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Post by sheepy on Jan 24, 2024 22:50:09 GMT
I am the real deal Monte, we ate our food from the garden what we could afford came in brown paper bags and was mostly local produce. Nothing was wasted and any peel or leftovers went on the compost heap. I was looking after the local environment before you even knew it existed. No mad scientists required. I've had a meat free diet for 40 years. I've not lived in a house for over 35 years. I've been using a composting toilet for the last 10 years. I don't just talk the talk. Let's face you middle class types always think you are wiser than us poor downtrodden working clarse types. We were brought up to respect the local environment, always something growing in the garden or out in the local fields and hedgerows. That was a wisdom passed down over generations.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 24, 2024 22:57:44 GMT
I don't want to - if you want a salad then go ahead but don't tell others what they should eat. If it wasn't causing a 'common harm' I wouldn't dream of it. I gave up smoking in public for the 'common good' even though it did great damage to the pub industry I work in.
It was not the common good - the Government has already lost a Billion pounds in tax as people stop smoking and its only forecast to get even worse with a resulting black hole in the Budget. Gen Z are stopping smoking, drinking and driving - the loss of taxation is going to cripple the economy.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2024 6:10:24 GMT
If it wasn't causing a 'common harm' I wouldn't dream of it. I gave up smoking in public for the 'common good' even though it did great damage to the pub industry I work in.
It was not the common good - the Government has already lost a Billion pounds in tax as people stop smoking and its only forecast to get even worse with a resulting black hole in the Budget. Gen Z are stopping smoking, drinking and driving - the loss of taxation is going to cripple the economy. Gen Z are vaping like bunnies in a crack lab now instead … probably marginally more damaging than smoking high tar cigarettes. Look at pics of youngsters lungs after only 5 years vaping. The NHS knew it … and promoted it. 🙄🤯 I think a healthier lifestyle isn’t a bad thing … the Government only spent/wasted those Billions sending our troops to die on foreign fields for foreign interests. … and bombing the f. out of the environment. What’s the Green jackboot print of today’s NATO ? … with it’s allegedly “harmless MOD low grade nuclear waste currently being scattered all over the Eastern Block and Russia right now. Improving the quality of food delivered to the poorest people … affordable good nutrition, freedom and choice is the key here I feel. … Taking the harmful junk out of junk food … is the way to stop too many working class people farting more than cows … and thus being lined up for eradication by Green Deep State Globalists who seem to want to do ‘euthanasia’ as a side-line hobby … to anything that gives off excess emissions!🤔
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Post by Vinny on Jan 25, 2024 9:19:46 GMT
The thread is about climate change pollution and answers.
Answers are trees aren't they? Climate change and pollution are self evident and the storms we've endured lately were a symptom of the changes in climate.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 25, 2024 11:27:49 GMT
The thread is about climate change pollution and answers. Answers are trees aren't they? Climate change and pollution are self evident and the storms we've endured lately were a symptom of the changes in climate. The storms we have had lately are a symptom of weather. It is the AGW lobby that has settled on trends as the meaningful way to look at climate and the trends are not showing any major problems at all. Some years we have very few storms some years we lots of storms. Weather depends on a host of reasons and is what we experience, climate is broadly what we would expect on average and most years are never average or at least have not been for as long as i can remember.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 25, 2024 11:36:22 GMT
Weather is a symptom of climate.
You get storms because of extreme pressure differences in the atmosphere. In as simple terms as I can explain, winds are caused by low pressure regions, air moves from high pressure to low as the pressures try to balance.
There was a very extreme low pressure system northwest of Scotland and that triggered the storms. Meanwhile, over Africa where it's a lot hotter, high pressure.
The systems interact.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 25, 2024 11:57:56 GMT
Weather is a symptom of climate. You get storms because of extreme pressure differences in the atmosphere. In as simple terms as I can explain, winds are caused by low pressure regions, air moves from high pressure to low as the pressures try to balance. There was a very extreme low pressure system northwest of Scotland and that triggered the storms. Meanwhile, over Africa where it's a lot hotter, high pressure. The systems interact. I do not disagree but they are not evidence of climate change unless there is a trend and so far those trends are not seen then any event that is extreme in any direction hot, cold, wet, windy is heralded as evidence of AGW.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 25, 2024 12:07:55 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Jan 25, 2024 12:17:01 GMT
Oh dear. No one is disputing a warming trend; its magnitude, the reasons why it is happening and what we can and should do about it are the main points of discussion. The loss events graph is not related to the frequency of specific events it is related to the loss in specific events which is always going to increase with the building on higher risk zones better reporting and clearer communication. If you do the same type of graph with loss of life in such events it drops rapidly.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 25, 2024 12:22:48 GMT
What we can and should do, is plant trees, lots of trees, and other high energy crops to absorb CO2. We should use sanctions against countries which destroy rainforests.
And we should develop viable alternatives to fossil fuels including Thorium nuclear power stations.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 25, 2024 13:09:28 GMT
Another thing we can do is use less energy. Better insulation, energy efficient appliances, fewer overseas holidays etc.
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Post by borchester on Jan 25, 2024 14:06:04 GMT
I've had a meat free diet for 40 years. I've not lived in a house for over 35 years. I've been using a composting toilet for the last 10 years. I don't just talk the talk. Let's face you middle class types always think you are wiser than us poor downtrodden working clarse types. We were brought up to respect the local environment, always something growing in the garden or out in the local fields and hedgerows. That was a wisdom passed down over generations. I have friends on a West Country commune who just dig a hole and get on with it. And afterwards they wipe their backsides with leaves or whatever.
I have not shaken hands with any of them for over 50 years
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2024 15:34:59 GMT
Weather is a symptom of climate. You get storms because of extreme pressure differences in the atmosphere. In as simple terms as I can explain, winds are caused by low pressure regions, air moves from high pressure to low as the pressures try to balance. There was a very extreme low pressure system northwest of Scotland and that triggered the storms. Meanwhile, over Africa where it's a lot hotter, high pressure. The systems interact. I was discussing weather thermals and climate manipulation programmes being engaged by universities and the military months ago … glad you’ve finally caught up to where some climate damage has come from … the U.S. Military in the Northern Hemisphere trying to play God with weather since WW2. Here’s more details to jog your memory: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/604/secret-state-toxic-spray-killing…. all I got back then were denials and accusations it was all ‘b*******cks … but as you know … everything sprayed in the atmosphere can potentially affect the delicate balances of ozone/protective ionospheric layering. Check out the details of the HAARP Programme … and the microwave technology now visible on many U.S. military ships that have the potential to shift cloud formations into another airstream … and deprive a country of precious rainfall … causing droughts and heatwaves … all part of the weather warfare programme which can have serious implications … because once drought is triggered, new dust bowls form … and a domino affect of thermal changes can become permanent … until the land is artificially irrigated back into recovery, foliage grows and the landmass cools significantly. Iran accused U.S. warships in the Atlantic and Mediterranean using microwave technology to push seasonal rain clouds north into Europe causing uncharacteristic flash flooding … water they traditionally got at that time of the year.
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 25, 2024 17:25:17 GMT
Another thing we can do is use less energy. Better insulation, energy efficient appliances, fewer overseas holidays etc. Actually, we do generally use less energy in a number ways. Double glazing, reduced clothes washing, showers rather than baths etc. Then there was industrial power electronics, my field. Energy efficiency was paramount particularly especially in the water industry. A pump power is typically 97-98 efficiency.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 25, 2024 17:41:09 GMT
Another thing we can do is use less energy. Better insulation, energy efficient appliances, fewer overseas holidays etc. Actually, we do generally use less energy in a number ways. Double glazing, reduced clothes washing, showers rather than baths etc. Then there was industrial power electronics, my field. Energy efficiency was paramount particularly especially in the water industry. A pump power is typically 97-98 efficiency. Many things can be done with little effort and minimum inconvenience. Drying clothes on radiators or a washing line rather than using a tumble dryer for example. Cutting down on food waste is an important thing we can do. Making use of leftovers and understanding the difference between sell by and use by dates.
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