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Post by wapentake on Dec 17, 2023 13:44:37 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 17, 2023 14:51:07 GMT
People think Starmer is going to fix this problem?
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 17, 2023 23:37:18 GMT
People think Starmer is going to fix this problem? I wish he would piss off to Galway and say he’s come to fix their problems |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 18, 2023 0:53:23 GMT
The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas day
Merry Christmas! Shane McGowan turns in his grave as his countrymen, generations of which have sought refuge elsewhere, turn their backs on the needy this yuletide season!
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 18, 2023 1:08:34 GMT
The boys of the NYPD choir Still singing Galway Bay And the bells are ringing out For Christmas day Merry Christmas! Shane McGowan turns in his grave as his countrymen, generations of which have sought refuge elsewhere, turn their backs on the needy this yuletide season! The Irish complaining about immigrants is as ironic as the British complaining about invaders. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 18, 2023 9:34:04 GMT
Irony indeed, when one repeats an eye for an eye will make the world go blind.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 18, 2023 17:43:30 GMT
The boys of the NYPD choir Still singing Galway Bay And the bells are ringing out For Christmas day Merry Christmas! Shane McGowan turns in his grave as his countrymen, generations of which have sought refuge elsewhere, turn their backs on the needy this yuletide season! The Irish complaining about immigrants is as ironic as the British complaining about invaders. Why would you blame the people who stayed behind in their countries for the actions of those who left their countries. That sounds like collective/national guilt which I thought was anathema to the left. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 19, 2023 0:04:43 GMT
There's a lot of bad feeling in Ireland about mass immigration and Varadkar is desperate to supress it. He cant disappoint his EU masters. In the thread about the Dublin riots a couple of weeks ago I mentioned an Irish journalist who was interviewed from Dublin and said trouble has been simmering just under the surface for a few years because young Irish people are struggling to find jobs and homes, and that's because a country of 5 million has 1 million immigrants. Who in their right mind thinks that sort of forced mass immigration is a good idea? Is it any wonder right wing politicians and parties are comming to the fore not only in the EU, but in the UK too. Of course lefties will insist I'm a racist or far right, but let me tell you, the writing is on the wall and the EU know it. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 19, 2023 7:48:24 GMT
Yep. I shall be voting Reform this time around. I'm well aware that they probably won't get anywhere but at least my conscience will be clear in the coming establishment shit show.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 19, 2023 9:58:53 GMT
There's a lot of bad feeling in Ireland about mass immigration and Varadkar is desperate to supress it. He cant disappoint his EU masters. In the thread about the Dublin riots a couple of weeks ago I mentioned an Irish journalist who was interviewed from Dublin and said trouble has been simmering just under the surface for a few years because young Irish people are struggling to find jobs and homes, and that's because a country of 5 million has 1 million immigrants. Who in their right mind thinks that sort of forced mass immigration is a good idea? Is it any wonder right wing politicians and parties are comming to the fore not only in the EU, but in the UK too. Of course lefties will insist I'm a racist or far right, but let me tell you, the writing is on the wall and the EU know it. I’m afraid we’ve seen nothing yet and it will lead to some very unpleasant people coming to the fore,but whose fault is that? If you ignore what are legitimate concerns of ordinary people then in doing that they turn elsewhere and to people they’d normally ignore. Not so long ago there was trouble can't remember where about asylum seekers,the bbc interviewed many of the protestors who quietly all voiced their concerns and their reasoning for their stance. None of it was aired because I think they were expecting rants and raves but that’s not what they got,I’m not a beeb basher but ignoring the normally quiet reasonable majority is a mistake. This country has over many centuries absorbed waves of immigrant people who have become part of who we are,for various reasons the waves are becoming a tsunami of people of disparate cultures pointing that out is neither racist nor extremist,the movement of people is going to increase massively and some hard decisions are going to be have to be made. N my part of the world there are people who in very recent history as in post WW2 from Eastern Europe then people from the Caribbean they are not your Alf Garnett types and they are saying the same things. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 17:13:31 GMT
People think Starmer is going to fix this problem? I wish he would piss off to Galway and say he’s come to fix their problems If you want a laugh, apparently Starmer was asked to define "working class" on LBC the other day. He was really struggling. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Dec 19, 2023 17:33:10 GMT
Defining "working class" is nowhere near as straightforward as it once was.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 19, 2023 20:32:46 GMT
Defining "working class" is nowhere near as straightforward as it once was. I would agree but if people self define as working class they know very well Labour in part and NewLabour in particular have not only taken their vote under false pretenses but actively worked against their specific interests. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 20, 2023 8:02:56 GMT
Defining "working class" is nowhere near as straightforward as it once was. Actually it's easier: If you went to a state school and work for a living, you're working class.
I'm working class. The vast majority of people in the UK are.
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Post by walterpaisley on Dec 20, 2023 8:17:14 GMT
Actually it's easier: If you went to a state school and work for a living, you're working class. That'll be be, then. But what if one works through "choice", rather than out of "necessity"? Because that's me, too. Also, if ones leisure pursuits and interests are more likely to involve theatre, the arts, niche cinema, and community than, say, watching football and going down the pub, etc? Or reading broadsheets rather than tabloids? (Etc - the list can be as long as you care to make it..) I'm not sure that "class" is a straightforward as it once was. |
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