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Post by Handyman on Oct 18, 2022 11:41:22 GMT
But in law the HRA has precedence over the deportation rules. And in the current case it is bleeding obvious that the Home Office either did not consider or (more likely) tried to bury the evidence that using Rwanda as an off shoring destination is high risk to the deported. Why do you wish to blame lawyers for pointing that out? It's their duty to point it out. I know I have stated that quite clearly, IMO some of these lawyers are politically motived and unlike you I do not entertain conspiracy theories I want violent offenders from overseas deported not allowed to stay here, Patel when she was Home Sec was attempting to discourage people unlawfully entering the UK day after day week in week. IMO as many people do for the simple fact our infrastructure is close to collapse with the sheer weight of numbers of alleged asylum seekers and economic migrants, that is why short of affordable housing, GPs are overburdened, etc etc and they are costing us £4 million pounds a day |
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 11:58:15 GMT
But in law the HRA has precedence over the deportation rules. And in the current case it is bleeding obvious that the Home Office either did not consider or (more likely) tried to bury the evidence that using Rwanda as an off shoring destination is high risk to the deported. Why do you wish to blame lawyers for pointing that out? It's their duty to point it out. I know I have stated that quite clearly, IMO some of these lawyers are politically motived and unlike you I do not entertain conspiracy theories I want violent offenders from overseas deported not allowed to stay here, Patel when she was Home Sec was attempting to discourage people unlawfully entering the UK day after day week in week. IMO as many people do for the simple fact our infrastructure is close to collapse with the sheer weight of numbers of alleged asylum seekers and economic migrants, that is why short of affordable housing, GPs are overburdened, etc etc and they are costing us £4 million pounds a day Far more than that in terms of social breakdown. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 20:47:44 GMT
. . .unlike you I do not entertain conspiracy theories . . . Oh do get real |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 19, 2022 9:18:22 GMT
It's not a lawyer's duty to take on cases that have the objective of thwarting the immigration regulations, it's a function of the 'cab rank' practice that barristers and KCs operate. They're just doing what they've been trained to do i.e. present the best possible case for their clients whether they believe in it or not.
The real drivers here are the firms of solicitors which handle immigration and asylum cases, and which 'instruct' barristers.
Some of these firms actively solicit this kind of work and others are engaged by one or another of the myriad campaign groups, 'charities', foundations and trusts, and even trade unions who make it their business to look out for 'migrant rights'.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 19, 2022 11:59:58 GMT
. . .unlike you I do not entertain conspiracy theories . . . Oh do get real I do live in the real world of facts, not Theories by the Tin Foil Hat Brigade, most of which are rarely proved to be factually correct, the product of people with very vivid imaginations and little substance |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 19, 2022 12:09:24 GMT
It's not a lawyer's duty to take on cases that have the objective of thwarting the immigration regulations, it's a function of the 'cab rank' practice that barristers and KCs operate. They're just doing what they've been trained to do i.e. present the best possible case for their clients whether they believe in it or not. The real drivers here are the firms of solicitors which handle immigration and asylum cases, and which 'instruct' barristers. Some of these firms actively solicit this kind of work and others are engaged by one or another of the myriad campaign groups, 'charities', foundations and trusts, and even trade unions who make it their business to look out for 'migrant rights'. Exactly, I am all for Human Rights including my own that is why I want my Countries borders policed properly, I also want convicted violent criminals from overseas deported ASAP and not living next door to me and mine |
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Post by Steve on Oct 19, 2022 20:15:01 GMT
I do live in the real world of facts, not Theories by the Tin Foil Hat Brigade, most of which are rarely proved to be factually correct, the product of people with very vivid imaginations and little substance Well go on then name these conspiracy theories you suppose I've posted |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 7:29:49 GMT
I have made no claim that you have posted any Conspiracy Theory what makes you think I have or would or could because I don't know nor do I want to know, but there are hundreds of conspiracy theories on the internet, dark web whatever they call it about hundreds of subjects from rather strange people about virtually everything, as I stated I don't entertain them
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 10:55:40 GMT
I have made no claim that you have posted any Conspiracy Theory what makes you think I have or would . . . this post of yours from Oct 18th - see highlight But in law the HRA has precedence over the deportation rules. And in the current case it is bleeding obvious that the Home Office either did not consider or (more likely) tried to bury the evidence that using Rwanda as an off shoring destination is high risk to the deported. Why do you wish to blame lawyers for pointing that out? It's their duty to point it out. I know I have stated that quite clearly, IMO some of these lawyers are politically motived and unlike you I do not entertain conspiracy theories I want violent offenders from overseas deported not allowed to stay here, Patel when she was Home Sec was attempting to discourage people unlawfully entering the UK day after day week in week. IMO as many people do for the simple fact our infrastructure is close to collapse with the sheer weight of numbers of alleged asylum seekers and economic migrants, that is why short of affordable housing, GPs are overburdened, etc etc and they are costing us £4 million pounds a day So maybe you could either back that or properly retract it |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 19:05:29 GMT
You have two hopes of that one is Bob Hope and he's dead,
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2022 19:17:22 GMT
You have two hopes of that one is Bob Hope and he's dead, LOL..👍👍 |
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 21:38:07 GMT
You have two hopes of that one is Bob Hope and he's dead, Ha ha. old joke and you couldn't even quote it properly. But your pathetic failure to answer a fair question about your false personal insult doesn't disguise that you went trolling and got found out. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2022 5:31:49 GMT
Well done VW. They should have left a few engines running with the Oxy sensors disconnected and chocked the losers.....Vorsprung durch spluternic...... Eco morons glue themselves to the floor of Volkswagen's German factory... so staff turn off the lights and heating and go home leaving the protesters moaning they can't order food or go to the toilet 'in a decent manner' Nine demonstrators have complained about their treatment during a protest They glued themselves to the floor of a Volkswagen dealership in Germany Staff turned out the lights and switched off the heating and left them inside Activists have complained they 'weren't given a bowl to urinate or defecate in' www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11337831/Climate-protestors-left-cold-dark-gluing-Volkswagen-shop-floor.html |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 21, 2022 18:08:06 GMT
You have two hopes of that one is Bob Hope and he's dead, Ha ha. old joke and you couldn't even quote it properly. But your pathetic failure to answer a fair question about your false personal insult doesn't disguise that you went trolling and got found out. Oh do dry your eyes, I don't do control freaks with fragile egos either  |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 21, 2022 18:09:03 GMT
Well done VW. They should have left a few engines running with the Oxy sensors disconnected and chocked the losers.....Vorsprung durch spluternic...... Eco morons glue themselves to the floor of Volkswagen's German factory... so staff turn off the lights and heating and go home leaving the protesters moaning they can't order food or go to the toilet 'in a decent manner' Nine demonstrators have complained about their treatment during a protest They glued themselves to the floor of a Volkswagen dealership in Germany Staff turned out the lights and switched off the heating and left them inside Activists have complained they 'weren't given a bowl to urinate or defecate in' www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11337831/Climate-protestors-left-cold-dark-gluing-Volkswagen-shop-floor.htmlJust been reading it, tears are running down me legs and nearly split me coffee |
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