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Post by sheepy on Dec 13, 2023 18:02:54 GMT
Maybe we should have support a twat week. Too kind. You've been like a mother to me, Jonks. LOL a bit mediocre!
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Post by sheepy on Dec 13, 2023 18:04:49 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 18:10:21 GMT
Are you trying to kill, Danny? He still hasn't heard about the Indian prime minister.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 18:13:27 GMT
Too kind. You've been like a mother to me, Jonks. LOL a bit mediocre! Thanks for the feedback. I'll do better.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 13, 2023 18:59:42 GMT
This is the UK's current list of designated or safe countries from which asylum claims will normally be disallowed ('certified'). All the current brouhaha is about adding Rwanda to this list.
Albania Bolivia Bosnia-Herzegovina Brazil Ecuador Gambia (Men only) Ghana (Men only) India Kenya (Men only) Kosovo Liberia (Men only) Macedonia Malawi (Men only) Mali (Men only) Mauritius Moldova Mongolia Montenegro Nigeria (Men only) Peru Serbia Sierra Leone (Men only) South Africa South Korea Ukraine
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:40:55 GMT
I'm sure you can calculate the numbers Dan. You probably already have. Non whites last year, non whites this year type sum. Are you stupid? What did I just say?
The most reliable data available is the annual school census which I have already used and published here.
I was just joshing Dan. But as you say you have the school census and I'm sure you've used them to do calculations that Bentley would love.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:44:13 GMT
Ukrainians were already in a safe country: Poland. If you can’t or won’t accept that there is a difference then there is no point in continuing. 1Refugees processed in Poland and officially entering the UK . 2Migrants crossing Europe and entering the UK via illegal trafficker without being processed . The only real difference is that one group meet with your approval.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:49:10 GMT
A pardon means a crime was still committed - some might say a pardon would be logically impossible without a crime. In your rampant enthusiasm to destroy the UK people, you keep over-stretching slightly. Well done, Mags. Duh! Yes, there would be no point in the Refugee Convention's imposing an obligation to confer a pardon if it wasn't envisaged that refugees would commit crimes. The Refugee Convention absolutely recognises that refugees will commit crimes. It might even be argued that the Refugee Convention encourages crime. That's the Refugee Convention for you! It is what all the signatories signed up to. Don't like it? Then, agitate to leave it. As things stand, the UK is required by international law to confer a pardon on certain people who have broken its laws. And with good reason. If a woman smashes your window to get help when being attacked she has committed a crime, but who would want a prosecution? The same principle applies to the Refugee convention.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:51:18 GMT
They entered by consent of the UK. As do those who enter from France, you clown! When the UK signed the Refugee Convention, the UK agreed to that. How can you be even more stupid day in day out?. The Ukrainians were not allowed to set foot in the Country without a valid Visa. If you are now suggesting that we treat the Asylum seekers from France in the same way then I would be up for that - they stay in France until their claim has been assessed and if approved given a Visa to enter the UK. Of course I know that is not what you are suggesting as you are too stupid to understand what is going on in the world. Talking of stupid, why don't you just look up the law. Might save yourself days of stupidity.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 19:52:58 GMT
If you can’t or won’t accept that there is a difference then there is no point in continuing. 1Refugees processed in Poland and officially entering the UK . 2Migrants crossing Europe and entering the UK via illegal trafficker without being processed . The only real difference is that one group meet with your approval. No it isn’t but I didn’t expect any more from a serial virtue signaller .
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:53:02 GMT
International law does not require the UK to confer a pardon on the criminal traffickers; only those who employ their services to illegally enter the UK (subject to additional criteria). So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . You could apply for asylum under the refugee convention. You would need to show you faced torture or death in the UK. Perhaps you are?
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 19:53:36 GMT
Well done, Mags. Duh! Yes, there would be no point in the Refugee Convention's imposing an obligation to confer a pardon if it wasn't envisaged that refugees would commit crimes. The Refugee Convention absolutely recognises that refugees will commit crimes. It might even be argued that the Refugee Convention encourages crime. That's the Refugee Convention for you! It is what all the signatories signed up to. Don't like it? Then, agitate to leave it. As things stand, the UK is required by international law to confer a pardon on certain people who have broken its laws. And with good reason. If a woman smashes your window to get help when being attacked she has committed a crime, but who would want a prosecution? The same principle applies to the Refugee convention. No it doesn’t.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 13, 2023 19:55:39 GMT
Probably not, if the intention is to claim asylum. All EU states (plus the UK) have clauses in their domestic asylum regulations to the effect that claims from nationals of states considered to be as safe as them are deemed to be inadmissible. So if you rocked up on a French beach in your dinghy the gendarmes would likely just give you a good going over before bundling you straight back on the next ferry.
The UK's current inadmissibility regulations (s80a of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002) is being upgraded as we speak to add other ultra-safe countries something a lot of lefties are in a right old lather about.
So darling might be wrong ? Its a terrifying thought. If those arriving by boat are French citizens, I somehow doubt it. I sense Dan is playing you.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 19:56:11 GMT
So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . You could apply for asylum under the refugee convention. You would need to show you faced torture or death in the UK. Perhaps you are? So all the migrants in hotels showed that they faced torture or death in France after they stepped off the dinghy , did they ? 🙄
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 19:56:59 GMT
So darling might be wrong ? Its a terrifying thought. If those arriving by boat are French citizens, I somehow doubt it. I sense Dan is playing you. I sense you have no idea what you are talking about .
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