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Post by zanygame on Jan 7, 2024 19:05:14 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jan 7, 2024 19:05:18 GMT
You used false statistics rather than ONS statistics.
Your trade deficit stats were way off.
See my previous post.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 7, 2024 19:12:47 GMT
See mine too.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 7, 2024 19:13:13 GMT
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 7, 2024 19:37:48 GMT
As a leaver and from outside the EU the answer of course can be different than it would be from a leaver still inside the EU . I don't really see it ,the question that is as anything other than mischief making . Even a 99% in favour of seeing the EU in a good light doesn't mean rejoining ,a different question altogether would attain 51%
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Post by Equivocal on Jan 7, 2024 19:37:55 GMT
What we need to see is a year-by-year figure for the UK trade balance for both goods and services expressed in 2015 sterling value, and if possible given separately for the EU and RoW. Then we might be able to have an intelligent discussion on the topic.  |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 7, 2024 20:43:47 GMT
The success or failure of Brexit is not found in trade figures which are subject to a host of variables and must be compared to the other EU members.
It is found in the fulfillment of promises made.
Control of borders
Cheaper clothing
Cheaper food.
Cutting of bureaucracy
Control of your money...a false promise (you always had control of your own money)
NHS swimming in money.
Everyone working for the glory of the sovereign state.
An all round improvement in every aspect of the lives of everyone.
And the two Big Ones...
The collapse of the German car industry
AND
The collapse of the EU itself!
How are those working out?
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Post by sandypine on Jan 7, 2024 20:49:40 GMT
The success or failure of Brexit is not found in trade figures which are subject to a host of variables and must be compared to the other EU members. It is found in the fulfillment of promises made. Control of borders Cheaper clothing Cheaper food. Cutting of bureaucracy Control of your money...a false promise (you always had control of your own money) NHS swimming in money. Everyone working for the glory of the sovereign state. An all round improvement in every aspect of the lives of everyone. How are those working out? Having an ability to do something and make sweeping improvements requires a government intent on doing that. It was always the case that winning back the ability did not necessarily mean it was going to be properly enacted by those tasked with doing it. It is horses and water we can lead the government to the trough etc. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 7, 2024 21:01:03 GMT
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 7, 2024 21:08:07 GMT
sandypineBut your government post brexit was ethnically pure brexit. Those who disagreed were thrown out of the party...Dominic Grieve etc. What you are finally seeing is the crap that promoted brexit being seen for what they are and always were...liars, pirhanas in a small self defined pool. Those who thought that the public were so stupid as to swallow any shiny promise they made. Well it has taken 8 years for the public to see under their skirts. You can fool some of the people some of the time but eventually when you dont deliver, and they make fools of themselves, the public realises they have been conned. And you can expect a whipping.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 7, 2024 21:12:05 GMT
@zany
You could always trade wirh any country.
That is what the WTO is for and the EU was/is a member along with every EU member in its own right.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 7, 2024 21:17:22 GMT
@zany You could always trade wirh any country. That is what the WTO is for and the EU was/is a member along with every EU member in its own right. Not trade. Trade deals. Like the one we tried to get with the USA where we thought we could get a better deal than through the EU. But strangely the U.S thought the giant EU was more important than tiny UK. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 7, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
Both the UK EU trade deficit and the global trade deficit has fallen as a percentage.
Global trade deficit now 2.5 percent.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 7, 2024 22:06:36 GMT
Both the UK EU trade deficit and the global trade deficit has fallen as a percentage. Global trade deficit now 2.5 percent. link |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 7, 2024 22:11:27 GMT
I don't believe continental governments are as generous and accommodating towards their new charges as HMG. I'm sure none of them are shelling out £8 million a day (£3 billion a year) for hotels alone. They don't need to be as they foist them off onto us. |
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