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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 8:27:16 GMT
We all have the right to Protest Peacefully, which Police actually facilitate a right we should all hold dearly IMO. However, as the new Police Commissioner of the Met explained to the London Assembly today, basically they have to stay within the rules www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/12/just-stop-oil-protests.. Then I suggest it's time the rules were changed. They may have the right to protest but they have no right to prevent or delay the public going about their lawful business. People sometimes wait months for hospital appointments and business meetings and if these protestors cause them more delay and suffering the protestors should be heavily fined and force to pay compensation. I am fully aware they have prevented people getting to hospitals job interviews, work etc I live in London I was delayed driving back to London when some of these idiots blocked the M25, you advocated using Water Cannons on these protesters, you may wish to see middle aged and elderly men and women being hosed down, but I don't, many of the protesters are arrested over 300 in the last few day they are taken to Court some have been sent to prison. My wife's sister husband who has been fighting cancer for several was in a London hospital gravely to get to see him by Public Transport usually too an hour each way, it took her three hours each way, not down to Protesters blocking the roads and bridges, down the Public Transport Strike, they stope people getting to hospitals, work, etc would you advocate using Water Cannons on the Picket Lines, I think not |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 13, 2022 8:28:48 GMT
I agree and they do, but it is a fine line the Police have to tread as they have to justify arresting people if they don't the CPS will probably not charge them if there is little or no evidence of disorder and disruption, , I am not defending the actions of these people far from it, in the grand scheme of things Obstruction of the Highway is a relatively minor offence in itself The Police are arresting them, especially those that glue themselves to the road Police vans etc because they are wilfully obstruction the Highway as they cannot be moved on or removed quickly and easily, I am not defending the actions of these people far from it, they are a pain in the arse they are wasting Police time and the Courts time if they are charged at the end of the day, and we taxpayers are paying for it If Police went in hard straightway and nicked the lot, the far left and other extremists would be screaming their heads off and taking to the streets claiming the Police and the Government are attacking our right to protest. It's a dilema for the government and the police, we only had to see how the woke left created a bloody scene on shipping a few illegals to Rwanda. The whole frigging swamp needs draining from top to bottom but finding anyone with the balls to do that is yet on another level. I wonder how these eco terroists manage to travel back and forth to these protests? |
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Post by Morgan on Oct 13, 2022 9:00:32 GMT
Handyman asked me " would you advocate using Water Cannons on the Picket Lines, I think not." Well you think wrongly. Picket lines are usually held just outside the workplace to prevent people going in. But if they were interfering with medical or other emergency services you can paint them red white or blue for all I care.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 10:10:10 GMT
You are avoiding the blindingly obvious the Far Left extremists that lead the Unions have caused more disruption, cancelled hospitals appointments, operations Medical Staff unable to get to work, workers losing wages, damage to our economy, perhaps you don't know how many many thousands of people they effect every day they strike and the degree of pain anguish and suffering they have caused not just in London but right across the UK, far more than all the idiots who glue themselves to the road have done.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 13, 2022 10:18:50 GMT
We don’t need water cannons . We just need the coppers to move the lefties away and nick them if they don’t comply .
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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 10:24:18 GMT
I agree and they do, but it is a fine line the Police have to tread as they have to justify arresting people if they don't the CPS will probably not charge them if there is little or no evidence of disorder and disruption, , I am not defending the actions of these people far from it, in the grand scheme of things Obstruction of the Highway is a relatively minor offence in itself The Police are arresting them, especially those that glue themselves to the road Police vans etc because they are wilfully obstruction the Highway as they cannot be moved on or removed quickly and easily, I am not defending the actions of these people far from it, they are a pain in the arse they are wasting Police time and the Courts time if they are charged at the end of the day, and we taxpayers are paying for it If Police went in hard straightway and nicked the lot, the far left and other extremists would be screaming their heads off and taking to the streets claiming the Police and the Government are attacking our right to protest. It's a dilema for the government and the police, we only had to see how the woke left created a bloody scene on shipping a few illegals to Rwanda. The whole frigging swamp needs draining from top to bottom but finding anyone with the balls to do that is yet on another level. I wonder how these eco terroists manage to travel back and forth to these protests? It is an awkward situation for the Police there is sufficient Legislation in place that gives them the authority to make arrests but to do so in a fair manner and with as little fuss as possible, two people in Scotland that took matters into their own hands and dragged protesters to the ground during the Queens funeral have now been charged with assault, the Police already get enough stick as it is. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 10:24:41 GMT
We don’t need water cannons . We just need the coppers to move the lefties away and nick them if they don’t comply . They are |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 13, 2022 10:40:59 GMT
It's all very well arresting them but what do they get a slap othe wrist? Not exactly a deterent is it?.....The lack of action from the police caused this problem theys hould have been harsh on the idiots from day one... Just Stop Oil mob cause FURIOUS bust-up as motorists confront each other over how to get past zealots blocking busy London road during morning rush hour on their 13th consecutive day of protests Environmental activists from Just Stop Oil block roads around St George's Circus in Southwark this morning One man confronted a protester today, before another man shouted: 'Don't touch him, oi, leave him alone' The man continued: 'Let the police deal with it'. But the other man replied: 'Where's the f***ing police then?' Today is campaign group's 13th day in a row of protests that have already resulted in 300 arrests so far www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11310827/Just-Stop-Oil-protesters-block-South-London-roundabout.html |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 13, 2022 11:02:26 GMT
We don’t need water cannons . We just need the coppers to move the lefties away and nick them if they don’t comply . They are Not as much or as enthusiastically as they could ,it seems . |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 13, 2022 11:08:19 GMT
It's all very well arresting them but what do they get a slap othe wrist? Not exactly a deterent is it?.....The lack of action from the police caused this problem theys hould have been harsh on the idiots from day one... Just Stop Oil mob cause FURIOUS bust-up as motorists confront each other over how to get past zealots blocking busy London road during morning rush hour on their 13th consecutive day of protests Environmental activists from Just Stop Oil block roads around St George's Circus in Southwark this morning One man confronted a protester today, before another man shouted: 'Don't touch him, oi, leave him alone' The man continued: 'Let the police deal with it'. But the other man replied: 'Where's the f***ing police then?' Today is campaign group's 13th day in a row of protests that have already resulted in 300 arrests so far www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11310827/Just-Stop-Oil-protesters-block-South-London-roundabout.htmlThe ER mob got pulled off trains by some commuters in London when they climbed on one iirc . Afaik they haven’t done that again. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 18:54:18 GMT
It's all very well arresting them but what do they get a slap othe wrist? Not exactly a deterent is it?.....The lack of action from the police caused this problem theys hould have been harsh on the idiots from day one... Just Stop Oil mob cause FURIOUS bust-up as motorists confront each other over how to get past zealots blocking busy London road during morning rush hour on their 13th consecutive day of protests Environmental activists from Just Stop Oil block roads around St George's Circus in Southwark this morning One man confronted a protester today, before another man shouted: 'Don't touch him, oi, leave him alone' The man continued: 'Let the police deal with it'. But the other man replied: 'Where's the f***ing police then?' Today is campaign group's 13th day in a row of protests that have already resulted in 300 arrests so far www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11310827/Just-Stop-Oil-protesters-block-South-London-roundabout.htmlThere are more protests to come arresting them does not stop them coming back they don't care if they are arrested |
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Post by Steve on Oct 13, 2022 19:55:58 GMT
Then our sentencing is the problem. Doubling the term in jail for each successive conviction would be a good move.
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Post by tellitrednangle on Oct 14, 2022 0:35:04 GMT
You are avoiding the blindingly obvious the Far Left extremists that lead the Unions have caused more disruption, cancelled hospitals appointments, operations Medical Staff unable to get to work, workers losing wages, damage to our economy, perhaps you don't know how many many thousands of people they effect every day they strike and the degree of pain anguish and suffering they have caused not just in London but right across the UK, far more than all the idiots who glue themselves to the road have done. I find it difficult to understand how anything in the above quote justifies the unbalanced egos who deliberately block emergency vehicles and cars.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 14, 2022 7:08:21 GMT
Then our sentencing is the problem. Doubling the term in jail for each successive conviction would be a good move. That is a matter for the Courts to address and consider the Police have no say in what happens to them if they plead guilty or found guilty |
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Post by Morgan on Oct 14, 2022 7:11:14 GMT
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