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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 14:50:12 GMT
Yes, Dave's a bloke according to your definition of a biological male. That's not disputed. Now, how about the other points in my post? Dave’s a bloke because he is a biological male….thats a bloke . Let's put the transgender issue aside for a moment. We've discussed that particular point at length. What are your thoughts on male curfews, streets or city areas designated for women only, stun-gun licences for women only, etc.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 14:54:15 GMT
Dave’s a bloke because he is a biological male….thats a bloke . Let's put the transgender issue aside for a moment. We've discussed that particular point at length. What are your thoughts on male curfews, streets or city areas designated for women only, stun-gun licences for women only, etc. Dave’s a bloke . There’s a changing broom for blokes . Dave can use that .
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:01:34 GMT
Let's put the transgender issue aside for a moment. We've discussed that particular point at length. What are your thoughts on male curfews, streets or city areas designated for women only, stun-gun licences for women only, etc. Dave’s a bloke . There’s a changing broom for blokes . Dave can use that . I see. So, you're just a bigot, then. You're in favour of measures to curb the threat of sexual assault by transgender women, but you're indifferent to sexual assaults committed by heterosexual men. Maybe, indifferent is too strong a word. Perhaps, it would be better to say that it just doesn't concern you as much. That appears to be borne out by the fact that you never miss an opportunity to highlight a supposed threat from the transgender community, but you never raise the matter in respect of heterosexual men. In fact, not only do you never mention it, you go out of your away to avoid discussing it. That's apparent in this very thread, where you have consistently dodged the issue.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 15:04:34 GMT
Dave’s a bloke . There’s a changing broom for blokes . Dave can use that . I see. So, you're just a bigot, then. You're in favour of measures to curb the threat of sexual assault by transgender women, but you're indifferent to sexual assaults committed by heterosexual men. Maybe, indifferent is too strong a word. Perhaps, it would be better to say that it just doesn't concern you as much. That appears to be borne out by the fact that you never miss an opportunity to highlight a supposed threat from the transgender community, but you never raise the matter in respect of heterosexual men. In fact, not only do you never mention it, you go out of your away to avoid discussing it. That's apparent in this very thread, where you have consistently dodged the issue. Bigot . Someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it ? What a funny little world you live in darling 😁
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:12:40 GMT
I see. So, you're just a bigot, then. You're in favour of measures to curb the threat of sexual assault by transgender women, but you're indifferent to sexual assaults committed by heterosexual men. Maybe, indifferent is too strong a word. Perhaps, it would be better to say that it just doesn't concern you as much. That appears to be borne out by the fact that you never miss an opportunity to highlight a supposed threat from the transgender community, but you never raise the matter in respect of heterosexual men. In fact, not only do you never mention it, you go out of your away to avoid discussing it. That's apparent in this very thread, where you have consistently dodged the issue. Bigot . Someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it ? What a funny little world you live in darling 😁 Yours is a funnier world. What percentage of sex crimes are committed by the transgender community? Is it 0.5% of the total? Is it even that high? It's very peculiar that you should focus on them. It looks very like bigotry.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 15:19:04 GMT
Bigot . Someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it ? What a funny little world you live in darling 😁 Yours is a funnier world. What percentage of sex crimes are committed by the transgender community? Is it 0.5% of the total? Is it even that high? It's very peculiar that you should focus on them. It looks very like bigotry. Yes it’s a bizarre world ( in your world ) where someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it isn’t a bigot. We agree on something .
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:25:24 GMT
Yours is a funnier world. What percentage of sex crimes are committed by the transgender community? Is it 0.5% of the total? Is it even that high? It's very peculiar that you should focus on them. It looks very like bigotry. Yes it’s a bizarre world ( in your world ) where someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it isn’t a bigot. We agree on something . Would you approve of: a) Male curfews b) Female-only areas in towns and cities. c) Special weapons licences for females only. There may be some practical issues. For instance, a male curfew may not be possible for emergency workers, males working night-shifts, etc. But, supposing there was a way to accommodate this (special licences, perhaps), would you support it? Or are you only concerned about the relatively insignificant threat posed by transgender women?
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 15:27:46 GMT
Yes it’s a bizarre world ( in your world ) where someone who isn’t groomed to believe a biological male is woman when the biological male feels like it isn’t a bigot. We agree on something . Would you approve of: a) Male curfews b) Female-only areas in towns and cities. c) Special weapons licences for females only. There may be some practical issues. For instance, a male curfew may not be possible for emergency workers, males working night-shifts, etc. But, supposing there was a way to accommodate this (special licences, perhaps), would you support it? Or are you only concerned about the relatively insignificant threat posed by transgender women? I’d approve of biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . That would be a great start 👍
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:29:09 GMT
Would you approve of: a) Male curfews b) Female-only areas in towns and cities. c) Special weapons licences for females only. There may be some practical issues. For instance, a male curfew may not be possible for emergency workers, males working night-shifts, etc. But, supposing there was a way to accommodate this (special licences, perhaps), would you support it? Or are you only concerned about the relatively insignificant threat posed by transgender women? I’d approve of biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . That would be a great start 👍 Okay, you support that. What about the other things mentioned above? There were three.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 14, 2023 15:36:23 GMT
That's a very good article, it's a shame so few will read it. It's a real warning that free speech, for the majority, is being quietly eroded in the name of diversity and as we all know, diversity is a race to the bottom. This judge Tanveer Ikram character comes across as a racist. Quote: ...At the 2022 New Year Honours he [Ikram] was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) by Boris Johnson for “services to judicial diversity”. And Ikram is among contributors to the Equal Treatment Bench Book, UK judiciary diversity guidance which employs many central tenets of identity politics, like “systemic” or “structural” racism, “unconscious bias,” and “micro-aggressions.” This ideology, which holds that individuals should be favoured or disfavoured according to their immutable characteristics, runs flatly counter to the bedrock legal principle of equal treatment before the law.This man should not be a judge, he is a danger to free speech and common sense.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 14, 2023 15:38:40 GMT
Except for this bit. "Yet last week’s ruling confirms that the scope of this law has now expanded to an absurd and chilling new level." It does no such thing. The scope of law can not change in such a court... No, precedent cannot be set in a Mags court but they are still as entitled to interpret the law as any other court. ...and the magistrates are not legally trained anyway... No, some are. District Judges also sit as magistrates. (Which is what the subject of the linked article appears to be). And I'm really talking from experience, by the way.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 15:42:48 GMT
I’d approve of biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . That would be a great start 👍 Okay, you support that. What about the other things mentioned above? There were three. I think we should start with biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . Lets try that first .
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:45:48 GMT
Okay, you support that. What about the other things mentioned above? There were three. I think we should start with biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . Lets try that first . We've already discussed that at length. You know what I think and I know what you think. Please feel free to ask any questions on the topic we haven't already discussed at length. So, do you support female-only areas, male curfews, special weapons licences for women? Just how far does your concern to reduce the incidence of sexual assault extend? Does it extend beyond the transgender community, and, if so, does it extend as far as any of the stated measures?
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 15:52:12 GMT
I think we should start with biological males defined as males and biological females defined as female . Lets try that first . We've already discussed that at length. You know what I think and I know what you think. Please feel free to ask any questions on the topic we haven't already discussed at length. So, do you support female-only areas, male curfews, special weapons licences for women? Yes I realise that you want to divert the threat with straw men but my point was about one subject within the context of the OP.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2023 15:55:15 GMT
We've already discussed that at length. You know what I think and I know what you think. Please feel free to ask any questions on the topic we haven't already discussed at length. So, do you support female-only areas, male curfews, special weapons licences for women? Yes I realise that you want to divert the threat with straw men but my point was about one subject within the context of the OP. I think it's safe to assume that you don't care about reducing sexual assault numbers. At least, not if that would require infringements on your rights. You know that the sexual assault numbers could be reduced, but you're not prepared to make sacrifices to that end. And why should you? You're not a rapist. Why should your freedoms be curtailed just because a tiny fraction of the male population are. But the same goes for transgender women.
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