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Post by Totheleft on Jan 7, 2024 15:26:15 GMT
There's plenty of fraud goes on, Lefty. Try Googling it. There possibly is i call recall news reports of people claiming disabled benefits and being found Guilty of fraud. But the Government must nor think its abused has much has State pension
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 7, 2024 15:55:46 GMT
I mean all non universal welfare payments as I stated State pension is universal age related payment and is taxable Unemployment/disability/child etc are all non universal and non taxable OK so why are they having a law to have acceas to every one bank account who Claim State pension if they didn't expect fraud on a wide scale. Have already asked and was ignored - link please Updated: Have googled and this is in reference to a bill going through Parliament to require information/red flags from banks in cases of suspected fraud by all benefit claimants It does not specifically relate to state pensioners The UK government plans to monitor the bank accounts of benefit claimants, claiming the measure will improve the detection of fraud in the welfare system.
Ahead of the King’s Speech in early November 2023, ministers told The Telegraph that new anti-fraud plans seeking to expand government access to bank account data would be implemented in upcoming legislation to deal with the increasing number of people on out-of-work benefits, which has risen to 5.4 million people since the onset of the pandemic. According to the Autumn Statement: “The government will...take further action on fraud and error by legislating to increase the DWP’s access to data on benefit claimants that is held by third parties (e.g. banks). “This will enable DWP to better identify fraud in the welfare system, especially in detecting fraudulent claims where there is undeclared capital, which is the second highest type of welfare fraud. These extra powers are estimated to generate around £300m per year savings by 2028-29.”
www.computerweekly.com/news/366560856/DWP-to-surveil-bank-accounts-of-benefit-claimants-for-fraud
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 7, 2024 16:07:34 GMT
There's plenty of fraud goes on, Lefty. Try Googling it. There possibly is i call recall news reports of people claiming disabled benefits and being found Guilty of fraud. But the Government must nor think its abused has much has State pension You've provided no proof of that. Personally, I think that the whole "Disability benefit" thing is much more open to abuse and needs kicking into touch.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 7, 2024 17:24:54 GMT
There possibly is i call recall news reports of people claiming disabled b5enefits and being found Guilty of fraud. But the Government must nor think its abused has much has State pension You've provided no proof of that. Personally, I think that the whole "Disability benefit" thing is much more open to abuse and needs kicking into touch. What you mean I provided no proof of it have you not read my opening post?
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 8, 2024 7:57:00 GMT
The pension isn't means tested so what are they after? I know but it could be some pensioners are working while claiming pension how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ? And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 8, 2024 8:10:20 GMT
I know but it could be some pensioners are working while claiming pension how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ?
And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot. I try and pay all small businesses cash and never ask for a receipt - whether they put it through the books or not is a choice for them.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 8, 2024 8:12:43 GMT
I know but it could be some pensioners are working while claiming pension how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ? And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot. People can just deposit extra money im cash from work while claiming benefit
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2024 9:56:05 GMT
how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ? And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot. People can just deposit extra money im cash from work while claiming benefit Only if you are paid in cash and the employer is willing to absorb the cost of your wages ie not report your address to the tax man . Pretty much never happens now. You are 30 years out of date .
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 8, 2024 10:13:29 GMT
People can just deposit extra money im cash from work while claiming benefit Only if you are paid in cash and the employer is willing to absorb the cost of your wages ie not report your address to the tax man . Pretty much never happens now. You are 30 years out of date . Urm it seems Pacifico expanded that most small self employed business took in cash Are you telling a self employed person who reached pension age can't work on the shy and not tell the DWP?
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2024 10:39:16 GMT
Only if you are paid in cash and the employer is willing to absorb the cost of your wages ie not report your address to the tax man . Pretty much never happens now. You are 30 years out of date . Urm it seems Pacifico expanded that most small self employed business took in cash Are you telling a self employed person who reached pension age can't work on the shy and not tell the DWP? Ok so now you mean self employed pensioners who will only take cash and do not pay tax on the money? So how many do you think there are and how many are claiming disability benefits ?
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 8, 2024 11:38:07 GMT
how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ?
And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot. I try and pay all small businesses cash and never ask for a receipt - whether they put it through the books or not is a choice for them. me too.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 8, 2024 11:46:07 GMT
Only if you are paid in cash and the employer is willing to absorb the cost of your wages ie not report your address to the tax man . Pretty much never happens now. You are 30 years out of date . Urm it seems Pacifico expanded that most small self employed business took in cash I think he said he tries to pay them in cash, and chooses not to bother with a receipt. I do the same because i was a small business and know the difference between the flat fee i was charged to deposit cash - and cheques - into the bank account from all amounts received that week, and the christ knows how many oer cent the bank stole fir card payments. To be fair almost all my work was business to business i’d be surprised if even 5% was the ‘my laptop has a virus / wont start / etc’ so it was not a big deal but i saw no reason to bloat my bank’s orofits. In the good old days when the post office still paid out some pensions and benefits in cash they were a godsend to the little guy as they LOVED receiving cash from SME’s and said so, publicly.
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 8, 2024 15:41:39 GMT
how exactly does that work ? Or more precisely how does anyone ‘work’ these days without the tax man knowing ? And if they do, anyone who has the rewards from that paid into a UK bank account is a total fucking idiot. People can just deposit extra money im cash from work while claiming benefit Deposit cash where? Banks can ask questions if large cash amounts are banked - money laundering regs But I agree , many working age spongers/scroungers/lazyitis sufferers do work on the black market
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