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Post by Bentley on Dec 8, 2023 19:51:01 GMT
You don’t know. You are claiming my premise cannot be correct because I am not educated . The implication is that yours can because you are . You don’t even understand your own fallacies Your premise is that concepts cannot vary from society to society. Your premise is that anyone who does not share your concept is delusional. I'm perfectly entitled to reach the conclusion that you are uneducated. Wrong again . My premise is that your premise is refuted by my example . Anyone who believes that a biological man can be defined as a woman is deluded . That doesn’t mean I’m uneducated .That means what you have been taught is as useless as knowing how many angels can dance on a pinhead . |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 19:51:52 GMT
Or maybe you just need to take the chip off of your shoulder and stop seeing racism in everything? The FACT that you ignore the evidence and post dismissive one-liners demonstrates another fact, that this forum isn't worth having a serious discussion on. Still, if you have to troll the thread this much then it's clear to me that you're afraid of a resurgence.
I'm happy to have a serious debate when you produce some credible evidence. I'm white, so is my mum, my siblings, nieces and nephews, my kids are half white. If I thought there was the slightest chance that what you're saying is true if course I'd pay attention. I just don't think that immigration (Much of which in recent years has been from white majority countries), equality legislation or mixed race kids represents proof. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 19:52:06 GMT
Your premise is that concepts cannot vary from society to society. Your premise is that anyone who does not share your concept is delusional. I'm perfectly entitled to reach the conclusion that you are uneducated. Wrong again . My premise is that your premise is refuted by my example . Anyone who believes that a biological man can be defined as a woman is deluded . That doesn’t mean I’m uneducated .That means what you have been taught is as useless as knowing how many angels can dance on a pinhead . No, it simply means you're uneducated. You don't appear to be able to distinguish concepts from facts, for a start. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 19:53:43 GMT
So family members who encouraged me and my kids mum to have kids because they thought we'd make great parents were actually committing genocide? Do you think there should be racial quotas for TV adverts? Who knows, I am not saying that, I am saying the encouragement is in the laws, the circumstances and information that is produced. We are supposed to have TV that is representative of the society it serves, that is the loud call of all who run TV. It patently is not as it depicts a society that is largely imaginary in terms of the ethnic mix. Why is that? What laws? So you want TV adverts to be representative of the ethnic makeup of the country? Surely ethnic quotas are the only way to do this? And what about professions where ethnic minorities are under represented, presumably you want these corrected too? |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 19:53:48 GMT
Well that shows the laws are directed to ensure opposition will not succeed. They are not a product of genocide they may be an unwilling part of a genocidal process. If a plan is to eradicate one ethnic group it must result in the formation of another ethnic group. It is not nice to be part of possible Eugenics programme, and many people from the 20s and 30s all over the world were part of such programmes, most especially selective breeding in Germany. Do we blame those children, or do we just acknowledge it. Did you choose to get married and have children for political or sociological reasons? I chose, not too wisely as it transpired. However if the circumstances are created whereby choice is widened to include many different groups as a matter of policy that is encouragement to find a partner of a different race. That is not to say the mixed race families are wrong, just as it was not wrong for Aryan couples to marry in Germany and have children, but if policy is to encourage that outcome then that is wrong as we all agree it was in Germany. Why should a similar policy, on a much lower key and with different ethnic groups not also be wrong in teh UK? |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 8, 2023 19:54:23 GMT
Your premise is that concepts cannot vary from society to society. Your premise is that anyone who does not share your concept is delusional. I'm perfectly entitled to reach the conclusion that you are uneducated. Wrong again . My premise is that your premise is refuted by my example . Anyone who believes that a biological man can be defined as a woman is deluded . That doesn’t mean I’m uneducated .That means what you have been taught is as useless as knowing how many angels can dance on a pinhead . Not really, to change the future you need to prove the past was a wrong direction. Which is failing rather badly. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 19:54:56 GMT
Did you choose to get married and have children for political or sociological reasons? I chose, not too wisely as it transpired. However if the circumstances are created whereby choice is widened to include many different groups as a matter of policy that is encouragement to find a partner of a different race. That is not to say the mixed race families are wrong, just as it was not wrong for Aryan couples to marry in Germany and have children, but if policy is to encourage that outcome then that is wrong as we all agree it was in Germany. Why should a similar policy, on a much lower key and with different ethnic groups not also be wrong in teh UK? What policy? Who formed this policy? And when? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 8, 2023 19:55:10 GMT
You don’t seem to be capable of grasping this , do you . Genocide ..intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods I’ll let you have a little think … What other methods? Two people falling in love and having a child? That's not genocide. What 'other methods' do you have in mind? Let’s leave out the romantic love stories . Any intentional process that leads to destroying an ethnic group . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 19:56:40 GMT
What other methods? Two people falling in love and having a child? That's not genocide. What 'other methods' do you have in mind? Let’s leave out the romantic love stories . Any intentional process that leads to destroying an ethnic group . Do you know of a couple who had children with the intention of wiping out an ethnic group? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2023 19:57:14 GMT
The FACT that you ignore the evidence and post dismissive one-liners demonstrates another fact, that this forum isn't worth having a serious discussion on. Still, if you have to troll the thread this much then it's clear to me that you're afraid of a resurgence.
I'm happy to have a serious debate when you produce some credible evidence. I'm white, so is my mum, my siblings, nieces and nephews, my kids are half white. If I thought there was the slightest chance that what you're saying is true if course I'd pay attention. I just don't think that immigration (Much of which in recent years has been from white majority countries), equality legislation or mixed race kids represents proof. Why would I waste any more time on somebody who dismisses the evidence and only talks about himself and other irrelevant nonsense? I don't care about you. You are not my concern. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 19:58:11 GMT
I'm happy to have a serious debate when you produce some credible evidence. I'm white, so is my mum, my siblings, nieces and nephews, my kids are half white. If I thought there was the slightest chance that what you're saying is true if course I'd pay attention. I just don't think that immigration (Much of which in recent years has been from white majority countries), equality legislation or mixed race kids represents proof. Why would I waste any more time on somebody who dismisses the evidence and only talks about himself and other irrelevant nonsense? I don't care about you. You are not my concern. Where's your evidence? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 8, 2023 19:58:19 GMT
Wrong again . My premise is that your premise is refuted by my example . Anyone who believes that a biological man can be defined as a woman is deluded . That doesn’t mean I’m uneducated .That means what you have been taught is as useless as knowing how many angels can dance on a pinhead . No, it simply means you're uneducated. You don't appear to be able to distinguish concepts from facts, for a start. No it means that my example refutes your delusional claim. You have no rebuttal so you use a fallacy . |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 19:59:27 GMT
Who knows, I am not saying that, I am saying the encouragement is in the laws, the circumstances and information that is produced. We are supposed to have TV that is representative of the society it serves, that is the loud call of all who run TV. It patently is not as it depicts a society that is largely imaginary in terms of the ethnic mix. Why is that? What laws? So you want TV adverts to be representative of the ethnic makeup of the country? Surely ethnic quotas are the only way to do this? And what about professions where ethnic minorities are under represented, presumably you want these corrected too? In law they are corrected where under representation occurs and the law used is positive action which actively discriminates against the English. I care not what adverts are but depicting a society regularly that does not exist is some form of propaganda. It is strange that many of the left shout and scream where under representation of minorities occurs but are not at all concerned where significant over representation occurs. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 8, 2023 20:00:05 GMT
Let’s leave out the romantic love stories . Any intentional process that leads to destroying an ethnic group . Do you know of a couple who had children with the intention of wiping out an ethnic group? Do you know the difference between a concept and facts ? lol |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 20:00:33 GMT
No, it simply means you're uneducated. You don't appear to be able to distinguish concepts from facts, for a start. No it means that my example refutes your delusional claim. You have no rebuttal so you use a fallacy . Explain to us what you believe the fallacy I used is? I can only have used an appeal to authority if I used Wittgenstein's name without pointing to facts that support his claim. So, where was this supposed appeal to authority? |
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