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Post by jonksy on Dec 1, 2023 1:57:01 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Dec 1, 2023 6:47:46 GMT
'Utter shambles': Tory MP agrees with damning assessment of 17,000 missing migrants.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 3, 2023 8:09:49 GMT
another destitute asylum seeker fleeing oppression...
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 3, 2023 8:42:35 GMT
Not one of Wally's mates is it?
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 3, 2023 9:02:46 GMT
Z*** was a student, mechanic and lay pastor who survived the genocide in Rwanda. His father, brother and sister didn't. He fled - in just the clothes he was wearing - to Uganda, from which he was moved to a UN refugee camp in DRC, where he spent 3 years, and applied for resettlement schemes in either France or Belgium (French was his second language). Eventually the UNHCR arranged asylum in Britain This speaks volumes..... Well hang on a moment The key question unanswered is WHEN WAS THIS In my much younger days before nightly invasions by rubber boat became a thing, it was UN policy to cater for refugees from conflict in geographical locations not too distant from whatever was going on, on the principle that once the conflict was resolved many coukd RETURN Britain was - and if i am not mistaken still IS one of MANY signatory countries to an agreement to accept and give permanent refuge to persons whom the UNHCR declare cannot return to the place from which they were displaced, and i for one take a certain pride in that. But i do not in any way shape or form extend that to anyone standing in a beach in an EU country trying to get the hell out of it to come here. If they’re so pissed at being an EU citizen they should go vote to leave the EU like we did.
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 3, 2023 9:52:57 GMT
Anyone undocumented should be failed and kicked out, no ifs, no buts ...... OUT. Would that apply to this example..? Z*** was a student, mechanic and lay pastor who survived the genocide in Rwanda. His father, brother and sister didn't. He fled - in just the clothes he was wearing - to Uganda, from which he was moved to a UN refugee camp in DRC, where he spent 3 years, and applied for resettlement schemes in either France or Belgium (French was his second language). Eventually the UNHCR arranged asylum in Britain (amusingly - through some office snafu - he spent his first few weeks believing he was living in Burton, rather than Derby..). He's now a UK citizen. Married to a Derbyshire gal, with a family, and busy (beyond his day job). Everything from working as a volunteer translator for the police and NHS, to helping run a church food bank, organising food deliveries to vulnerable people during Covid, being a school governor and volunteer classroom assistant, and speaking regularly at the National Holocaust Centre in Newark - Z*** puts most of us to shame. A few years ago he was honoured by the Queen (BEM) - and more recently, he was even a guest at the Coronation which, whatever I may think of such things, has to serve as a pretty goldplated signal that such a person is seen as an asset to the nation. "No ifs, no buts.." Really? Ah**** was recruited by ISIS when he was 8 yrs old, he was taught how to enact genocide against the "Kafir". He trained and maimed in Iraq until his later teenage years. As a cell member he was shipped off to some far flung European country called Britain in order to one day carry out Allah's work. Any identification documents he had he burned or threw in the sea. He was told that he would be able to claim asylum as a young, single, hairy male, so long as he was able to tell a story that he had been torn apart from his family due to war and persecution in the middle-east; then he would be granted asylum in Britain. Eventually the UNCHCR arranged asylum in Britain (amusingly - through some office cock-up - he spent his first few weeks believing he was living in Lincoln, rather than Luton). He became a UK citizen and married a Pakistani girl from Berry Park. He's very busy helping out with the local Wahabi mosque listening to hate mongers preaching about the sins of the evil West in which he resides. He volunteers for Muslim street patrols in Luton and Walthamstow. He believes queers should be thrown off the rooftops of buildings, and white girls wearing short skirts are easy meat. He gleefully desecrates British war memorials in his spare time, or when he's part of "peaceful protests," and pisses on the graves of British soldiers. He also works for a "charity" that provides advertisement and funding for Sharia law and his Wahabi mosque. He works tirelessly against the society who granted him asylum. He would put many British people to shame in demonstrating the emotional energy he displays towards his religion and people. He won't be granted a BEM by the King, his reward is much greater than that, he's waiting for a very special phone call to order him to carry out the work of Allah. He will follow in the footsteps of those who slaughtered Lee Rigby, the 7/7 underground bombing and the Manchester bombing, and he will. The moment Allah orders him to blow himself up into thousands of pieces taking hundreds of innocent lives with him. Let all in and sundry, really?
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Post by walterpaisley on Dec 3, 2023 10:24:13 GMT
Let all in and sundry, really? I'll accept your implied criticism, so long as you can show me where I've EVER said "let in all and sundry".
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 3, 2023 10:29:16 GMT
Let all in and sundry, really? I'll accept your implied criticism, so long as you can show me where I've EVER said "let in all and sundry". Explain how you would vet between Z*** and Ah****? A government's first priority is to the security of its people, no ifs no buts.
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Post by walterpaisley on Dec 3, 2023 11:19:24 GMT
Explain how you would vet between Z*** and Ah****? A government's first priority is to the security of its people, no ifs no buts. I assume that Ah**** is a fictional character, but given that, we have security services here who keep a pretty close eye on religious radicals and their institutions, and would come down pretty hard (as seen in Derby a few years back) on anyone calling for the murder of other groups. It's made explicit to any Asylum Seeker that they abide by the law of the land. The vast majority do.
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