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Post by sheepy on Dec 9, 2023 8:31:12 GMT
There seems to a vague notion afoot that there is a conspiracy working to bring about the demise of the English people. There's no such thing, at least not any more, for the very simple reason that there doesn't need to be one with the system working perfectly well on autopilot. What we have today is a good old-fashioned Kulturkampf between two implacably opposed and mutually antagonistic Weltanschauungen (don't worry our resident Wittgenstein authority will be along shortly to translate): ethno-nationalism and universalism. Universalists consider a resurgent English nationalism the most serious threat to their vision of a coffee-coloured multicultural Utopia in which persons of every colour and gender will be able to throw off their shackles and free themselves from the clammy grip of their oppressors. They understand that an ersatz Britishness is an indispensable safety feature for those of foreign extraction, providing an umbrella coverage for those unable to legitimately lay claim on an Englishness based on a deeply-rooted ancestral connection to the land. The best way, in their view, to counter the threat is to denigrate and deprecate Englishness at every opportunity and to strenuously deny any linkage between people and place. While at the same time, of course, insisting that an English identity is such a fungible and portable commodity that it can be adopted by anyone and everyone, regardless of provenance or ancestry, and simply for the asking. The theory being that if you make something cheap enough it soon becomes of little value. But it's not a conspiracy, it's in their DNA. Whatever the argument was/is was lost long ago Dan. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 9, 2023 8:36:36 GMT
By the way, if you haven't been arguing that genocide is occurring, what exactly have you been arguing? Is a slow demise of an ethnic group encouraged by social pressure a form of genocide ? Is a declining birth rate among the indegenous population due to societal pressure? In my personal experience there is much more societal pressure on people to have kids than not. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 8:42:23 GMT
Who has said that English identity can be adopted by anyone and everyone? I've not seen anyone on this thread say any such thing.
If David Lammy can do it anyone can.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 8:44:04 GMT
Are you suggesting we should just lie back, keep quiet and enjoy it then sheepy?
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 9, 2023 8:46:06 GMT
Who has said that English identity can be adopted by anyone and everyone? I've not seen anyone on this thread say any such thing.
If David Lammy can do it anyone can.
No they can't. He was born and raised in England, that criteria rules out most of the world's population. Perhaps the chip on your shoulder prevented you from seeing it. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 9, 2023 8:48:27 GMT
Just stating a fact, you cannot change the past, only the future, which it seems is already mapped out.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 8:54:19 GMT
If David Lammy can do it anyone can.
No they can't. He was born and raised in England, that criteria rules out most of the world's population. Perhaps the chip on your shoulder prevented you from seeing it. What was that old saying about a dog born in a stable does not become a horse?
Besides which, the way things are going quite soon there'll be more of the world's population in England than ancestral natives.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 8:55:45 GMT
Just stating a fact, you cannot change the past, only the future, which it seems is already mapped out. So we may as well just wave the white flag, roll over and die eh. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 9, 2023 9:01:27 GMT
Just stating a fact, you cannot change the past, only the future, which it seems is already mapped out. So we may as well just wave the white flag, roll over and die eh. Eventually you will see that is the longterm plan. I tend to listen and learn from others anyone with that ability can see from the education system onwards there is no going back. The globalists however mad their plans might be have won the day on this one, there might be a few stirrings but they will soon move your mind elsewhere, create confusion and move on with it. It might well sound like some conspiracy theory but the facts behind it now back it up. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 9, 2023 9:11:21 GMT
No they can't. He was born and raised in England, that criteria rules out most of the world's population. Perhaps the chip on your shoulder prevented you from seeing it. What was that old saying about a dog born in a stable does not become a horse?
Besides which, the way things are going quite soon there'll be more of the world's population in England than ancestral natives.
Ah that old chestnut. Dogs and horses are different species, nationality is a human concept. Doesn't change the fact that your claim that "anybody and everybody" could be English is utterly wrong. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 9, 2023 9:11:22 GMT
No they can't. He was born and raised in England, that criteria rules out most of the world's population. Perhaps the chip on your shoulder prevented you from seeing it. What was that old saying about a dog born in a stable does not become a horse?
Besides which, the way things are going quite soon there'll be more of the world's population in England than ancestral natives.
The fact that there are some millions of people around the world carrying English DNA is likely to have as much to do with any diminishing of English DNA in England, as immigration. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 9:13:49 GMT
So we may as well just wave the white flag, roll over and die eh. Eventually you will see that is the longterm plan. I tend to listen and learn from others anyone with that ability can see from the education system onwards there is no going back. The globalists however mad their plans might be have won the day on this one, there might be a few stirrings but they will soon move your mind elsewhere, create confusion and move on with it. It might well sound like some conspiracy theory but the facts behind it now back it up. Of course the education system is fucked and has been since the sixties. However a significant number of those passing through that conditioning process are able to transcend the experience and develop a capability for independent thought. The current problem is that they are isolated and it is easy for the authorities to pick them off when they congregate into small groups. In the meantime we do what we can, here and elsewhere. The very worst thing is to go all defeatist about it. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 9:14:57 GMT
What was that old saying about a dog born in a stable does not become a horse?
Besides which, the way things are going quite soon there'll be more of the world's population in England than ancestral natives.
The fact that there are some millions of people around the world carrying English DNA is likely to have as much to do with any diminishing of English DNA in England, as immigration. What is 'English DNA'? |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 9, 2023 9:15:58 GMT
Eventually you will see that is the longterm plan. I tend to listen and learn from others anyone with that ability can see from the education system onwards there is no going back. The globalists however mad their plans might be have won the day on this one, there might be a few stirrings but they will soon move your mind elsewhere, create confusion and move on with it. It might well sound like some conspiracy theory but the facts behind it now back it up. Of course the education system is fucked and has been since the sixties. However a significant number of those passing through that conditioning process are able to transcend the experience and develop a capability for independent thought. The current problem is that they are isolated and it is easy for the authorities to pick them off when they congregate into small groups. In the meantime we do what we can, here and elsewhere. The very worst thing is to go all defeatist about it. I am not a defeatist just a realist. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 9, 2023 9:20:21 GMT
What was that old saying about a dog born in a stable does not become a horse?
Besides which, the way things are going quite soon there'll be more of the world's population in England than ancestral natives.
Ah that old chestnut. Dogs and horses are different species, nationality is a human concept. Doesn't change the fact that your claim that "anybody and everybody" could be English is utterly wrong. Lammy is of course just one claimant, there are many others with even less of a case.
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