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Post by sandypine on Nov 29, 2022 17:37:20 GMT
It’s not about you . You don’t discriminate against one ethnic group to make up for discrimination against others in the past . If you have any moral integrity, anyway. If one ethnic group is discriminating against another ethnic group then the problem should be solved at source , not repeated. Yes you do precisely that. If the Met are 99% white and the London population is 80% white. You need to address that. I know there's rarely a way to be absolutely fair, all you can do is get fairer. Why do you need to address that? The premier league is about 40% BAME players do we need to address that or do the supporters not worry about to whom they give their support. Do we need to get fairer in football? |
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Post by Orac on Nov 29, 2022 17:41:06 GMT
Did you forget posting ' Which makes me now wonder why we have substantial laws against racial discrimination for employers.Certainly it makes me wonder. One might naively assume that we have laws against racial discrimination because the government considers it wrong (unfair) to individuals to racially discriminate. However, if, in addition the law is racially discriminatory, one is left wondering just what the government underlying rationale might be. And then there's your Nov 26, 2022 at 4:05pm missive in effect saying you don't want racial discrimination by employers to be a crime. I think it's a very bad idea indeed to have such law, because the fact of the matter is subjective and, as so, open to corrupt interpretation. That doesn't mean I want or support racially discrinatory law. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2022 17:41:33 GMT
No, you look like you are being deliberately obtuse. The believed normal practice is that given two people one coloured the other white, of equal abilities. Then the white person would be given the position. A limited period of giving the equally qualified coloured person the position was hoped to create a fairer percentage balance. If the KKK are looking for support I think that you might fit the bill. “Two wrongs make a right” fallacy . Its a racist position constructed by self hating racists and supported by self hating racists . Two wrongs don't make a right, is true in many situations, but has absolutely sweet FA to do with my post you have replied to. Your second comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid. (Which I don't think you actually are). When you read something you can't fully understand, then why not ask for clarification? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2022 17:44:38 GMT
If the KKK are looking for support I think that you might fit the bill. I don't know why you would jump to that conclusion. Unlike yourself, I have never (for instance) supported racially discriminatory law NOR HAVE I. So please do not insinuate a lie about me. Smart arse answers that ignore your introduction of the KKK only work in your mind. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 29, 2022 17:45:02 GMT
Did you forget posting ' Which makes me now wonder why we have substantial laws against racial discrimination for employers.Certainly it makes me wonder. One might naively assume that we have laws against racial discrimination because the government considers it wrong (unfair) to individuals to racially discriminate. However, if, in addition the law is racially discriminatory, one is left wondering just what the government underlying rationale might be. And then there's your Nov 26, 2022 at 4:05pm missive in effect saying you don't want racial discrimination by employers to be a crime. I think it's a very bad idea indeed to have such law, because the fact of the matter is subjective and, as so, open to corrupt interpretation. That doesn't mean I want or support racially discrinatory law. You're trying to move the goalposts. You tried to deny you oppose laws and initiatives aimed at reducing racial discrimination or the effects of it and now you've been shown up as very much doing so, you're falsely trying to pretend that wasn't the point. I suggest you use a straight bat in future |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2022 17:47:40 GMT
Yes you do precisely that. If the Met are 99% white and the London population is 80% white. You need to address that. I know there's rarely a way to be absolutely fair, all you can do is get fairer. Why do you need to address that? The premier league is about 40% BAME players do we need to address that or do the supporters not worry about to whom they give their support. Do we need to get fairer in football? What a completely ridiculous misinterpretation of reality. Caused by your previously apparently posted racism. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2022 17:52:39 GMT
Yes you do precisely that. If the Met are 99% white and the London population is 80% white. You need to address that. I know there's rarely a way to be absolutely fair, all you can do is get fairer. what would be absolutely fair is to employ police officers on their personal merit , Not to match the ratio of ethnic groups. Absolutely correct, that is why the Practice of giving white people preference over equally qualified coloured people is racist and needed to be addressed. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 29, 2022 17:54:40 GMT
“Two wrongs make a right” fallacy . Its a racist position constructed by self hating racists and supported by self hating racists . Two wrongs don't make a right, is true in many situations, but has absolutely sweet FA to do with my post you have replied to. Your second comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid. (Which I don't think you actually are). When you read something you can't fully understand, then why not ask for clarification? It has everything to with it . Your comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid . See I can do that too. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 29, 2022 17:55:39 GMT
Why do you need to address that? The premier league is about 40% BAME players do we need to address that or do the supporters not worry about to whom they give their support. Do we need to get fairer in football? What a completely ridiculous misinterpretation of reality. Caused by your previously apparently posted racism. ?? Is the premier league not over 40% BAME and where was the previous apparently posted racism? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 29, 2022 17:56:26 GMT
what would be absolutely fair is to employ police officers on their personal merit , Not to match the ratio of ethnic groups. Absolutely correct, that is why the Practice of giving white people preference over equally qualified coloured people is racist and needed to be addressed. It cannot be addressed by discriminating against white people. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 29, 2022 17:57:50 GMT
I suggest you use a straight bat in future I've done nothing but tell the truth here. I'm not in favour racial discriminatory law and I find it a bit odd that who feels racial discrimination should be a crime, is, or could be. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 29, 2022 17:59:58 GMT
what would be absolutely fair is to employ police officers on their personal merit , Not to match the ratio of ethnic groups. Absolutely correct, that is why the Practice of giving white people preference over equally qualified coloured people is racist and needed to be addressed. Apparently they cannot find the equally qualified BAME candidates even when making special efforts so perhaps to have police we take those available and are qualified and not worry about proportionality. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2022 18:00:52 GMT
Two wrongs don't make a right, is true in many situations, but has absolutely sweet FA to do with my post you have replied to. Your second comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid. (Which I don't think you actually are). When you read something you can't fully understand, then why not ask for clarification? It has everything to with it . Your comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid . See I can do that too. When a so called wrong is designed to decrease a wrong that already exist it is a benefit not a wrong. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 29, 2022 18:04:31 GMT
It has everything to with it . Your comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid . See I can do that too. When a so called wrong is designed to decrease a wrong that already exist it is a benefit not a wrong. No it’s not. You either condemn racial discrimination or you condone it . Discrimination against white people is as morally wrong as discrimination against any other racial group. The solution is to address the problem from the source , not repeat it . |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 29, 2022 18:25:36 GMT
It has everything to with it . Your comment is so far away from reality as to make you look stupid . See I can do that too. When a so called wrong is designed to decrease a wrong that already exist it is a benefit not a wrong. Huh? So if you have had a tenner stolen off you it is just fine and dandy to steal a fiver off someone else to lessen your loss making your second theft a benefit. |
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