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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 25, 2023 11:10:45 GMT
Personally I'd make all the sections troll free. But it's a debate that probably isn't suited to Mind Zone. I disagree. One can mock the concept that people believe in a sky fairy without picking on particular individuals who believe it, and there is a wealth of literate opinion offering entirely rational alternative opinion.
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Post by piglet on Dec 25, 2023 12:57:06 GMT
Would a father give his children ashes and poison to eat? Or give them the best?
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Post by Vanna on Dec 25, 2023 13:16:49 GMT
Merry Christmas, you lovely people full of good cheer and brotherly love.  For those who come to the mind zone, lonely and sad on this day, I wish you good things. Remember it's just a day like any other in Nature and all the universe of living things are as they were yesterday and will be tomorrow. Pour yourself something nice and feel good. Same of us are thinking of some of you, and not just at Christmas. . And what about those of us who come here far from sad, far from lonely, but actually wanting ten minutes peace and quiet before all hell in the form of kids and grandkids descend ? what of us ? .. oh bugger too late have to go do some stuffing I have a ritual that i go pay some bills on Christmas day, just to see if the banking system is up, so I can mock the likes of Natwest, who did not listen to me and enjoyed the worst outage of online banking EVER. That WAS fun. Anyone who tries to rollback a failed transaction without first shutting down the CHAPS and fast transfer server, because they want to be the first to avoid the "we're terribly sorry we hae to suspend online servces for a few hours for routine maintenance" needs to take a swan dive into the thames from the top floor of canary wharf's tower.
I sent the project manager that failed to listen to me when seeking to recruit techies that had successfully updated such a system, preferring instead to listedn to a bunch of untested and overseas based idiots 50p in a Christmas card the following year so he could remember what he should have done.
Revenge ?? Hell No. Just a little christmas cheer and the means to go buy a packet of Aldi Sprouts. I think coming here for peace and quiet is a bit odd.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2023 14:08:30 GMT
It's a puzzle. If God doesn't exist and Jesus was not His only begotten Son sent here to fulfil a plan of salvation for the rest of us then why do those who make such noise that they don't believe make such a song and dance about 'celebrating' Christmas? One would think that in this so enlightened age that 25th December would pass by with little recognition except by those who do believe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2023 14:45:15 GMT
Even non believers are happily sending their kids to school where they do nativity plays with hymns and carols. I know, my son in law is from a heathen tribe in Essex.  My grand-daughter loves to sing "Jesus' love is very wonderful" and gets Alexa to play it. It is CHRISTmas after all. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 25, 2023 15:05:09 GMT
It's a puzzle. If God doesn't exist and Jesus was not His only begotten Son sent here to fulfil a plan of salvation for the rest of us then why do those who make such noise that they don't believe make such a song and dance about 'celebrating' Christmas? One would think that in this so enlightened age that 25th December would pass by with little recognition except by those who do believe. was it C S Lewis who wrote of the two populations in one society, one sect celebrating a religious festival called christmas, the other marking a feast of excess called ExMas, and strangely both on the same day. I’ve already explained i follow the tradition of my pagan viking ancestors who chose this day to get pissed long before the jews persuaded people to nick it. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 25, 2023 22:23:33 GMT
There is no section for religion or spirituality so ill put this here. Christmas is a religious festival, its the birth of gods son into this hole, im sure that will be an eye opener for most. And the shepherd tended his flock, and found that one was missing, so he left the flock to find the one, and on finding, he rejoiced, carrying in triumph the sheep on his shoulders. Arien, as before, the battle never ends for minds. Let that one sheep be you, who reads this. Ask and it will be given. Now the mocking of the beast will begin. I hope you will be first to congratulate this forward looking priest www.reuters.com/world/europe/blasphemous-same-sex-nativity-scene-angers-conservatives-italy-2023-12-23/ |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 27, 2023 1:35:03 GMT
It's a puzzle. If God doesn't exist and Jesus was not His only begotten Son sent here to fulfil a plan of salvation for the rest of us then why do those who make such noise that they don't believe make such a song and dance about 'celebrating' Christmas? One would think that in this so enlightened age that 25th December would pass by with little recognition except by those who do believe. There is a bit in the bible, can't remember the section, but is says it is a holy thing for people to have a few drinks and be merry together. It endorses the idea that humans together having fun and relaxing helps to build good feelings. It's one of those things some people don't readily associate with the church, but in our town in the past it was very much a feature of the church. It was the landlord of most of the pubs. So to answer your question, I guess it is just something that feel right, as you could say doing a good turn to help a friend just naturally feels right, whether or not you consider yourself a churchgoing person. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 9:35:46 GMT
It's a puzzle. If God doesn't exist and Jesus was not His only begotten Son sent here to fulfil a plan of salvation for the rest of us then why do those who make such noise that they don't believe make such a song and dance about 'celebrating' Christmas? One would think that in this so enlightened age that 25th December would pass by with little recognition except by those who do believe. There is a bit in the bible, can't remember the section, but is says it is a holy thing for people to have a few drinks and be merry together. It endorses the idea that humans together having fun and relaxing helps to build good feelings. It's one of those things some people don't readily associate with the church, but in our town in the past it was very much a feature of the church. It was the landlord of most of the pubs. So to answer your question, I guess it is just something that feel right, as you could say doing a good turn to help a friend just naturally feels right, whether or not you consider yourself a churchgoing person. This is true, there are several references but mankind tends to take in excess on all things. I am persuaded that God gifted all that the whole world would need but sadly too few have plundered and are plundering for power and greed leaving us where we are. There is an individual who knows us all well that whispers in our ears how me might benefit from selfish dealings and luckily for us all Jesus came across the same in the wilderness but knew who he was dealing with. |
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Post by Vanna on Dec 27, 2023 12:48:22 GMT
It's a puzzle. If God doesn't exist and Jesus was not His only begotten Son sent here to fulfil a plan of salvation for the rest of us then why do those who make such noise that they don't believe make such a song and dance about 'celebrating' Christmas? One would think that in this so enlightened age that 25th December would pass by with little recognition except by those who do believe. was it C S Lewis who wrote of the two populations in one society, one sect celebrating a religious festival called christmas, the other marking a feast of excess called ExMas, and strangely both on the same day. I’ve already explained i follow the tradition of my pagan viking ancestors who chose this day to get pissed long before the jews persuaded people to nick it. Ah, you also have pagan viking ancestors. Yule was a festival to celebrate the return of the sun long before Christians took a similar thing from the Romans. We have all been thoroughly shafted, let's face it. But I blame people today who should know better. No longer terrified and illiterate there is no reason to believe in Jewish sky spirits to be your salvation when a) you aren't Jewish and b) you haven't committed any crimes so don't need saving. |
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