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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2024 11:24:37 GMT
HAARP is a study of the northern ionosphere. It has nothing to do with climate change. Climate change is being caused by CO2 and methane gas emissions. And also legacy CFC emissions. Answer? Trees, high energy crops and technological changes like renewable fuels for conventional cars. Create a closed cycle in which the hydrocarbon is made using recycled CO2. Such tech already exists but requires a lot of electricity to power the process. With enough renewable energy, or nuclear power, it's a viable process. And renewable hydrocarbon fuels cheaper than fossil fuels and purer, offering better MPG, would be possible. Once again. HAARP is not sinister. Meanwhile Climate Change is real despite the Russian mafia oil lobby and its propaganda. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 27, 2024 8:25:57 GMT
No one has ever doubted climate change. But it's usually determined looking backwards over hundreds/thousands of years. Many examples of modern "climate change" just turn out to be blips that are smoothed out over a few decades - like the early twentieth century warming and various other blips which were initially judged to be signs of climate change (either warming or cooling).
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 10, 2024 8:09:14 GMT
Who decided that temperatures from the early 20th Century were the optimum temperatures for humanity that we should attempt to maintain in perpetuity?.
For example given the amount of people that die from cold and hunger every year, a more comfortable climate and longer growing season could have massive benefits.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 10, 2024 13:00:15 GMT
Who decided that temperatures from the early 20th Century were the optimum temperatures for humanity that we should attempt to maintain in perpetuity?. For example given the amount of people that die from cold and hunger every year, a more comfortable climate and longer growing season could have massive benefits. The people who built all our infrastructure. The people who designed our agriculture, crops, drainage, etc. If you'd like to change it all can you let me know where to send the bill. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 10, 2024 18:03:53 GMT
Who decided that temperatures from the early 20th Century were the optimum temperatures for humanity that we should attempt to maintain in perpetuity?. For example given the amount of people that die from cold and hunger every year, a more comfortable climate and longer growing season could have massive benefits. The people who built all our infrastructure. The people who designed our agriculture, crops, drainage, etc. If you'd like to change it all can you let me know where to send the bill. Well vastly more people in the UK die from the cold than from heat - if it warmed up a bit we could save thousands of lives a year. Wouldn't cost a thing. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 10, 2024 19:09:38 GMT
The people who built all our infrastructure. The people who designed our agriculture, crops, drainage, etc. If you'd like to change it all can you let me know where to send the bill. Well vastly more people in the UK die from the cold than from heat - if it warmed up a bit we could save thousands of lives a year. Wouldn't cost a thing. Same stupid arguments again and again. Its not about a few people dying of heat or cold. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 10, 2024 22:40:40 GMT
Well vastly more people in the UK die from the cold than from heat - if it warmed up a bit we could save thousands of lives a year. Wouldn't cost a thing. Same stupid arguments again and again. Its not about a few people dying of heat or cold. No, you are totally correct. The dash to Net Zero is absolutely nothing to do with life and death. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 10, 2024 23:50:41 GMT
Same stupid arguments again and again. Its not about a few people dying of heat or cold. No, you are totally correct. The dash to Net Zero is absolutely nothing to do with life and death. Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 11, 2024 0:36:21 GMT
No, you are totally correct. The dash to Net Zero is absolutely nothing to do with life and death. Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing.States someone who fell for the doom goblins predictions hook line and sinker.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 11, 2024 7:32:27 GMT
No, you are totally correct. The dash to Net Zero is absolutely nothing to do with life and death. Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing. What cost is there in doing nothing.. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 11, 2024 8:26:53 GMT
Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing. What cost is there in doing nothing.. Who can possibly say, its forever ongoing. It will get worse every year, but who can say how much higher we would need to build flood defences and in which new towns, how much more food will cost as it becomes rarer, how many buildings, drainage systems will need replacing. Not knowing the cost of doing nothing does not mean nothing should be done. Tell me. What's the cost of not repairing our roads? Should we not bother until we answer that question? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 11, 2024 8:41:16 GMT
No, you are totally correct. The dash to Net Zero is absolutely nothing to do with life and death. Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing. So, what if you don't stop climate change, by doing everything so far that has been a rank failure? me might start thinking there are forces going on that you have absolutely no control over. Oh no it couldn't possibly any such thing, we can control the weather. Which true to a degree as people do control the weather and create rain, but without knowing the knock-on effects. Trying to change an eco-system can also lend to other problems sherlock. Me thinks down here at the bottom we have a lot of people rushing around trying to save a planet through politics that they actually don't have a clue what they are doing and being led by a bunch of politicians who don't have a clue either but being led by a bunch of dodgy scientists. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 11, 2024 9:20:39 GMT
Indeed. Its about the cost of stopping climate change versus the cost of doing nothing. So, what if you don't stop climate change, by doing everything so far that has been a rank failure? me might start thinking there are forces going on that you have absolutely no control over. Oh no it couldn't possibly any such thing, we can control the weather. Which true to a degree as people do control the weather and create rain, but without knowing the knock-on effects. Trying to change an eco-system can also lend to other problems sherlock. Me thinks down here at the bottom we have a lot of people rushing around trying to save a planet through politics that they actually don't have a clue what they are doing and being led by a bunch of politicians who don't have a clue either but being led by a bunch of dodgy scientists. Blah blah blah. Same old rehash. As I say, I'm not willing to replay the same record over and over. If you think AGW does not exist you are so uneducated I cannot converse with you. |
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Post by borchester on Feb 11, 2024 9:25:10 GMT
The people who built all our infrastructure. The people who designed our agriculture, crops, drainage, etc. If you'd like to change it all can you let me know where to send the bill. Well vastly more people in the UK die from the cold than from heat - if it warmed up a bit we could save thousands of lives a year. Wouldn't cost a thing. You mean a longer growing season which means more food which will bind the mouth of famine ?
That is so crazy it might just work, although I suppose Greta Glumberg and co will have to find something else to worry on.
Anyway, I am off to plant my potatoes. It will be a month early, but if I succeed I will have increased my food supply by about 10%. And if I fail, think how happy that will make the environmentalists !
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Post by zanygame on Feb 11, 2024 13:11:08 GMT
Well vastly more people in the UK die from the cold than from heat - if it warmed up a bit we could save thousands of lives a year. Wouldn't cost a thing. You mean a longer growing season which means more food which will bind the mouth of famine ?
That is so crazy it might just work, although I suppose Greta Glumberg and co will have to find something else to worry on.
Anyway, I am off to plant my potatoes. It will be a month early, but if I succeed I will have increased my food supply by about 10%. And if I fail, think how happy that will make the environmentalists !
Farmers disagree with you. www.emergingrisks.co.uk/agricultural-fears-amid-warning-of-future-water-shortage/Another cost of doing nothing, More reservoirs to adjust to changing rainfall patterns in the UK. Of course the stupid deniers will only point to overall rainfall. Not when, where and how it falls. But a hint for you, the UK natural and man made water courses are not designed for monsoons. |
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