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Post by Steve on Oct 14, 2022 20:26:54 GMT
Excuse me but I have to butt in with this - youtu.be/XiosyAZRmW8For their own safety, these morons need to be in prison. seconded But it must be so tempting to leave them stuck to that wall for 3 or 4 days
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 14, 2022 20:29:07 GMT
Excuse me but I have to butt in with this - youtu.be/XiosyAZRmW8For their own safety, these morons need to be in prison. seconded But it must be so tempting to leave them stuck to that wall for 3 or 4 days Absolutely. Especially if they're glued to the road and it's pouring with rain.
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Post by Steve on Oct 14, 2022 20:29:20 GMT
Yep definitely a couple of victims right there. Look at them. No they are attention seeking losers who think that their wish for undue attention and imagined glory trumps everyone else's wish for a decent society. Worse they know there is a sensible debate to be had over use of these fuels and they know their idiot self indulgences will actually harm the cause they affect to support. 'Victims' my arse
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Post by colbops on Oct 14, 2022 20:42:29 GMT
Yep definitely a couple of victims right there. Look at them. 1.) No they are attention seeking losers who think that their wish for undue attention and imagined glory trumps everyone else's wish for a decent society. 2.) Worse they know there is a sensible debate to be had over use of these fuels and they know 3.) their idiot self indulgences will actually harm the cause they affect to support. 'Victims' my arse 1.) That's a big assumption - and we've seen how wide of the mark your assumptions can be 2.) That they know / understand anything along those lines is a rather big assumption that might we somewhat wide of the mark. 3.) Well that's exactly what you are doing with your Russia rants - I take it you don't realise you undermine the cause you seek to support? why assume they do when you think you are smarter than they are?
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Post by Steve on Oct 14, 2022 22:46:31 GMT
Oh look I've got a stalker
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Post by Handyman on Oct 17, 2022 9:51:02 GMT
The new Home Secretary is putting forward a Bill hopefully before the end of the month to increase penalties and harsher sentences for Protesters that do not protest peacefully, I hope it gets approval from both sides of the House and the Lords. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63272648
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Post by Steve on Oct 17, 2022 9:53:13 GMT
The new Home Secretary is putting forward a Bill hopefully before the end of the month to increase penalties and harsher sentences for Protesters that do not protest peacefully, I hope it gets approval from both sides of the House and the Lords. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63272648Good
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 17, 2022 9:53:18 GMT
The new Home Secretary is putting forward a Bill hopefully before the end of the month to increase penalties and harsher sentences for Protesters that do not protest peacefully, I hope it gets approval from both sides of the House and the Lords. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63272648They keep telling us stuff like this, how long did we wait for Patel to sort out the illegal migrant crossings, she too was going to 'sort out' these Eco fuckin warrior's, I tell you what let the fuckers block me on a road, I'll twat them all over the place.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 17, 2022 12:43:35 GMT
Patel never got to grips with the illegal migrants, hampered all the way by Left Wing Human Rights Lawyers, it takes time to put Legislation into place no quick fix IMO
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Post by Steve on Oct 17, 2022 22:08:18 GMT
Patel never got to grips with the illegal migrants, hampered all the way by Left Wing Human Rights Lawyers, it takes time to put Legislation into place no quick fix IMO Why blame lawyers for upholding the law? Your grievance is with the laws as passed by Parliament.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 18, 2022 8:00:46 GMT
The defence lawyers' job is to challenge legislation in Court which they have done and been successful in blocking deportations or delaying them until a Court hears an appeal, that is why it takes a long time to deal with each one
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 8:39:53 GMT
The defence lawyers' job is to challenge legislation in Court which they have done and been successful in blocking deportations or delaying them until a Court hears an appeal, that is why it takes a long time to deal with each one Yes if upholding law means challenging incompatible subsidiary law then yes they will challenge it. That's their duty. But actually that's rarely the case. What you're complaining about is them challenging executive decisions where they are incompatible with existing law.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 18, 2022 10:36:04 GMT
When it comes to deportation of released Criminals after serving their sentences our Legislation permits us to deport them, however the Human Rights Lawyers table appeals at the last moment which means some get taken off the plane until a Court Hearing can be arranged which may take a long time for the Court to hear their challenge to the deportation
When it comes to Patel's scheme to fly them to Rwanda which we were told is permissible within our Legislation to do so, the lawyers once again challenge the existing legislation delay it happening or prevent it.
I am not complaining about our legislation as such but the tactics of Human Rights Lawyers, as I have stated our legislation is challenged in our Courts everyday
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 10:46:40 GMT
But in law the HRA has precedence over the deportation rules. And in the current case it is bleeding obvious that the Home Office either did not consider or (more likely) tried to bury the evidence that using Rwanda as an off shoring destination is high risk to the deported. Why do you wish to blame lawyers for pointing that out? It's their duty to point it out.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 18, 2022 11:19:06 GMT
But in law the HRA has precedence over the deportation rules. And in the current case it is bleeding obvious that the Home Office either did not consider or (more likely) tried to bury the evidence that using Rwanda as an off shoring destination is high risk to the deported. Why do you wish to blame lawyers for pointing that out? It's their duty to point it out. It is the duty of lawyers to represent the best interests of their clients, which is a major joke if anyone has gone through divorce proceedings. Lawyers have little interest in the law other than a means to make money and the HRA and all its attendant considerations is the money tree that keeps on giving and those bearing the cost are again the long suffering largely put upon and otherwise ignored British public.
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