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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 15:59:36 GMT
Zanygame said: So if we magically transported all the immigrants back 'home'. Natural born Brits would step up their birth rate?There has been surprisingly little research done into the effect of mass immigration on native birthrates but it would not be surprising to learn that it has a depressant effect. Suffice to say there is a very strong correlation between the two. ZG: Or are you worried about the number of White Brits breeding with immigrants and disappearing into a new race? Current 10% of couples are mixed race. Mixed race or mixed ethnicity? There is a significant difference as SP has just explained.
As far as mixed race marriages are concerned, the last figures I saw indicated that just 1% of white British females were in such a relationship and less than 2% of white British males.
I'd say the correlation is that migration heads towards wealth and wealth leads to lower birth rates. On mixed race marriages according to the ONS its about 7% As far as ethnicity is concerned I would see it as a bar to mixed marriage if the person defines themselves by ethnicity. Not many do. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 28, 2023 16:03:17 GMT
How's it go. If you can't qualify as a chippy then try plastering, if you're no good at that lay bricks, if you can't even do that at least you can paint.  I can almost hear the sparks laughing 😆 Yep laughing at the Chippies who were sucked in by a snotty nosed little Swedish bint. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 16:06:34 GMT
They would have bred willingly. What's the down side to the new strain ...and there it is at the end of the winding cul de sac. "So long as I don't engage in murder, what is wrong with erasing my specially targeted group with social engineering?"The social engineering is refusing to allow them to apply the normally allowable defense / reproduction mechanisms (ie territory etc) that would easily prevent them being wiped out / replaced. This is the bit where the mask of impartiality starts to slip significantly. You have to make a special rule to get the result you want. On a cosmic scale, nothing is wrong with it..but then, on a cosmic scale there is nothing 'wrong' with similarly wiping out humanity entirely by forbidding various human defence / reproduction mechanisms and allowing dolphin hybrids to take over. People don't want it though. Good luck killing people with social engineering. But then by killing people you mean having funny coloured children. Can't somehow imagine you being over concerned if Scotland lost its red hair through marrying English folk. Its genocide, the purity of the Scotsman is gone forever. Lol. If humans starting willingly mating with dolphins there would be nothing wrong with the resulting Dolphmen. (Other than the ridiculousness of your argument of course) |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 16:08:51 GMT
How's it go. If you can't qualify as a chippy then try plastering, if you're no good at that lay bricks, if you can't even do that at least you can paint. And earn 10 times more than chippies. You got me there.  |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 16:11:32 GMT
I can almost hear the sparks laughing 😆 Yep laughing at the Chippies who were sucked in by a snotty nosed little Swedish bint. There's a lot of them, but that goes with the extra intelligence needed to be a chippy. 🤣 |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 28, 2023 16:23:30 GMT
Yep laughing at the Chippies who were sucked in by a snotty nosed little Swedish bint. There's a lot of them, but that goes with the extra intelligence needed to be a chippy. 🤣Half the Chippies I know struggle with a fucking tape measure. So stop your usual tactic of diverting the thread |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 16:32:43 GMT
There's a lot of them, but that goes with the extra intelligence needed to be a chippy. 🤣Half the Chippies I know struggle with a fucking tape measure. So stop your usual tactic of diverting the thread Brickies don't know what a tape measure is, they use string. I'll let you get back to your racism and stereotyping now. 😁Big grin. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 28, 2023 16:37:28 GMT
Half the Chippies I know struggle with a fucking tape measure. So stop your usual tactic of diverting the thread Brickies don't know what a tape measure is, they use string. I'll let you get back to your racism and stereotyping now. 😁Big grin.Well those who lose laugh and post silly little emoji's. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 16:55:32 GMT
Brickies don't know what a tape measure is, they use string. I'll let you get back to your racism and stereotyping now. 😁Big grin.Well those who lose laugh and post silly little emoji's. If it helps you to think that. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 28, 2023 20:10:59 GMT
...and there it is at the end of the winding cul de sac. "So long as I don't engage in murder, what is wrong with erasing my specially targeted group with social engineering?"The social engineering is refusing to allow them to apply the normally allowable defense / reproduction mechanisms (ie territory etc) that would easily prevent them being wiped out / replaced. This is the bit where the mask of impartiality starts to slip significantly. You have to make a special rule to get the result you want. On a cosmic scale, nothing is wrong with it..but then, on a cosmic scale there is nothing 'wrong' with similarly wiping out humanity entirely by forbidding various human defence / reproduction mechanisms and allowing dolphin hybrids to take over. People don't want it though. Can't somehow imagine you being over concerned if Scotland lost its red hair through marrying English folk. Its genocide, the purity of the Scotsman is gone forever. Lol. If humans starting willingly mating with dolphins there would be nothing wrong with the resulting Dolphmen. (Other than the ridiculousness of your argument of course) This is essentially the same earlier presented strawman again. If the Scottish were in particular disallowed from, or told it was immoral to use, the usual procedures (ie territorial exclusivity etc) to pass Scotland exclusively (or almost exclusively) to their own children, then i would hazard you may be ethnically targeting the Scottish. A lot of this is situational. If nobody outside is particular interested in living in Scotland, the issue doesn't arise. A constant count of 1 Englishman per 1000 Scots is just a minor cultural irritation, a giant deluge of ever rising English immigration would be an existential threat. The Scots have a right for their inheritance to go to their children and for their culture to remain until it is overcome in a situation in which they are actually allowed to fight back. For some reason you seem to want certain people's or cultures erased - and you are pretty fixed about it. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 28, 2023 22:45:25 GMT
...and there it is at the end of the winding cul de sac. "So long as I don't engage in murder, what is wrong with erasing my specially targeted group with social engineering?"The social engineering is refusing to allow them to apply the normally allowable defense / reproduction mechanisms (ie territory etc) that would easily prevent them being wiped out / replaced. This is the bit where the mask of impartiality starts to slip significantly. You have to make a special rule to get the result you want. On a cosmic scale, nothing is wrong with it..but then, on a cosmic scale there is nothing 'wrong' with similarly wiping out humanity entirely by forbidding various human defence / reproduction mechanisms and allowing dolphin hybrids to take over. People don't want it though. Good luck killing people with social engineering. But then by killing people you mean having funny coloured children. Can't somehow imagine you being over concerned if Scotland lost its red hair through marrying English folk. Its genocide, the purity of the Scotsman is gone forever. Lol. If humans starting willingly mating with dolphins there would be nothing wrong with the resulting Dolphmen. (Other than the ridiculousness of your argument of course) You do not have to kill people as one definition is "deliberately inflicted conditions “calculated to bring about its...destruction,” One of the conditions is enforcing upon a group within their native area large scale immigration and creating laws and circumstances that prevent opposition to this. If the Scots were subject by any group to large scale English immigration and prevented by law to object or discriminate in their own favour as well as enduring laws that forced them to include the English at all levels of state and government then there would be a bundle of Scots who would object to that as it would lead to their ethnic demise. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 28, 2023 22:49:47 GMT
Good luck killing people with social engineering. But then by killing people you mean having funny coloured children. Can't somehow imagine you being over concerned if Scotland lost its red hair through marrying English folk. Its genocide, the purity of the Scotsman is gone forever. Lol. If humans starting willingly mating with dolphins there would be nothing wrong with the resulting Dolphmen. (Other than the ridiculousness of your argument of course) You do not have to kill people as one definition is "deliberately inflicted conditions “calculated to bring about its...destruction,” One of the conditions is enforcing upon a group within their native area large scale immigration and creating laws and circumstances that prevent opposition to this. If the Scots were subject by any group to large scale English immigration and prevented by law to object or discriminate in their own favour as well as enduring laws that forced them to include the English at all levels of state and government then there would be a bundle of Scots who would object to that as it would lead to their ethnic demise. The problem with answering other peoples posts is you lose the nuances. Orac was claiming its genocide, a ridiculous exaggeration. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 29, 2023 0:10:07 GMT
You do not have to kill people as one definition is "deliberately inflicted conditions “calculated to bring about its...destruction,” One of the conditions is enforcing upon a group within their native area large scale immigration and creating laws and circumstances that prevent opposition to this. If the Scots were subject by any group to large scale English immigration and prevented by law to object or discriminate in their own favour as well as enduring laws that forced them to include the English at all levels of state and government then there would be a bundle of Scots who would object to that as it would lead to their ethnic demise. The problem with answering other peoples posts is you lose the nuances. Orac was claiming its genocide, a ridiculous exaggeration. Read what Sandy put, it covers your point. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 29, 2023 8:10:57 GMT
The problem with answering other peoples posts is you lose the nuances. Orac was claiming its genocide, a ridiculous exaggeration. Read what Sandy put, it covers your point. I didn't need to I'd already understood it from you, I just think its a ridiculous over exaggeration. The idea that inviting immigrants into the UK and preventing a small number of Brits from being actively racist could be compared to genocide. Another over exaggeration from Sandy does nothing to strengthen your argument. His example of overwhelming numbers of Brits entering Scotland and wiping out or displacing the local population bears no resemblance to what we see in Britain, let alone genocide. In the last decade about 3.5 million migrants have made Britain their home. And while I'm against further immigration 3.5 out of 70 million is by no ones imagination overwhelming. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 29, 2023 8:40:10 GMT
Read what Sandy put, it covers your point. I didn't need to I'd already understood it from you, I just think its a ridiculous over exaggeration. As Dan notes, 'white British' have now become minority status in (what was) their own capital city and in several other cities. We could usefully change that label to 'white English', because England is really the place being hammered and having its populations displaced by this persistent policy (which they keep voting against btw). In any case - I have clarified this several times , but i'm happy to do this again from a different angle. I don't think any /all immigration is necessarily genocidal (ie motivated by a wish to remove a people), but i think what we are seeing presently and parts of the political position that underlie that policy, are. Specifically - when i talked about genocide, I highlighted a political position that makes one group in particular morally liable to continually hand out its territory to others. - ie they are inhuman if they pass their territory to their own children. This is a position you seem to hold. In my view this is a genocidal memetic / belief system. |
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