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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 12, 2023 10:03:08 GMT
So what exactly is it that you are missing about the EU?
How has it personally effected your life?
How has it impacted on the UK?
What is it we are all missing>?
Attempting to spin my post around in an attempt to put me on the spot is just your way of avoiding the reality of my post. LOL.....
Say no more.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 12, 2023 11:27:28 GMT
The UK, well not all of it, 'Great Britain' left the EU in 2020. Sadly, with the connivance of weak pro EU politicians, the EU are hanging onto Northern Ireland. But make no mistake, Great Britain regained her sovereignty and independence on 31 Jan 2020. Yes the UK no longer has to follow UN legal requirements, but Brexit will not be complete until the Northern Irish problem is resolved. Boris NEVER had an answer to that problem he just muddled his way along keeping his fingers crossed. That there would be a problem around NI membership of the EU was recognised BEFORE the referendum. The EU will ensure the Northern Ireland problem is never resolved, it is not in the EU's interest to resolve it. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 12, 2023 11:42:02 GMT
I'm not ignoring anything - the whole pointy of taking the entire timeline from the referendum to the present day is that it balances out up's and down's in particular years. Do you think you get more accurate information by picking specific years rather than looking at the whole? Your post is a desperate attempt to ignore information that you don't like. I got accurate information of the sad failure that existed in 2021. Are you suggesting that the mess in 2021 happened overnight or do you think that it was the result of failure in the previous years? why are you ignoring the economic growth that took place in the years you didn't pick? Do you feel that ignoring data makes you better informed? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 12, 2023 17:15:29 GMT
Yes the UK no longer has to follow UN legal requirements, but Brexit will not be complete until the Northern Irish problem is resolved. Boris NEVER had an answer to that problem he just muddled his way along keeping his fingers crossed. That there would be a problem around NI membership of the EU was recognised BEFORE the referendum. The EU will ensure the Northern Ireland problem is never resolved, it is not in the EU's interest to resolve it. It is not in the EUs interest to damage itself because of a problem caused by the UKs stupidity. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 12, 2023 17:17:41 GMT
Your post is a desperate attempt to ignore information that you don't like. I got accurate information of the sad failure that existed in 2021. Are you suggesting that the mess in 2021 happened overnight or do you think that it was the result of failure in the previous years? why are you ignoring the economic growth that took place in the years you didn't pick? Do you feel that ignoring data makes you better informed? Why are you ignoring where and or why the UK GDP ended up as badly as it did in 2021?? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 12, 2023 17:20:15 GMT
The EU will ensure the Northern Ireland problem is never resolved, it is not in the EU's interest to resolve it. It is not in the EUs interest to damage itself because of a problem caused by the UKs stupidity. I am not in the least surprised that you consider the fundamental right of people to choose whether they live in an independent and sovereign country, to be stupid. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 12, 2023 17:23:37 GMT
It is not in the EUs interest to damage itself because of a problem caused by the UKs stupidity. I am not in the least surprised that you consider the fundamental right of people to choose whether they live in an independent and sovereign country, to be stupid. you always know that if see2 disagrees with you that you're on the right track. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 12, 2023 17:59:57 GMT
why are you ignoring the economic growth that took place in the years you didn't pick? Do you feel that ignoring data makes you better informed? Why are you ignoring where and or why the UK GDP ended up as badly as it did in 2021?? Covid - who is arguing otherwise?. Do you accept that since the referendum the UK has seen higher total GDP growth than France or Germany? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 12, 2023 20:02:16 GMT
It is not in the EUs interest to damage itself because of a problem caused by the UKs stupidity. I am not in the least surprised that you consider the fundamental right of people to choose whether they live in an independent and sovereign country, to be stupid. I don't, and that is not what I said. I commented on the unthinking way they did it. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 12, 2023 20:08:03 GMT
Why are you ignoring where and or why the UK GDP ended up as badly as it did in 2021?? Covid - who is arguing otherwise?. Do you accept that since the referendum the UK has seen higher total GDP growth than France or Germany? France Germany and Italy also had Covid, but all three were better placed than the UK by 2021. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 12, 2023 20:11:11 GMT
I am not in the least surprised that you consider the fundamental right of people to choose whether they live in an independent and sovereign country, to be stupid. you always know that if see2 disagrees with you that you're on the right track. You keep on proving just how easily misled your are. I guess that's why you are a righty like RR. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 12, 2023 20:24:32 GMT
you always know that if see2 disagrees with you that you're on the right track. You keep on proving just how easily misled your are. I guess that's why you are a righty like RR. You mean sensible? Yes indeed, I agree.  |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 12, 2023 22:36:44 GMT
Covid - who is arguing otherwise?. Do you accept that since the referendum the UK has seen higher total GDP growth than France or Germany? France Germany and Italy also had Covid, but all three were better placed than the UK by 2021. that did not answer my question - care to try again? |
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 14, 2023 8:33:43 GMT
This thread is all over the place.
The size of business done through a stock exchange has precisely zero to do with the standard of living enjoyed by a population other than the tax paid to that government.
It also has zero to do with the growth of a country, since any business big enough to raise money via stock markets may and often do have nothing to offer that country. They dont have to have any connection with where the stock market is located.
I see nothing in this spurious discussion that can be used to show the success of the British economy and certainly nothing to do with some imagined success of Brexit.
All meaningful indications are to the contrary.
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Post by om15 on Dec 14, 2023 10:08:36 GMT
Allow me, article in the newspaper today, this may help with your confusion.
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