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Post by buccaneer on Jan 13, 2024 11:51:59 GMT
I've alread explained (as you know full well) why Johnson did that, against a backdrop of anti-democratic wishes. The rest is EU-phile conspiracy theory. The people didn't vote for a hard Brexit. It wasn't in the least bit undemocratic to refuse to allow something the people didn't vote for. The people voted in in an advisory referendum. For you to insist on an outcome that contradicted the very basis upon which the referendum was held is itself undemocratic. Add that to the fact that Johnson falsely pitched the referendum as 'The EU or the NHS' and you'll find that Parliament was absolutely right to do what it did. Finally, consider that the result would have been overturned if it had been a mandatory referendum, in the same way that a Swiss referendum was recently overturned on the basis of misinformation put out in the lead-up to a referendum in that country. You don't get to speak on behalf of leavers and what they voted for. Lol. You insist on an outcome of all your shoddy polls! I don't remember Johnson falsely pitching that - what rubbish, Theresa May was the PM at the time of the WA anyhow. So no, Parliament was absolutely wrong to do what it did - there, you tacitly admit the remainers in Parliament were anti-democratic. Thanks for that. Whataboutery - claiming the result would have been overturned in the UK if it was mandatory. What has that got to do with the anti-democratic Europhiles? |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 13, 2024 11:57:36 GMT
Not that any of the above matters now, of course. Farage himself has predicted 10 years of Labour rule. That's a lot of Brino. Fair enough, given the public's change of attitude in respect of Brexit. And still the UK won't rejoin the EU, Single Market, Customs Union and it won't be ruled by Brussels' stooges at the ECJ. While you have been promising the Earth for a long long time regarding going back to the EU, I think you will be disappointed with the outcome under a Labour-government. By the time that comes around I predicted you'll be doing what you've been doing for the last 8 years and we'll have more of your "in ten more years I promise you this, just you wait and see MWHAHA' rhetoric. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 12:00:32 GMT
The people didn't vote for a hard Brexit. It wasn't in the least bit undemocratic to refuse to allow something the people didn't vote for. The people didn't vote for a soft Brexit either, they just voted to leave the EU - Parliament decides how and they made their decision. Best you learn to live with it. Everybody will be happy with Brino. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 12:02:22 GMT
The people didn't vote for a hard Brexit. It wasn't in the least bit undemocratic to refuse to allow something the people didn't vote for. The people voted in in an advisory referendum. For you to insist on an outcome that contradicted the very basis upon which the referendum was held is itself undemocratic. Add that to the fact that Johnson falsely pitched the referendum as 'The EU or the NHS' and you'll find that Parliament was absolutely right to do what it did. Finally, consider that the result would have been overturned if it had been a mandatory referendum, in the same way that a Swiss referendum was recently overturned on the basis of misinformation put out in the lead-up to a referendum in that country. You don't get to speak on behalf of leavers and what they voted for. Lol. You insist on an outcome of all your shoddy polls! I don't remember Johnson falsely pitching that - what rubbish, Theresa May was the PM at the time of the WA anyhow. So no, Parliament was absolutely wrong to do what it did - there, you tacitly admit the remainers in Parliament were anti-democratic. Thanks for that. Whataboutery - claiming the result would have been overturned in the UK if it was mandatory. What has that got to do with the anti-democratic Europhiles? LOL!!! Whataboutery? This from the poster who claims that the ECJ is biased despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary - more than 40 years of its ruling predominantly in favour of the UK when the Commission and the UK have clashed.  Brino is coming. So, it's all water under the bridge now. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 12:04:15 GMT
Not that any of the above matters now, of course. Farage himself has predicted 10 years of Labour rule. That's a lot of Brino. Fair enough, given the public's change of attitude in respect of Brexit. And still the UK won't rejoin the EU, Single Market, Customs Union and it won't be ruled by Brussels' stooges at the ECJ. While you have been promising the Earth for a long long time regarding going back to the EU, I think you will be disappointed with the outcome under a Labour-government. By the time that comes around I predicted you'll be doing what you've been doing for the last 8 years and we'll have more of your "in ten more years I promise you this, just you wait and see MWHAHA' rhetoric. Stay well and you'll see for yourself. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 13, 2024 12:05:31 GMT
You don't get to speak on behalf of leavers and what they voted for. Lol. You insist on an outcome of all your shoddy polls! I don't remember Johnson falsely pitching that - what rubbish, Theresa May was the PM at the time of the WA anyhow. So no, Parliament was absolutely wrong to do what it did - there, you tacitly admit the remainers in Parliament were anti-democratic. Thanks for that. Whataboutery - claiming the result would have been overturned in the UK if it was mandatory. What has that got to do with the anti-democratic Europhiles? LOL!!! Whataboutery? This from the poster who claims that the ECJ is biased despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary - more than 40 years of its ruling predominantly in favour of the UK when the Commission and the UK have clashed. Brino is coming. So, it's all water under the bridge now. You are a source of misinformation. 5-0 Read it and weep. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 13, 2024 12:06:09 GMT
And still the UK won't rejoin the EU, Single Market, Customs Union and it won't be ruled by Brussels' stooges at the ECJ. While you have been promising the Earth for a long long time regarding going back to the EU, I think you will be disappointed with the outcome under a Labour-government. By the time that comes around I predicted you'll be doing what you've been doing for the last 8 years and we'll have more of your "in ten more years I promise you this, just you wait and see MWHAHA' rhetoric. Stay well and you'll see for yourself. Says the source of misinformation. 5-0 |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 12:08:43 GMT
LOL!!! Whataboutery? This from the poster who claims that the ECJ is biased despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary - more than 40 years of its ruling predominantly in favour of the UK when the Commission and the UK have clashed. Brino is coming. So, it's all water under the bridge now. You are a source of misinformation. 5-0 Read it and weep. LOL! It's not even half-time and it looks like most of your team is about to be sent off. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 13, 2024 12:52:44 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 13:11:51 GMT
If that Matt Gallagher bloke lives in NI, he is still effectively in the EU. If he isn't, he is probably one of the majority who now regret Brexit. And regardless of whether he is one of those people, he will soon be living under Brino. So, all's well that ends well, Vinny. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 13:32:17 GMT
EUSSR lawmakers urge pressure on Hungary to respect rule of law.... Thats dictoirial darling that is.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 13:33:48 GMT
A bit like the ECJ are ze Commission's people. Back that up. The Commission is the policeman of the treaties. Its function is to enforce EU rules and to bring a member state before the ECJ for trial if it believes that member state has broken the rules. It is a fact that the ECJ ruled in Britain's favour more often than it ruled in favour of the Commission when the Commission brought the UK before it. That's strange behaviour for a court supposedly made up of Commission stooges. You, Jonksy, and B-4 are a constant source of misinformation. Its interesting that one of the main blocks to the UK re-joining the EU is that current members remember how often they had to give us special concessions. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 13:36:01 GMT
Back that up. The Commission is the policeman of the treaties. Its function is to enforce EU rules and to bring a member state before the ECJ for trial if it believes that member state has broken the rules. It is a fact that the ECJ ruled in Britain's favour more often than it ruled in favour of the Commission when the Commission brought the UK before it. That's strange behaviour for a court supposedly made up of Commission stooges. You, Jonksy, and B-4 are a constant source of misinformation. Its interesting that one of the main blocks to the UK re-joining the EU is that current members remember how often they had to give us special concessions. What concesseions FFS? |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 13:38:24 GMT
You're no reliable source of information yourself. The EU/Commission is notorious for bending and breaking its own "rules" when it suits. The trolls on here who post personal abuse around the clock for the EU on all EU related threads are of no interest to me personally. If it wants to smear me then at least it shows how intolerant they really are. Ahh. Poor you a victim again. Its unbelievable how they pick on you. You compare the EU to Nazis and call them names and they just turn on you. Where are the mods when yo need them. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 13, 2024 13:39:09 GMT
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