesto, but we already know that this government have done very little.
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 31, 2024 13:56:29 GMT
A Labour Party spokesman said: "This is utter delusion. There are plenty of examples of families being evicted because their baby was crying."I'm unable to find a single example of anyone being evicted from Social Housing due to a crying baby - hopefully the Labour Party will provide some of these examples. Im confident there are not any examples to be had . You can't get people evicted from social housing for serious anti social behaviour without months if not years of deliberation from the council followed by court action . It's a lot easier to just move yourself if some twat moves next door with three dogs and a sound system that's more fit for the O'2 than a two bed terraced . A crying baby ? No chance . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 31, 2024 14:58:10 GMT
There was discussions on the locked thread about who should be entitled to social housing. I got an email this morning about government proposals to make changes to housing allocations. I won't have a chance to look at it until next week, but I'll report back if there is anything of interest.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 31, 2024 15:23:31 GMT
Private renting yes, Social housing no.
Rayner should be made to put up or shut up and apologise.
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Post by witchfinder on Jan 31, 2024 15:40:45 GMT
Private renting yes, Social housing no. Rayner should be made to put up or shut up and apologise. Council housing was the salvation of generations of hard working people who could not afford a mortgage, if it worked then, it can work again, now, and in the future. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 31, 2024 15:43:39 GMT
Private renting yes, Social housing no. Rayner should be made to put up or shut up and apologise. Council housing was the salvation of generations of hard working people who could not afford a mortgage, if it worked then, it can work again, now, and in the future. Indeed. Imo council houses should have never have sold off. The problem now is the cost and potentially negative social issues . |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 31, 2024 16:15:47 GMT
Private renting yes, Social housing no. Rayner should be made to put up or shut up and apologise. Council housing was the salvation of generations of hard working people who could not afford a mortgage, if it worked then, it can work again, now, and in the future. More to the point perhaps, development corporation funded housebuilding on a grand scale not by council DLO but by private commercial building firms tendering for the work, and subsequent handiver of that housing stock to the local authority, was how KEY WORKER housing, emphasis very much on WORKER was how the new towns i personally know of attracted a workforce to the industry and business the town was created to house the people for. The nearest equivalent here now is the mass concretion if tens of acres of woodland and canal bank environment to house tbe thousands expected to be enticed from quarter to half million pound housing in bristol. It should perhaps be said a quarter to half a million gets you a band E / F mansion here. In Bristol you’ll be lucky to get a two bed terrace. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 31, 2024 17:58:57 GMT
The real problems of Social Housing are not whether you can, could, or would evict anyone due to a baby crying, but the lack of social housing, and the utter failure of any government to deal with the problem. The last Labour government did little to solve the real problem, which is a shortage of afforable homes to rent. The Conservatives simply wont entertain any idea which either involves local authority house building, or which does not involve the private sector, their policies are ideology based, instead of been practicle. I am waiting to hear more substance from the Labour Party, which could come in their manifesto, but we already know that this government have done very little. Given the rate of immigration it is impossible to make a dent in the shortage of housing, social or otherwise. We simply do not have the resources. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 31, 2024 18:44:46 GMT
Almost doubled in just over 10 years - what will the next 10 years hold?  |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 31, 2024 19:18:30 GMT
It is a criminal offence, punishable by up to three years imprisonment, for a private landlord to evict a tenant who is unwilling to leave, without first having obtained a possession order from a judge. However ... it is said that some 50,000 people a year get evicted illegally ... because the police usually claim it is a "civil matter" when tenants call them when an illegal eviction is ongoing. The police will only attend if there is a "threat of violence" ... and to allow the tenant to retrieve possessions that may be locked in the house.
Even when landlords have obtained possession orders they cannot evict tenants who are refusing to leave ... they have to call in the bailiffs.
Council rules are that if a tenant leaves without having found somewhere else to live, without having compelled the landlord to gain a possession order and call in the bailiffs, then the tenant is classified as having made themselves voluntarily homeless.
I live in HMO (House of Multiple Occupancy) which has communal areas. My landlord rang me and said that he had found breadcrumbs by the kitchen toaster and that if we didn't keep the place clean he would close the house down. I could have reported him to the police ... the communal areas are his responsibility. His threat to evict in this context is a criminal offence.
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