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Post by walterpaisley on Jan 27, 2024 15:23:28 GMT
His writings on Macbeth was among the biggest pieces of historical bullshit written in the English language. Shakespeare was a jobbing writer who knew where the money came from. Given that there was a king on the throne with two obsessions - promoting the legitimacy of his reign and witchcraft (he wasn't keen) - what better way to guarantee a big payday than adapt the notably inaccurate Ralph Holinshead (his source for many of the Histories), and knock out a snappy yarn about how a usurper to the Scottish throne was only put there by witchcraft.. We writers are a couple of steps below street prostitutes, y'know.. (The real Macbethad was on the throne for some time, and had a rather dull reign, truth be told. A few murders, weird sisters, ghosts, sleepwalking wives and armies disguised as Burnham Wood might have livened things up no end.) |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 27, 2024 15:23:40 GMT
Nothing is as it seems. The Hawaiian pizza was actually invented in Canada by a Greek chef. monte , that's a contradiction . You dont invent pizza by adding an ingredient centuries after the Italians first invented the original idea. next you will be telling me the curry is English because a Brummie decided to dish up a vindaloo. I didn't say pizza was invented in Canada, I said Hawaiian pizza was, by a Greek. Vindaloo is a dish from Goa based on a Portuguese dish. Vin referring to the use of either wine or vinegar. Curry is an English word with no Indian equivalent. There is no concept of ''a curry'' in India. They name their spicy dishes by region. The nearest word to curry is kari meaning sauce or gravy. So curries are indeed British dishes based on Indian spices but made with more sauce than traditional Indian dishes. Chicken tikka masala, Balti, chutney and kedgeree are all examples of British foods inspired by dishes from the sub-continent. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 15:33:23 GMT
His writings on Macbeth was among the biggest pieces of historical bullshit written in the English language. Shakespeare was a jobbing writer who knew where the money came from. Given that there was a king on the throne with two obsessions - promoting the legitimacy of his reign and witchcraft (he wasn't keen) - what better way to guarantee a big payday than adapt the notably inaccurate Ralph Holinshead (his source for many of the Histories), and knock out a snappy yarn about how a usurper to the Scottish throne was only put there by witchcraft.. We writers are a couple of steps below street prostitutes, y'know.. (The real Macbethad was on the throne for some time, and had a rather dull reign, truth be told. A few murders, weird sisters, ghosts, sleepwalking wives and armies disguised as Burnham Wood might have livened things up no end.) Mac Beth and other Scottish kings weren't usurpers. Shakespeare simply didint understand how the tanist system of electing Scottish kings worked. Completely different from the later Norman French installed primogeniture. Mac Beth was arguably one of scotland greatest monarchs , who reigned over such a wealthy and peaceful kingdom (unlike the situation in England at the time ) that he was able to make a pilgrimage to Rome. Jamie the saxth was a c ant . The Stewarts were universally disliked in scotland , a number were murdered , one had the crown taken off him , and their dynasty presided over the fall of scotland , ultimately leading to the unpopular union. I suppose as you say writing shite about a Celtic king of scotland to a dynasty responsible for anglicisation of our country , and unpopular policies like the statutes of Iona , would have appealed to a venal man like Jamie Stewart. so I see your point. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 15:39:46 GMT
monte , that's a contradiction . You dont invent pizza by adding an ingredient centuries after the Italians first invented the original idea. next you will be telling me the curry is English because a Brummie decided to dish up a vindaloo. I didn't say pizza was invented in Canada, I said Hawaiian pizza was, by a Greek. Vindaloo is a dish from Goa based on a Portuguese dish. Vin referring to the use of either wine or vinegar. Curry is an English word with no Indian equivalent. There is no concept of ''a curry'' in India. They name their spicy dishes by region. The nearest word to curry is kari meaning sauce or gravy. So curries are indeed British dishes based on Indian spices but made with more sauce than traditional Indian dishes. Chicken tikka masala, Balti, chutney and kedgeree are all examples of British foods inspired by dishes from the sub-continent. same thing. The pizza is Italian. you can't reinvent the wheel simply by adding another spoke. There is also many words , in many languages with no direct concept of translation into English. That doesn't make spicy food used for centuries in the sub continent British , because you use an English word to describe something already there. How can it be British , when there is no British language ? If curry is an English word , then it logically follows according to your argument the curry is English.( its not , but lets humour you) Language is one of the biggest cultural markers you can have , and the British dont have one............because the British aren't a real thing , they are simply an invention of someone's imagination................... |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 15:54:36 GMT
Nothing is as it seems. The Hawaiian pizza was actually invented in Canada by a Greek chef. Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 27, 2024 16:01:00 GMT
Nothing is as it seems. The Hawaiian pizza was actually invented in Canada by a Greek chef. Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza. Pineapple on pizza is a hugely controversial topic. I agree with you, cheese and pineapple is a winning combination.  |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 16:12:32 GMT
Nothing is as it seems. The Hawaiian pizza was actually invented in Canada by a Greek chef. Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza. hope this offends someone , you are going back into Europe fellow eu citizen. Say sorry sassuanch , and we can forget all this separatist nonsense and move on. Anyone for an eu armed forces Vinny? ![]() |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 16:13:28 GMT
Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza. Pineapple on pizza is a hugely controversial topic. I agree with you, cheese and pineapple is a winning combination. ah but is it a Bwitish pineapple ? The big question on everyones lips ? |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 16:18:43 GMT
Nothing is as it seems. The Hawaiian pizza was actually invented in Canada by a Greek chef. Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza.  |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 27, 2024 16:23:25 GMT
Hope this offends someone, but I love a Hawaiian pizza. That's not the Hawaiian state flag! This is...  |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 27, 2024 16:27:58 GMT
Pineapple on pizza is a hugely controversial topic. I agree with you, cheese and pineapple is a winning combination. ah but is it a Bwitish pineapple ? The big question on everyones lips ? Cheese and pineapple hedgehogs are definitely British. Makes you proud, sniff.  |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 16:28:00 GMT
That's not the Hawaiian state flag! This is... I assume it was part of the empire with the butchers apron in the top corner? What happened monte? Did the yanks take it off you , or did they leave after getting fed up with London rule as well? anyhow can't you let me have my fun with Vincent? I dont think much of Vinny. If he is such a pussy he can't even debate people on this forum , and hides behind ignore , I can't see him making the uk citizen army when the Russian invade. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 16:29:02 GMT
ah but is it a Bwitish pineapple ? The big question on everyones lips ? Cheese and pineapple hedgehogs are definitely British. Makes you proud, sniff. I feel like going out. shouting hooray Henry and colonising the glennifer braes on behalf of the crown. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 16:33:07 GMT
Cheese and pineapple hedgehogs are definitely British. Makes you proud, sniff. I feel like going out. shouting hooray Henry and colonising the glennifer braes on behalf of the crown. Best ask nursie, first. Take care with Tucker's Nob. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 17:01:57 GMT
ah but is it a Bwitish pineapple ? The big question on everyones lips ? Cheese and pineapple hedgehogs are definitely British. Makes you proud, sniff. what I want clarified are the rules of cultural appropriation for supra national entities going forward monte. If port (completely ignoring our friends in Portugal) is bwitish , because engerlund is a region of bwitain , will that make morris dancing European when sir keir takes the yookay back into the EU and we become the north west region? Asking for Vinny? |
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